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RE: Benson on League Title Game
(01-05-2015 03:05 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Did anyone notice that in one of Benson's earlier responses he said Lousiana-Lafayette? Is that bad too?

I'm thinking this is a problem with the author leaving it out more than anything.

The main problem is that to interview the commissioner of the Sun Belt, you have to talk to Karl Benson.


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RE: Benson on League Title Game
He makes is sound like if a championship game can be played with less than 12 then you can pretty much close the door on going to 12. We will just stay at 11. The real decision is whether to keep NMSU and Idaho in the mix or go to 9.
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(01-05-2015 02:52 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 02:48 PM)epiccajun Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 02:39 PM)Beltfan Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 02:18 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 12:18 PM)swampbear Wrote:  I wish that it were funny but it's not. This is just beyond disrespectful by the Commissioner.

Why don't you folks just contact him and let him know that you don't like "Lafayette" used when referring to your school instead of whining when he does?

Could it be that he wouldn't give them the time of day?

Exactly.

He is pissed that our admin, coach and fan base has been public and vocal about wanting to move on.

The sad part is, with just a little bit of work, maybe say put in 40 hours of week of work, and the SBC would be on par with CUSA.

I don't see it happening as long as Krazy Karl is King!

How dare UL want out of his kingdom.

Together We Suck! .... and then go play our afternoon round of golf!

Doubt that y'all are the only conference members looking for the door . .. . . Now just where the hell is that door anyway?

Oh, no! The "Bobcees" are searching for higher ground already?
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RE: Benson on League Title Game
Quote:Q: Would the Sun Belt be in favor of staging a championship game if allowed to do so with less than 12 teams?

A: Absolutely. Absolutely, if given the opportunity to have a championship game without a 12th team. We're waiting to see how that plays out. But on the other hand and with other sports, we still need better geography for the other sports. We're out of balance with our other sports.

Benson wants better geography for other sports. So that tells me NMSU has zero chance of an all sports invite. Gives some cred to what I said last week.
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RE: Benson on League Title Game
(01-05-2015 03:35 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 02:52 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 02:48 PM)epiccajun Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 02:39 PM)Beltfan Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 02:18 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  Why don't you folks just contact him and let him know that you don't like "Lafayette" used when referring to your school instead of whining when he does?

Could it be that he wouldn't give them the time of day?

Exactly.

He is pissed that our admin, coach and fan base has been public and vocal about wanting to move on.

The sad part is, with just a little bit of work, maybe say put in 40 hours of week of work, and the SBC would be on par with CUSA.

I don't see it happening as long as Krazy Karl is King!

How dare UL want out of his kingdom.

Together We Suck! .... and then go play our afternoon round of golf!

Doubt that y'all are the only conference members looking for the door . .. . . Now just where the hell is that door anyway?

Oh, no! The "Bobcees" are searching for higher ground already?

"Higher Ground" . . . Stevie Wonder can't be wrong . . .
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RE: Benson on League Title Game
He said a decision on a championship game for less than 12 teams should be made in 90 days. I saw somewhere where the Big XII commish said 6 months.
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Wish there was more of a question or answer on TXST getting left out again (though I understood the 6-6 year). But by his statement of it's up to the bowls pretty confirmed what all TXST fans assumed; win conference, pray for an at large, or end up with only 4 eligable teams in conference and get in by default.

I'd like to here his thoughts on placing all teams with at least 7 wins before 6-6 teams like CUSA does.
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(01-05-2015 04:15 PM)slycat Wrote:  Wish there was more of a question or answer on TXST getting left out again (though I understood the 6-6 year). But by his statement of it's up to the bowls pretty confirmed what all TXST fans assumed; win conference, pray for an at large, or end up with only 4 eligable teams in conference and get in by default.

I'd like to here his thoughts on placing all teams with at least 7 wins before 6-6 teams like CUSA does.

Doubt you'll see that happen anytime soon. As other posters have already said .... It's the Sun Belt, a conference that's not in a position to dictate to the bowl committees, so we just leave it up to the bowls to pick whom they want. ..... Welcome to the conference with NO leverage.....
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Benson is just navigating his way to retirement. If the SBC folds the day after, he couldn't care less.
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(01-05-2015 03:35 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  Oh, no! The "Bobcees" are searching for higher ground already?

Bobcees? really? REALLY?

And you don't have to worry about us moving on, we aren't looking.

I can say that with relative certainty due to our AD. Looking to move elsewhere is like... work.

But it's no secret Texas State fans would like to be in a conference where we (and I mean this for just the Bobcats) are not basically required to win conference every year to have a legit chance at a bowl game.

In the Sun Belt, I think that is pretty much the case. Now, I'm sure if we go 9-3, with 2 conference losses, it will be tough to pick a (for example) 7-5 ULM team.. But I think you get my drift.

It's an inequity that doesn't sit well with our fans. I think USA fans would agree if they were in a conference that had all bowls at least 500 miles from them, and has no other teams from their state to build a rivalry with.

Doesn't help that Benson doesn't exactly inspire confidence that he will fix those problems (nor should he necessarily, as we are but one team in the conference, and he shouldn't bow to just one team).
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(01-05-2015 05:27 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Benson is just navigating his way to retirement. If the SBC folds the day after, he couldn't care less.

Benson accomplished everything that he wanted to do with Boise State, his Alma Mater. Now he wants a comfy retirement package in some place warm.

He already has a golfing date with our former AD.
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(01-05-2015 06:11 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 03:35 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  Oh, no! The "Bobcees" are searching for higher ground already?

Bobcees? really? REALLY?

And you don't have to worry about us moving on, we aren't looking.

I can say that with relative certainty due to our AD. Looking to move elsewhere is like... work.

But it's no secret Texas State fans would like to be in a conference where we (and I mean this for just the Bobcats) are not basically required to win conference every year to have a legit chance at a bowl game.

In the Sun Belt, I think that is pretty much the case. Now, I'm sure if we go 9-3, with 2 conference losses, it will be tough to pick a (for example) 7-5 ULM team.. But I think you get my drift.

It's an inequity that doesn't sit well with our fans. I think USA fans would agree if they were in a conference that had all bowls at least 500 miles from them, and has no other teams from their state to build a rivalry with.

Doesn't help that Benson doesn't exactly inspire confidence that he will fix those problems (nor should he necessarily, as we are but one team in the conference, and he shouldn't bow to just one team).

I really hope we get that 5th bowl somewhere in the west like Benson said he wanted. It just makes sense that we have a tie in in Little Rock or maybe some other city. I would think Salt Lake City, Reno Nevada or even Jackson Mississippi could be good locations for a new Bowl game.
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(01-05-2015 06:32 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 06:11 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 03:35 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  Oh, no! The "Bobcees" are searching for higher ground already?

Bobcees? really? REALLY?

And you don't have to worry about us moving on, we aren't looking.

I can say that with relative certainty due to our AD. Looking to move elsewhere is like... work.

But it's no secret Texas State fans would like to be in a conference where we (and I mean this for just the Bobcats) are not basically required to win conference every year to have a legit chance at a bowl game.

In the Sun Belt, I think that is pretty much the case. Now, I'm sure if we go 9-3, with 2 conference losses, it will be tough to pick a (for example) 7-5 ULM team.. But I think you get my drift.

It's an inequity that doesn't sit well with our fans. I think USA fans would agree if they were in a conference that had all bowls at least 500 miles from them, and has no other teams from their state to build a rivalry with.

Doesn't help that Benson doesn't exactly inspire confidence that he will fix those problems (nor should he necessarily, as we are but one team in the conference, and he shouldn't bow to just one team).

I really hope we get that 5th bowl somewhere in the west like Benson said he wanted. It just makes sense that we have a tie in in Little Rock or maybe some other city. I would think Salt Lake City, Reno Nevada or even Jackson Mississippi could be good locations for a new Bowl game.

Salt Lake City?? Reno, Nevada?? You got posters on this board complaining about the occasional trip to NM and Idaho, hell, you got posters that want to dump both because they're "too far outside the footprint." And you want SBC bowls in Salt Lake and Reno??? SMH . . . . .
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(01-05-2015 06:42 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 06:32 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 06:11 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 03:35 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  Oh, no! The "Bobcees" are searching for higher ground already?

Bobcees? really? REALLY?

And you don't have to worry about us moving on, we aren't looking.

I can say that with relative certainty due to our AD. Looking to move elsewhere is like... work.

But it's no secret Texas State fans would like to be in a conference where we (and I mean this for just the Bobcats) are not basically required to win conference every year to have a legit chance at a bowl game.

In the Sun Belt, I think that is pretty much the case. Now, I'm sure if we go 9-3, with 2 conference losses, it will be tough to pick a (for example) 7-5 ULM team.. But I think you get my drift.

It's an inequity that doesn't sit well with our fans. I think USA fans would agree if they were in a conference that had all bowls at least 500 miles from them, and has no other teams from their state to build a rivalry with.

Doesn't help that Benson doesn't exactly inspire confidence that he will fix those problems (nor should he necessarily, as we are but one team in the conference, and he shouldn't bow to just one team).

I really hope we get that 5th bowl somewhere in the west like Benson said he wanted. It just makes sense that we have a tie in in Little Rock or maybe some other city. I would think Salt Lake City, Reno Nevada or even Jackson Mississippi could be good locations for a new Bowl game.

Salt Lake City?? Reno, Nevada?? You got posters on this board complaining about the occasional trip to NM and Idaho, hell, you got posters that want to dump both because they're "too far outside the footprint." And you want SBC bowls in Salt Lake and Reno??? SMH . . . . .

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(01-05-2015 06:45 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 06:42 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 06:32 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 06:11 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 03:35 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  Oh, no! The "Bobcees" are searching for higher ground already?

Bobcees? really? REALLY?

And you don't have to worry about us moving on, we aren't looking.

I can say that with relative certainty due to our AD. Looking to move elsewhere is like... work.

But it's no secret Texas State fans would like to be in a conference where we (and I mean this for just the Bobcats) are not basically required to win conference every year to have a legit chance at a bowl game.

In the Sun Belt, I think that is pretty much the case. Now, I'm sure if we go 9-3, with 2 conference losses, it will be tough to pick a (for example) 7-5 ULM team.. But I think you get my drift.

It's an inequity that doesn't sit well with our fans. I think USA fans would agree if they were in a conference that had all bowls at least 500 miles from them, and has no other teams from their state to build a rivalry with.

Doesn't help that Benson doesn't exactly inspire confidence that he will fix those problems (nor should he necessarily, as we are but one team in the conference, and he shouldn't bow to just one team).

I really hope we get that 5th bowl somewhere in the west like Benson said he wanted. It just makes sense that we have a tie in in Little Rock or maybe some other city. I would think Salt Lake City, Reno Nevada or even Jackson Mississippi could be good locations for a new Bowl game.

Salt Lake City?? Reno, Nevada?? You got posters on this board complaining about the occasional trip to NM and Idaho, hell, you got posters that want to dump both because they're "too far outside the footprint." And you want SBC bowls in Salt Lake and Reno??? SMH . . . . .

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(01-05-2015 06:32 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  I really hope we get that 5th bowl somewhere in the west like Benson said he wanted. It just makes sense that we have a tie in in Little Rock or maybe some other city. I would think Salt Lake City, Reno Nevada or even Jackson Mississippi could be good locations for a new Bowl game.

Here's what sucks (for us at least): If we get a bowl in Little Rock, who would become their version of the Cajuns? It'd be stAte. Then, that means Go Daddy or Camellia opens up... But it doesn't help Texas State.

The only way to help Texas State in this instance is to do one of the following:
- Institute a rule where teams ranked higher (either in conference or by overall rankings) gets in before "lesser" (SUPER poor choice of words, but you get my drift) teams.
- Put a bowl in Texas.

The problem with those options is as follows:
- We as a conference don't have the clout to dictate that to the bowls.
- A bowl in Texas only really helps Texas State (possibly the Cajuns/ULM/stAte, but to a FAR lesser degree). It still leaves App State in a similar situation to us, and doesn't necessarily help the conference overall.

The BEST POSSIBLE scenario for Texas State would be for the Sun Belt to get another Texas school in the conference (either "steal one from CUSA, which is HIGHLY unlikely, UTA starts up their football team, which is not apparently on the table for the next 5 or so years AT LEAST, or invite one up from FCS, where none are really good options). Then, get a Texas bowl.

That way, the bowl would feasibly help at least 2 schools plus the Cajuns/ULM/stAte, would get us to 12 teams, and would give the championship game that many seem to covet.

But that opens up a whole other set of problems: conferences. Another Texas school means one of the current "west" schools would have to go east.

The conference (in it's current membership) is not a good fit for a Texas team, sadly. It's not a knock on the schools themselves that are in the conference, it's just the location of them in relation to us.
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(01-05-2015 06:11 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 03:35 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  Oh, no! The "Bobcees" are searching for higher ground already?

Bobcees? really? REALLY?

And you don't have to worry about us moving on, we aren't looking.

I can say that with relative certainty due to our AD. Looking to move elsewhere is like... work.

But it's no secret Texas State fans would like to be in a conference where we (and I mean this for just the Bobcats) are not basically required to win conference every year to have a legit chance at a bowl game.

In the Sun Belt, I think that is pretty much the case. Now, I'm sure if we go 9-3, with 2 conference losses, it will be tough to pick a (for example) 7-5 ULM team.. But I think you get my drift.

It's an inequity that doesn't sit well with our fans. I think USA fans would agree if they were in a conference that had all bowls at least 500 miles from them, and has no other teams from their state to build a rivalry with.

Doesn't help that Benson doesn't exactly inspire confidence that he will fix those problems (nor should he necessarily, as we are but one team in the conference, and he shouldn't bow to just one team).

How many bowl tie-ins did the SBC have, and where were they located, when Texas State chose to join the conference?
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(01-06-2015 09:16 AM)ASUMountaineer Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 06:11 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 03:35 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  Oh, no! The "Bobcees" are searching for higher ground already?

Bobcees? really? REALLY?

And you don't have to worry about us moving on, we aren't looking.

I can say that with relative certainty due to our AD. Looking to move elsewhere is like... work.

But it's no secret Texas State fans would like to be in a conference where we (and I mean this for just the Bobcats) are not basically required to win conference every year to have a legit chance at a bowl game.

In the Sun Belt, I think that is pretty much the case. Now, I'm sure if we go 9-3, with 2 conference losses, it will be tough to pick a (for example) 7-5 ULM team.. But I think you get my drift.

It's an inequity that doesn't sit well with our fans. I think USA fans would agree if they were in a conference that had all bowls at least 500 miles from them, and has no other teams from their state to build a rivalry with.

Doesn't help that Benson doesn't exactly inspire confidence that he will fix those problems (nor should he necessarily, as we are but one team in the conference, and he shouldn't bow to just one team).

How many bowl tie-ins did the SBC have, and where were they located, when Texas State chose to join the conference?

I think I see where this is going...
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(01-06-2015 09:31 AM)APPrising Wrote:  
(01-06-2015 09:16 AM)ASUMountaineer Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 06:11 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 03:35 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  Oh, no! The "Bobcees" are searching for higher ground already?

Bobcees? really? REALLY?

And you don't have to worry about us moving on, we aren't looking.

I can say that with relative certainty due to our AD. Looking to move elsewhere is like... work.

But it's no secret Texas State fans would like to be in a conference where we (and I mean this for just the Bobcats) are not basically required to win conference every year to have a legit chance at a bowl game.

In the Sun Belt, I think that is pretty much the case. Now, I'm sure if we go 9-3, with 2 conference losses, it will be tough to pick a (for example) 7-5 ULM team.. But I think you get my drift.

It's an inequity that doesn't sit well with our fans. I think USA fans would agree if they were in a conference that had all bowls at least 500 miles from them, and has no other teams from their state to build a rivalry with.

Doesn't help that Benson doesn't exactly inspire confidence that he will fix those problems (nor should he necessarily, as we are but one team in the conference, and he shouldn't bow to just one team).

How many bowl tie-ins did the SBC have, and where were they located, when Texas State chose to join the conference?

I think I see where this is going...

It is a legitimate question...
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(01-05-2015 08:43 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 06:32 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  I really hope we get that 5th bowl somewhere in the west like Benson said he wanted. It just makes sense that we have a tie in in Little Rock or maybe some other city. I would think Salt Lake City, Reno Nevada or even Jackson Mississippi could be good locations for a new Bowl game.

Here's what sucks (for us at least): If we get a bowl in Little Rock, who would become their version of the Cajuns? It'd be stAte. Then, that means Go Daddy or Camellia opens up... But it doesn't help Texas State.

The only way to help Texas State in this instance is to do one of the following:
- Institute a rule where teams ranked higher (either in conference or by overall rankings) gets in before "lesser" (SUPER poor choice of words, but you get my drift) teams.
- Put a bowl in Texas.

The problem with those options is as follows:
- We as a conference don't have the clout to dictate that to the bowls.
- A bowl in Texas only really helps Texas State (possibly the Cajuns/ULM/stAte, but to a FAR lesser degree). It still leaves App State in a similar situation to us, and doesn't necessarily help the conference overall.

The BEST POSSIBLE scenario for Texas State would be for the Sun Belt to get another Texas school in the conference (either "steal one from CUSA, which is HIGHLY unlikely, UTA starts up their football team, which is not apparently on the table for the next 5 or so years AT LEAST, or invite one up from FCS, where none are really good options). Then, get a Texas bowl.

That way, the bowl would feasibly help at least 2 schools plus the Cajuns/ULM/stAte, would get us to 12 teams, and would give the championship game that many seem to covet.

But that opens up a whole other set of problems: conferences. Another Texas school means one of the current "west" schools would have to go east.

The conference (in it's current membership) is not a good fit for a Texas team, sadly. It's not a knock on the schools themselves that are in the conference, it's just the location of them in relation to us.

Think it'd be cool to have a bowl in Austin. However, I could see why Austin may not want us. I'd definitely go to a bowl in Austin if my team were there, though.
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