247Sports 2 star rated place kicker Michael Rubino has signed a grant-in-aid agreement to enroll at Appalachian State University in January. Rubino is the nation’s No. 8-ranked kicker in the class of 2015 by 247Sports. He chose Appalachian over Penn State and East Carolina.




http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArticl...=209771850

(11-19-2014 02:05 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  247Sports 2 star rated place kicker Michael Rubino has signed a grant-in-aid agreement to enroll at Appalachian State University in January. Rubino is the nation’s No. 8-ranked kicker in the class of 2015 by 247Sports. He chose Appalachian over Penn State and East Carolina.




http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArticl...=209771850

Can we sneak him in this weekend?

I hope the kid does great but kickers are strange birds and often are unpredictable at best. That said, the bar hasn't been set too high this year and that is not a shot at Critcher who is a punter trying to do double duty. It will also help Bentlee to not have to practice place kicks and he can concentrate his efforts on punting which has suffered this year because of it.

The thing I hate so much about recruiting... I went to Rivals to look them up (dunno why, it's my default lookup)... They don't even have the kid on their list!

Now, I could understand like 247 having him at 8, then Rivals having him like at 15 or something (opinions may vary)... But to not even have him on the list?

Sheesh.

Good pick up for you guys.

Yes, kickers can be hard to project. It hard to figure how they'll do from week to week, let alone at a higher level two years from now.
But that maybe applies to a lot of prospects -- who, after all, are high school kids turning into college kids. I'd hate to have my livelihood depend on how they perform.
That said, good recruit. And maybe it's this board, but I've started becoming something of a fan of Appy.

Yeah, signing a Kicker doesn't necessarily make it a sure complete success. A few years ago, we had a Lou Groza finalist play for us. His first year here, he had a max field goal distance of about 35 yards. Literally didn't have a leg to get get it past that point. A couple years later, he was consistently good from 50 and in, and made something like 16 straight field goals.

Just because you're highly rated doesn't mean you finish that way. Kickers are head cases. You lose confidence as a kicker, you can easily fall apart.

to me, the thing that carries the most weight is who is our competition for the recruit. In this case we beat out Penn State and East Carolina, that's pretty strong, if Penn State wanted him, that tells me he is pretty good.

The problem with kickers is so much of the job is handling the pressure and they really don't get exposed to kicking in front of 10's of thousands of people and on national tv. Idaho's kicker/punter is the one who hit a 67 harder in HS and he has struggled kicking, hitting about 60% of his kicks which would probably be lower but we go for it on 4th instead of letting him try a hard kick. Hopefully he works out, there's not very many more frustrating things than to see missed field goals and xp's.

(11-19-2014 12:26 PM)moehler Wrote:  to me, the thing that carries the most weight is who is our competition for the recruit. In this case we beat out Penn State and East Carolina, that's pretty strong, if Penn State wanted him, that tells me he is pretty good.

Exactly. I don't put much into star ratings. I want to know who else is recruiting the guy. But even that doesn't tell the story sometimes. The two freshmen making the biggest impact on defense this year had zero FBS offers and only received 2 stars after committing to us. Arguably the greatest QB in FCS history, Armanti Edwards, had zero stars, only two scholarship offers (App & The Citadel) and a handful of offers to walk on, Clemson being one. It is an inexact science.

I know about one of the kids your talking about, the linebacker Boggs, I speculate that playing at a small high school hurt him, still how can they miss a kid 6'3 240 who can really run, and has a great feel for the game? The kids going to be a 1st team all conference player. Sometimes you just get lucky in recruiting.

Does he have a brother?

(11-19-2014 12:41 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:26 PM)moehler Wrote:  to me, the thing that carries the most weight is who is our competition for the recruit. In this case we beat out Penn State and East Carolina, that's pretty strong, if Penn State wanted him, that tells me he is pretty good.

Exactly. I don't put much into star ratings. I want to know who else is recruiting the guy. But even that doesn't tell the story sometimes. The two freshmen making the biggest impact on defense this year had zero FBS offers and only received 2 stars after committing to us. Arguably the greatest QB in FCS history, Armanti Edwards, had zero stars, only two scholarship offers (App & The Citadel) and a handful of offers to walk on, Clemson being one. It is an inexact science.

Not sure where you get that Edwards had only two offers. He was committed to GS and Sewak until Sewak was let to. VanGorder had no interest in him and he wound up at App St.

(11-19-2014 02:57 PM)str8shooter Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:41 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:26 PM)moehler Wrote:  to me, the thing that carries the most weight is who is our competition for the recruit. In this case we beat out Penn State and East Carolina, that's pretty strong, if Penn State wanted him, that tells me he is pretty good.

Exactly. I don't put much into star ratings. I want to know who else is recruiting the guy. But even that doesn't tell the story sometimes. The two freshmen making the biggest impact on defense this year had zero FBS offers and only received 2 stars after committing to us. Arguably the greatest QB in FCS history, Armanti Edwards, had zero stars, only two scholarship offers (App & The Citadel) and a handful of offers to walk on, Clemson being one. It is an inexact science.

Not sure where you get that Edwards had only two offers. He was committed to GS and Sewak until Sewak was let to. VanGorder had no interest in him and he wound up at App St.

That is a frequent myth spoken in ya'lls knat lover circles. You guys hated VanGorder so much you even pinned losing Edwards on him. Edwards was actually heading to play WR at NMSU of all places until App showed up and offered him the chance to play QB. He told many people at App he received next to no interest from Ga Southern throughout his recruiting process.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/re...ards-36897

“Armanti was a nice high school quarterback, but I’m not sure any of us realized he would be as good as he is,” said Shell Dula, Greenwood High’s coach.

Interested in playing quarterback for a major-college program, Edwards received his first recruiting letter from Harvard. He was not interested and promptly threw it away. Only Appalachian State, the Citadel and Elon offered him a scholarship at quarterback, according to his mother.

At South Carolina, Coach Steve Spurrier, one of the country’s pre-eminent quarterback gurus, told Edwards and other recruits that none of them would be offered scholarships at the position, Anderson said. That news from Spurrier, who declined an interview request for this article, crushed Edwards.

Clemson Coach Tommy Bowden did not offer him a scholarship because there were bigger, faster and stronger quarterbacks.

“I’d take him in a heartbeat now,” Bowden said in a telephone interview. “I just made a mistake earlier.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/sports...d=all&_r=0

His profile on Scout lists offers from: NMSU, Furman, and App State
http://appalachianstate.scout.com/a.z?s=...id=1789564

(11-19-2014 12:26 PM)moehler Wrote:  to me, the thing that carries the most weight is who is our competition for the recruit. In this case we beat out Penn State and East Carolina, that's pretty strong, if Penn State wanted him, that tells me he is pretty good.

Or one of the coaches thought he was cute?

(11-19-2014 03:50 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 02:57 PM)str8shooter Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:41 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:26 PM)moehler Wrote:  to me, the thing that carries the most weight is who is our competition for the recruit. In this case we beat out Penn State and East Carolina, that's pretty strong, if Penn State wanted him, that tells me he is pretty good.

Exactly. I don't put much into star ratings. I want to know who else is recruiting the guy. But even that doesn't tell the story sometimes. The two freshmen making the biggest impact on defense this year had zero FBS offers and only received 2 stars after committing to us. Arguably the greatest QB in FCS history, Armanti Edwards, had zero stars, only two scholarship offers (App & The Citadel) and a handful of offers to walk on, Clemson being one. It is an inexact science.

Not sure where you get that Edwards had only two offers. He was committed to GS and Sewak until Sewak was let to. VanGorder had no interest in him and he wound up at App St.

That is a frequent myth spoken in ya'lls knat lover circles. You guys hated VanGorder so much you even pinned losing Edwards on him. Edwards was actually heading to play WR at NMSU of all places until App showed up and offered him the chance to play QB. He told many people at App he received next to no interest from Ga Southern throughout his recruiting process.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/re...ards-36897

“Armanti was a nice high school quarterback, but I’m not sure any of us realized he would be as good as he is,” said Shell Dula, Greenwood High’s coach.

Interested in playing quarterback for a major-college program, Edwards received his first recruiting letter from Harvard. He was not interested and promptly threw it away. Only Appalachian State, the Citadel and Elon offered him a scholarship at quarterback, according to his mother.

At South Carolina, Coach Steve Spurrier, one of the country’s pre-eminent quarterback gurus, told Edwards and other recruits that none of them would be offered scholarships at the position, Anderson said. That news from Spurrier, who declined an interview request for this article, crushed Edwards.

Clemson Coach Tommy Bowden did not offer him a scholarship because there were bigger, faster and stronger quarterbacks.

“I’d take him in a heartbeat now,” Bowden said in a telephone interview. “I just made a mistake earlier.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/sports...d=all&_r=0

His profile on Scout lists offers from: NMSU, Furman, and App State
http://appalachianstate.scout.com/a.z?s=...id=1789564

Blah.... Mountaineer propaganda! Edwards was going to be an Eagle... This is a fact. The rest, including the edited version from his mother's statements are fiction.

(11-19-2014 12:41 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:26 PM)moehler Wrote:  to me, the thing that carries the most weight is who is our competition for the recruit. In this case we beat out Penn State and East Carolina, that's pretty strong, if Penn State wanted him, that tells me he is pretty good.

Exactly. I don't put much into star ratings. I want to know who else is recruiting the guy. But even that doesn't tell the story sometimes. The two freshmen making the biggest impact on defense this year had zero FBS offers and only received 2 stars after committing to us. Arguably the greatest QB in FCS history, Armanti Edwards, had zero stars, only two scholarship offers (App & The Citadel) and a handful of offers to walk on, Clemson being one. It is an inexact science.

You're right. That would be an argument.. TRACY HAM!!!!
But at least Edwards is in the discussion. I'd rate him 2nd best.
I wonder how good Jason Foster would have been rated had we kept our Coach in 2005 and let him continue at QB. Then again.. guess AE and JF would have been fighting for the starting job. IMAGINE BOTH of them in GSU EAGLE BLUE!..... oh the things that might have happened. DANG TEXAS STATE! :)

(11-19-2014 03:50 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 02:57 PM)str8shooter Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:41 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:26 PM)moehler Wrote:  to me, the thing that carries the most weight is who is our competition for the recruit. In this case we beat out Penn State and East Carolina, that's pretty strong, if Penn State wanted him, that tells me he is pretty good.

Exactly. I don't put much into star ratings. I want to know who else is recruiting the guy. But even that doesn't tell the story sometimes. The two freshmen making the biggest impact on defense this year had zero FBS offers and only received 2 stars after committing to us. Arguably the greatest QB in FCS history, Armanti Edwards, had zero stars, only two scholarship offers (App & The Citadel) and a handful of offers to walk on, Clemson being one. It is an inexact science.

Not sure where you get that Edwards had only two offers. He was committed to GS and Sewak until Sewak was let to. VanGorder had no interest in him and he wound up at App St.

That is a frequent myth spoken in ya'lls knat lover circles. You guys hated VanGorder so much you even pinned losing Edwards on him. Edwards was actually heading to play WR at NMSU of all places until App showed up and offered him the chance to play QB. He told many people at App he received next to no interest from Ga Southern throughout his recruiting process.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/re...ards-36897

“Armanti was a nice high school quarterback, but I’m not sure any of us realized he would be as good as he is,” said Shell Dula, Greenwood High’s coach.

Interested in playing quarterback for a major-college program, Edwards received his first recruiting letter from Harvard. He was not interested and promptly threw it away. Only Appalachian State, the Citadel and Elon offered him a scholarship at quarterback, according to his mother.

At South Carolina, Coach Steve Spurrier, one of the country’s pre-eminent quarterback gurus, told Edwards and other recruits that none of them would be offered scholarships at the position, Anderson said. That news from Spurrier, who declined an interview request for this article, crushed Edwards.

Clemson Coach Tommy Bowden did not offer him a scholarship because there were bigger, faster and stronger quarterbacks.

“I’d take him in a heartbeat now,” Bowden said in a telephone interview. “I just made a mistake earlier.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/sports...d=all&_r=0

His profile on Scout lists offers from: NMSU, Furman, and App State
http://appalachianstate.scout.com/a.z?s=...id=1789564

So when Armanti told one of the people that votes in the Payton poll, at the banquet, that he was set to go to Georgia Southern until BVG ignored him he was lying?

(11-19-2014 04:53 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 03:50 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 02:57 PM)str8shooter Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:41 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:26 PM)moehler Wrote:  to me, the thing that carries the most weight is who is our competition for the recruit. In this case we beat out Penn State and East Carolina, that's pretty strong, if Penn State wanted him, that tells me he is pretty good.

Exactly. I don't put much into star ratings. I want to know who else is recruiting the guy. But even that doesn't tell the story sometimes. The two freshmen making the biggest impact on defense this year had zero FBS offers and only received 2 stars after committing to us. Arguably the greatest QB in FCS history, Armanti Edwards, had zero stars, only two scholarship offers (App & The Citadel) and a handful of offers to walk on, Clemson being one. It is an inexact science.

Not sure where you get that Edwards had only two offers. He was committed to GS and Sewak until Sewak was let to. VanGorder had no interest in him and he wound up at App St.

That is a frequent myth spoken in ya'lls knat lover circles. You guys hated VanGorder so much you even pinned losing Edwards on him. Edwards was actually heading to play WR at NMSU of all places until App showed up and offered him the chance to play QB. He told many people at App he received next to no interest from Ga Southern throughout his recruiting process.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/re...ards-36897

“Armanti was a nice high school quarterback, but I’m not sure any of us realized he would be as good as he is,” said Shell Dula, Greenwood High’s coach.

Interested in playing quarterback for a major-college program, Edwards received his first recruiting letter from Harvard. He was not interested and promptly threw it away. Only Appalachian State, the Citadel and Elon offered him a scholarship at quarterback, according to his mother.

At South Carolina, Coach Steve Spurrier, one of the country’s pre-eminent quarterback gurus, told Edwards and other recruits that none of them would be offered scholarships at the position, Anderson said. That news from Spurrier, who declined an interview request for this article, crushed Edwards.

Clemson Coach Tommy Bowden did not offer him a scholarship because there were bigger, faster and stronger quarterbacks.

“I’d take him in a heartbeat now,” Bowden said in a telephone interview. “I just made a mistake earlier.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/sports...d=all&_r=0

His profile on Scout lists offers from: NMSU, Furman, and App State
http://appalachianstate.scout.com/a.z?s=...id=1789564

So when Armanti told one of the people that votes in the Payton poll, at the banquet, that he was set to go to Georgia Southern until BVG ignored him he was lying?

Totally a myth. Care to name said Payton Poll voter? I can come up with a book full of those he said stories... I've know Armanti since he was a freshman. He's never said a single word about going to Ga So, being offered by Ga So or any one else. The Elon offer came in the last few days once they realized we had offered him, but Jerry Moore stated he thought Coco Hillary was our QB of the future and Elon tried to play that against us at the closing bell. Never heard the NMSU offer, but I don't follow Scout and no recruiting service has ever been wrong. Edwards was told he could compete for the QB spot, but everyone on the staff thought his future was at WR.

(11-19-2014 04:53 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 03:50 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 02:57 PM)str8shooter Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:41 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:26 PM)moehler Wrote:  to me, the thing that carries the most weight is who is our competition for the recruit. In this case we beat out Penn State and East Carolina, that's pretty strong, if Penn State wanted him, that tells me he is pretty good.

Exactly. I don't put much into star ratings. I want to know who else is recruiting the guy. But even that doesn't tell the story sometimes. The two freshmen making the biggest impact on defense this year had zero FBS offers and only received 2 stars after committing to us. Arguably the greatest QB in FCS history, Armanti Edwards, had zero stars, only two scholarship offers (App & The Citadel) and a handful of offers to walk on, Clemson being one. It is an inexact science.

Not sure where you get that Edwards had only two offers. He was committed to GS and Sewak until Sewak was let to. VanGorder had no interest in him and he wound up at App St.

That is a frequent myth spoken in ya'lls knat lover circles. You guys hated VanGorder so much you even pinned losing Edwards on him. Edwards was actually heading to play WR at NMSU of all places until App showed up and offered him the chance to play QB. He told many people at App he received next to no interest from Ga Southern throughout his recruiting process.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/re...ards-36897

“Armanti was a nice high school quarterback, but I’m not sure any of us realized he would be as good as he is,” said Shell Dula, Greenwood High’s coach.

Interested in playing quarterback for a major-college program, Edwards received his first recruiting letter from Harvard. He was not interested and promptly threw it away. Only Appalachian State, the Citadel and Elon offered him a scholarship at quarterback, according to his mother.

At South Carolina, Coach Steve Spurrier, one of the country’s pre-eminent quarterback gurus, told Edwards and other recruits that none of them would be offered scholarships at the position, Anderson said. That news from Spurrier, who declined an interview request for this article, crushed Edwards.

Clemson Coach Tommy Bowden did not offer him a scholarship because there were bigger, faster and stronger quarterbacks.

“I’d take him in a heartbeat now,” Bowden said in a telephone interview. “I just made a mistake earlier.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/sports...d=all&_r=0

His profile on Scout lists offers from: NMSU, Furman, and App State
http://appalachianstate.scout.com/a.z?s=...id=1789564

So when Armanti told one of the people that votes in the Payton poll, at the banquet, that he was set to go to Georgia Southern until BVG ignored him he was lying?

Maybe he wasn't, in all reality maybe he was just putting more pain on you poor fellas since he knew he couldn't do it anymore to ya'll on the field.