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Tribe Hoops heading into conference games
I think we've seen a lot of different things than we expected when we started back in October including:
- lack of Schlotman and Whitman
- arrival of Dixon
- presence of Malinowski
- Omar's funk

I'd like to see Schlotman play point guard as a starter sooner rather than later. Marcus expends way too much energy having to bring it up the court every time. Plus I think we're better defensively with the lineup below.

G- Schlotman
G- Thornton
G - Dixon
F - Tarpey
C - Sheldon

This line up is pretty much the same size as with Omar in the starting line up. Let's bring him off the bench and see if it helps with his confidence. Bring Malinowski in off the bench for Dixon or Schlotman and your rotation is seven guys with Whitman getting some time as the eighth man.

If Omar gets back into starting form then maybe bring Dixon in off the bench for a spark, but still get him 30 minutes of PT.

If we win the Richmond game and another one out of the losses we're in a very different place, but we didn't and we aren't.

We'll know where we stand on Saturday.
12-31-2014 06:21 PM
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RE: Tribe Hoops heading into conference games
As much as I never thought that I'd be OK bringing Omar off the bench when the season started, it seems pretty reasonable now. It could be just the spark he needs to get back into form. Plus the above lineup would be the best defense in the conference
12-31-2014 08:06 PM
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RE: Tribe Hoops heading into conference games
(12-31-2014 08:06 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  As much as I never thought that I'd be OK bringing Omar off the bench when the season started, it seems pretty reasonable now. It could be just the spark he needs to get back into form. Plus the above lineup would be the best defense in the conference

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Omar has been a major disappointment this year. He is the only player on the team who is playing worse than he did last year. [Dixon is twice as good as he was last year; Prewett is one/half as good as he was last year]. I do not think he should remain a starter unless, and until he is more effective on the court.

I would like to see Malinowski in the starting lineup. Greg shows real promise and the more playing time he gets, the better he will be when the CAA Tournament rolls around. Greg is a far better shooter than Omar, and, along with Dixon, could take some of the focus off of Thornton.

Before the season began, I was figuring Schlottman would be a starter; but thus far, I have not been impressed with his performance when on the floor. I gave up watching the UNC game at halftime I was so embarrassed and disgusted, so I did not see the second half of the game and I understand from the comments of others that Mike played extremely well during that period. I hope Mike can continue that level of play in the future .
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RE: Tribe Hoops heading into conference games
Omar's shooting 42% from the field, 27% from 3, 55% FT. Malinowski is shooting 39/36/73. I don't think you can say that Greg is a far better shooter, especially considering Omar's 44/37/76 line from last year. Add in Malinowski's turnover numbers and Omar's rebounding and aggressiveness off the dribble and the minute distribution is probably about right. That said, it might make sense to bring Omar in off the bench as a scoring option and still keep his minutes around 25-30, with Schlotman taking over starting PG duties. I think the team is having difficulty with the starting lineup that we have now. Shaver tends to start his best players regardless of anything and neither Schlotman nor Malinowski has played well enough to get starters minutes. If our substitution patterns were well established, though, it would be easy to keep everyone's minutes roughly the same and shake up the lineup enough to try to find a mix that works. Dixon has played well enough to be the second option on offense, but if we kept at least 2 of Marcus, Daniel, and Omar on the court in the first half, I think we'd still have enough offense and keep all three players rested more for whatever lineups are needed in the second half as the game dictates.
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RE: Tribe Hoops heading into conference games
Marcus is going to play 38+ minutes in any close game, regardless of the substitution patterns.

And Omar , I believe, will continue starting as I look for his 3-point and foul shooting to
get back to where it was last season. We've got to remember he played with a sore ankle
right on up to the exam break and has only recently been 100% physically.

Schlotman, in the opinion of many close to the program, has to play consistently more minutes to perform at his best...and he, too, has been hampered much of the season by a recurring ankle problem. Many were heartened to see him play very well against UNC...
this kid can penetrate and has a three point shot; it's just not apparent in short appearances on the court.

Dixon is a blossoming force on the court. If he can continue his improving scoring capabilities it will take some of the double-team pressure off Marcus.

Tarpey has to penetrate more consistently and get to where he's contributing 8-10 points
a game. These games where he scores four points really hurt us. He's a rebounding fiend,
has wonderful anticipation on the court, and plays at high energy..but we need points, too.
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To me Terry has been the most frustrating player this season. He does so many things right and is a real grinder on the court but we can't continue to play a guy who is such a black hole on offense. We already are gonna struggle on the offensive end because its certainly not Sean's strength and we can't rely on only three guys (Marcus, Omar, and Daniel) to score all our points. Especially with Omar slumping.
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RE: Tribe Hoops heading into conference games
(01-01-2015 12:59 AM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  Omar's shooting 42% from the field, 27% from 3, 55% FT. Malinowski is shooting 39/36/73. I don't think you can say that Greg is a far better shooter, especially considering Omar's 44/37/76 line from last year. Add in Malinowski's turnover numbers and Omar's rebounding and aggressiveness off the dribble and the minute distribution is probably about right. That said, it might make sense to bring Omar in off the bench as a scoring option and still keep his minutes around 25-30, with Schlotman taking over starting PG duties. I think the team is having difficulty with the starting lineup that we have now. Shaver tends to start his best players regardless of anything and neither Schlotman nor Malinowski has played well enough to get starters minutes. If our substitution patterns were well established, though, it would be easy to keep everyone's minutes roughly the same and shake up the lineup enough to try to find a mix that works. Dixon has played well enough to be the second option on offense, but if we kept at least 2 of Marcus, Daniel, and Omar on the court in the first half, I think we'd still have enough offense and keep all three players rested more for whatever lineups are needed in the second half as the game dictates.

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Greg is a far better shooter than Omar THIS YEAR, which is more germane to our discussion than how good Omar was LAST YEAR. No "good shooter" shoots 55% from the free throw line, PERIOD, nobody, even with a "sore ankle". Since he can't make three-pointers anymore, it is great that Omar has taken to driving on the basket and made a few lay-ups, but part of that activity is to draw fouls so that you have the opportunity to shoot FREE throws and score extra points. Our walk-ons are better free throw shooters than Omar.
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RE: Tribe Hoops heading into conference games
Omar shot 76% from the foul line last season and around 80% all through four years of high school basketball.

Obviously he's been doing something wrong mechanically in his foul shot...he's too good not to fix it and return to his normal excellence on the foul line.
01-02-2015 07:54 AM
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RE: Tribe Hoops heading into conference games
(01-01-2015 11:00 PM)62Indian Wrote:  
(01-01-2015 12:59 AM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  Omar's shooting 42% from the field, 27% from 3, 55% FT. Malinowski is shooting 39/36/73. I don't think you can say that Greg is a far better shooter, especially considering Omar's 44/37/76 line from last year. Add in Malinowski's turnover numbers and Omar's rebounding and aggressiveness off the dribble and the minute distribution is probably about right.

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Greg is a far better shooter than Omar THIS YEAR, which is more germane to our discussion than how good Omar was LAST YEAR.

It's actually not. Going forward, you'd expect regression to the mean, and in Omar's case his career numbers suggest that his numbers are likely to improve significantly. Also, Malinowski's percentages are not significantly better than Omar's this year. This is a long way of saying we have good reason to think that Omar's play over the rest of the year will be much better than it has been to this point without even taking the reason he's been down (injury) into consideration. As is the case with most freshmen halfway through their first year, we don't have a good basis for projecting Malinowski at all.
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RE: Tribe Hoops heading into conference games
(01-02-2015 07:54 AM)BigTribe Wrote:  Omar shot 76% from the foul line last season and around 80% all through four years of high school basketball.

Obviously he's been doing something wrong mechanically in his foul shot...he's too good not to fix it and return to his normal excellence on the foul line.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Please tell me again how good he was LAST SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps Omar was such a good shooter LAST YEAR because he was NOT a starter and always came into a game off the bench??

BTW, no one wants Omar to regain his mojo more than I do - I KNOW how good he was last year!
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Man, Omar was suprisingly good last year. Last year, he was so good. Do any of you recall what a great all-around player Omar was during the 2013-2014 season?
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Some players are better off of the bench than others. Omar might just be that kind of player. That does not minimize his talent whatsoever.

This could be the case, or he is just pressing to much to produce as a starter.

I like the kid a lot. I hope he figures it out.
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Looks like he figured it out today. Good for him and the Tribe!
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You could see Omar's eyes light up every time he was covered by Barry.

That Tarpey block/steal/layup is a career highlight for anyone, but only one of 3-4 great plays he had tonight. Outstanding defensive effort by our guys.
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(01-03-2015 05:05 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  You could see Omar's eyes light up every time he was covered by Barry.

That Tarpey block/steal/layup is a career highlight for anyone, but only one of 3-4 great plays he had tonight. Outstanding defensive effort by our guys.

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That Tarpey play ought to make somebodies TV Highlights - it was amazing, and something I do not think anyone has ever seen before!
The game was televised so lets hope somebody [Tribe Athletics] picks up on that play as "The Play of The Week"!
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