Wow I just noticed how terrible of a match up this game is.

#10 10-3 Arizona vs #20 10-2 Boise State

It's a pitty that Georgia Tech could not take out FSU.

(12-18-2014 11:29 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  Wow I just noticed how terrible of a match up this game is.

#10 10-3 Arizona vs #20 10-2 Boise State

It's a pitty that Georgia Tech could not take out FSU.

It's a pity Arizona couldn't take out Oregon...

I hope that one's somehow sarcastic, and I just missed it... AZ barely beat a middling MWC team (Nevada)... Should Arizona win? Yes. Should it be a good game? Absolutely.

(12-18-2014 11:46 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(12-18-2014 11:29 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  Wow I just noticed how terrible of a match up this game is.

#10 10-3 Arizona vs #20 10-2 Boise State

It's a pitty that Georgia Tech could not take out FSU.

It's a pity Arizona couldn't take out Oregon...

Well, they were only about 40 points short.

Arizona would be in the Fiesta Bowl even if they had won the Pac-12 title game, anyway. Remember, the Rose is not available this year.

It's not that either team is bad because both have had amazing seasons.

It's just odd to consider this a major bowl game.

(12-19-2014 11:42 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  It's not that either team is bad because both have had amazing seasons.

It's just odd to consider this a major bowl game.

Yeah there are so many bowls pitting ranked teams, I'd never call it a major game.

The playoffs make this game an afterthought .
That would probably still be true even if it had a match up of higher ranked teams.

I see your SE bias is showing.


This is a great bowl game - one of the top matchups this year.

(12-19-2014 11:49 AM)MJG Wrote:  The playoffs make this game an afterthought .
That would probably still be true even if it had a match up of higher ranked teams.

I don't know....

Had this been like 12-0 Boise State vs 11-2 USC this would have been an exciting match up.

For me, Arizona still has a MWC sort of feel to it and they are playing a small school in the MWC.

That's what just makes this game seem undesirable to me.

I even think I would rather watch Marshall vs NIU tbh.

(12-19-2014 11:56 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 11:49 AM)MJG Wrote:  The playoffs make this game an afterthought .
That would probably still be true even if it had a match up of higher ranked teams.

I don't know....

Had this been like 12-0 Boise State vs 11-2 USC this would have been an exciting match up.

For me, Arizona still has a MWC sort of feel to it and they are playing a small school in the MWC.

That's what just makes this game seem undesirable to me.

I even think I would rather watch Marshall vs NIU tbh.

LOL, how old are you?

If you are in your 60s or 70s, then maybe you watched Arizona compete in the WAC and maybe you might remember them having wild shootouts with BYU back in the day. But if you're any younger than that, Arizona has been in the Pac-10/12 your entire adult life, and if you're 36 or younger, they've been in the Pac-10/12 since before you were born.

(12-19-2014 12:06 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 11:56 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 11:49 AM)MJG Wrote:  The playoffs make this game an afterthought .
That would probably still be true even if it had a match up of higher ranked teams.

I don't know....

Had this been like 12-0 Boise State vs 11-2 USC this would have been an exciting match up.

For me, Arizona still has a MWC sort of feel to it and they are playing a small school in the MWC.

That's what just makes this game seem undesirable to me.

I even think I would rather watch Marshall vs NIU tbh.

LOL, how old are you?

If you are in your 60s or 70s, then maybe you watched Arizona compete in the WAC and maybe you might remember them having wild shootouts with BYU back in the day. But if you're any younger than that, Arizona has been in the Pac-10/12 your entire adult life, and if you're 36 or younger, they've been in the Pac-10/12 since before you were born.

Have you got something against us geezers?

(12-19-2014 11:56 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 11:49 AM)MJG Wrote:  The playoffs make this game an afterthought .
That would probably still be true even if it had a match up of higher ranked teams.

I don't know....

Had this been like 12-0 Boise State vs 11-2 USC this would have been an exciting match up.

For me, Arizona still has a MWC sort of feel to it and they are playing a small school in the MWC.

That's what just makes this game seem undesirable to me.

I even think I would rather watch Marshall vs NIU tbh.

Arizona has been in the Pacific 10/12 for 35 years...


If anything, bowl games with Mississippi teams seem bush-league

(12-19-2014 12:17 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Arizona has been in the Pacific 10/12 for 35 years...


If anything, bowl games with Mississippi teams seem bush-league

No, the top ten ranked Mississippi teams are playing in relevant bowls against quality opponents, which is hardly bush league. Your biases are very telling. By the way, who are the mighty Illini playing?

(12-19-2014 12:53 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 12:17 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Arizona has been in the Pacific 10/12 for 35 years...


If anything, bowl games with Mississippi teams seem bush-league

No, the top ten ranked Mississippi teams are playing in relevant bowls against quality opponents, which is hardly bush league. Your biases are very telling. By the way, who are the mighty Illini playing?

LOL - I actually think both Mississippi school games will be good, but if Arizona is bush league because they don't have a long history of top level football, so are Ole Miss and MSU :)


Illinois is playing Karl Malone U in the ultra-prestigious Zaxby's Ebola-free Heart of Dallas Bowl

(12-19-2014 12:17 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 11:56 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 11:49 AM)MJG Wrote:  The playoffs make this game an afterthought .
That would probably still be true even if it had a match up of higher ranked teams.

I don't know....

Had this been like 12-0 Boise State vs 11-2 USC this would have been an exciting match up.

For me, Arizona still has a MWC sort of feel to it and they are playing a small school in the MWC.

That's what just makes this game seem undesirable to me.

I even think I would rather watch Marshall vs NIU tbh.

Arizona has been in the Pacific 10/12 for 35 years...


If anything, bowl games with Mississippi teams seem bush-league

I'm sorry but both Mississippi teams have much better talent than Arizona does. Arizona could beat them because Rich Rod is a great coach but there is nothing bush-league about them.

(12-19-2014 06:02 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 12:17 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 11:56 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 11:49 AM)MJG Wrote:  The playoffs make this game an afterthought .
That would probably still be true even if it had a match up of higher ranked teams.

I don't know....

Had this been like 12-0 Boise State vs 11-2 USC this would have been an exciting match up.

For me, Arizona still has a MWC sort of feel to it and they are playing a small school in the MWC.

That's what just makes this game seem undesirable to me.

I even think I would rather watch Marshall vs NIU tbh.

Arizona has been in the Pacific 10/12 for 35 years...


If anything, bowl games with Mississippi teams seem bush-league

I'm sorry but both Mississippi teams have much better talent than Arizona does. Arizona could beat them because Rich Rod is a great coach but there is nothing bush-league about them.

Only because you are familiar with them.

(12-19-2014 12:03 AM)_sturt_ Wrote:  I hope that one's somehow sarcastic, and I just missed it... AZ barely beat a middling MWC team (Nevada)... Should Arizona win? Yes. Should it be a good game? Absolutely.

Plus, Arizona barely beat UTSA.

(12-19-2014 12:06 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 11:56 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 11:49 AM)MJG Wrote:  The playoffs make this game an afterthought .
That would probably still be true even if it had a match up of higher ranked teams.

I don't know....

Had this been like 12-0 Boise State vs 11-2 USC this would have been an exciting match up.

For me, Arizona still has a MWC sort of feel to it and they are playing a small school in the MWC.

That's what just makes this game seem undesirable to me.

I even think I would rather watch Marshall vs NIU tbh.

LOL, how old are you?

If you are in your 60s or 70s, then maybe you watched Arizona compete in the WAC and maybe you might remember them having wild shootouts with BYU back in the day. But if you're any younger than that, Arizona has been in the Pac-10/12 your entire adult life, and if you're 36 or younger, they've been in the Pac-10/12 since before you were born.

I think the perspective problem lies in that Arizona hasn't really ever done anything in the PAC 10/12 of note. No Rose Bowls.

(12-19-2014 06:34 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 12:03 AM)_sturt_ Wrote:  I hope that one's somehow sarcastic, and I just missed it... AZ barely beat a middling MWC team (Nevada)... Should Arizona win? Yes. Should it be a good game? Absolutely.

Plus, Arizona barely beat UTSA.

(12-19-2014 12:06 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 11:56 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 11:49 AM)MJG Wrote:  The playoffs make this game an afterthought .
That would probably still be true even if it had a match up of higher ranked teams.

I don't know....

Had this been like 12-0 Boise State vs 11-2 USC this would have been an exciting match up.

For me, Arizona still has a MWC sort of feel to it and they are playing a small school in the MWC.

That's what just makes this game seem undesirable to me.

I even think I would rather watch Marshall vs NIU tbh.

LOL, how old are you?

If you are in your 60s or 70s, then maybe you watched Arizona compete in the WAC and maybe you might remember them having wild shootouts with BYU back in the day. But if you're any younger than that, Arizona has been in the Pac-10/12 your entire adult life, and if you're 36 or younger, they've been in the Pac-10/12 since before you were born.

I think the perspective problem lies in that Arizona hasn't really ever done anything in the PAC 10/12 of note. No Rose Bowls.

... which makes the Fiesta Bowl no different from the Mississippi State v. Georgia Tech game in the Orange Bowl.

(12-19-2014 07:45 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 06:34 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 12:03 AM)_sturt_ Wrote:  I hope that one's somehow sarcastic, and I just missed it... AZ barely beat a middling MWC team (Nevada)... Should Arizona win? Yes. Should it be a good game? Absolutely.

Plus, Arizona barely beat UTSA.

(12-19-2014 12:06 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 11:56 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(12-19-2014 11:49 AM)MJG Wrote:  The playoffs make this game an afterthought .
That would probably still be true even if it had a match up of higher ranked teams.

I don't know....

Had this been like 12-0 Boise State vs 11-2 USC this would have been an exciting match up.

For me, Arizona still has a MWC sort of feel to it and they are playing a small school in the MWC.

That's what just makes this game seem undesirable to me.

I even think I would rather watch Marshall vs NIU tbh.

LOL, how old are you?

If you are in your 60s or 70s, then maybe you watched Arizona compete in the WAC and maybe you might remember them having wild shootouts with BYU back in the day. But if you're any younger than that, Arizona has been in the Pac-10/12 your entire adult life, and if you're 36 or younger, they've been in the Pac-10/12 since before you were born.

I think the perspective problem lies in that Arizona hasn't really ever done anything in the PAC 10/12 of note. No Rose Bowls.

... which makes the Fiesta Bowl no different from the Mississippi State v. Georgia Tech game in the Orange Bowl.

To be fair, GT was in the Orange Bowl a few years back.

But your point stands.

(12-19-2014 11:42 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  It's not that either team is bad because both have had amazing seasons.

It's just odd to consider this a major bowl game.

Just look at the orange bowl every other year. Thats the one "odd" one. The Grand total of $5.25 you can get a seat to see Miss St vs G Tech

The fact the Orange bowl is a major bowl is laughable.

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