UAB Band Dad
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
We might lose, there are powerful forces lined up against us... but we won't go down without a fight.
Let's win this thing.
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11-19-2014 12:00 PM |
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blazinrunner
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
(11-19-2014 10:49 AM)AnimeBlazer Wrote: (11-19-2014 10:39 AM)Smaug Wrote: (11-19-2014 10:23 AM)AnimeBlazer Wrote: We have a similar attendance to that of at least 1/2 the teams playing division 1 football right now. Watch TV. It is readily apparent
We would hard sell out smaller stadiums I am seeing out there like ODU, WKU, etc. regularly
If you let the argument become about attendance in a debate with someone who thinks 100K+ is average you will lose.
Brush this aside like the smoke and mirrors it is.
Governor, I and my republican state senator support self-determination for UAB so we can count our attendance by ourselves. I also vote in primaries. Every single time.
With all of that said, the best way to support the team has always been to buy tickets officially (season and otherwise) and show up to the games. <---if you are on this board making noise and you haven't done this last part then you need to STFU until you do.
You were a big Bentley guy, weren't you, Goat?
I just voted for him again this month. He says he loves everyone in Alabama. He should certainly demonstrate it in this regard.
I'm also not a one issue voter. And the worst thing in the world would be to have UAB vs UAT come down to party affiliation because of some weird putsch on our fanbase (a fanbase that I'd like to hope still comes in a myriad of colors, opinions, and backgrounds).
He doesn't love people who would benefit from Medicaid Expansion (which coincidentally would greatly benefit UAB and Birmingham as well).
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11-19-2014 12:01 PM |
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blazinrunner
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
(11-19-2014 11:28 AM)braish Wrote: (11-19-2014 11:25 AM)BlazerPhil Wrote: (11-19-2014 09:50 AM)thebernreuter Wrote: (11-19-2014 09:46 AM)BandGrad Wrote: I don't think Bentley's statement bodes well for us at all. He drove the point home. Period.
I guess he hasn't been to a game this year.
From Dragnet, Jack Webb's first rule for a party. If you think someone will complain about your party, invite them to attend.
Gov. Bentley, I have you a ticket and a non-defective paddle ball , when ever you choose to attend a UAB home football game.
We ought to send the Governor a ticket and ask him to show his support as a member of the BOT. He won't attend but if the Football Foundation made a public gesture it would generate some good media attention.
This!!! Send him a ticket. I do not have an extra one or I would mail it to him.
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11-19-2014 12:03 PM |
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nicknitro19
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
Make sure you send Governor Bentley two ticketes. He travels with his State Trooper Body Guard everywhere he goes.
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11-19-2014 12:29 PM |
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kdblazer
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
If our football team gets axed because of so-called fiscal responsibility then every state school should fall under that same scrutiny. The Troy and USA fans should be fighting along side of us because the argument their using is detrimental to them more so than us. I don't see how this flies. If it comes then what's the governor gonna say about those other programs that have attendance figures far lower than ours.
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11-19-2014 12:44 PM |
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11-19-2014 12:46 PM |
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BlazerGrad88
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
Speaking of fiscal responsibility, they should also remember that the athletic department has had zero debt service for the past four years at least. (Of course, that's not necessarily a good thing because as Mr. Scarbinsky pointed out in a recent column, ideally we should have some debt service to pay for the capital improvements that should have already been built, but still ...)
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11-19-2014 01:30 PM |
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Doktyr X
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
The fiscal responsibility issue is a joke. According to state budget numbers from 2012, UAH brought in about $250 million and budgeted for about $450 million (operating at a loss of about $200 million). UAT football brought in about $330 million and the rest of the school provided another $150 million. They budgeted for $900 million (operating at a loss of about $520 million). UAB brought in $2.3 BILLION (yes, that is with a "B") and budgeted for $1 Billion (operating at a profit of $1.3 billion). Granted all the money goes into the state coffers to be distributed as the state see fit.
It seems to me that a fiscally responsible BOT would look at loss reduction where loses occur as a starting point if they were concerned with money issues. UAH AND UAT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO OPERATE BY DEFICIT BUDGETING. If those two have to live on what they brought in, UAH would be reduced to a tiny little engineering school working for NASA and UAT would be nothing more than a permanent NFL training camp.
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11-19-2014 02:11 PM |
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UAB Band Dad
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
No, fiscal problems are very real. The state is in the crapper for about $700m worth when it's all told. Notice that no one said a single damn thing about this during the election campaign just past.
It's the idea that it can be fixed in any way by cutting UAB's football program that's bogus.
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11-19-2014 02:24 PM |
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Doktyr X
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
What I meant to point out is that the BOT's idea of fiscal responsibility is bogus. Believe me, I understand our overall state budget is in the crapper.
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11-19-2014 02:28 PM |
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UAB Band Dad
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2014/11...udget.html
LOL at ""Taxes would be the last thing I would look to as far as raising a new tax. But I cannot see getting through this without having to raise more revenue," said Bentley."
You're $700m under water. You've been ducking doing anything about fixing it, using accounting tricks, borrowing money, using one time payments, etc. Now the bill is coming due. You've already cut to the point that you're past the fat and into muscle and bone.
They're going to *have* to raise taxes, and you watch, it will somehow be the Democrat's fault, even though Republicans hold every statewide office and have had control for years now.
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11-19-2014 02:28 PM |
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UAB Band Dad
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
I don't disagree with you, Doc. It's just that the current climate makes it easy to pretend that killing UAB Athletics is fiscal responsibility, even if we both know its a drop in the bucket problemwise and an utterly unreasonable solution.
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11-19-2014 02:30 PM |
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Doktyr X
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
No problem, Band Dad. What can we do to get that point across to those who can do something about it?
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11-19-2014 02:33 PM |
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UAB Band Dad
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
I suggest a ball bat with a spike driven through it, liberally applied.
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11-19-2014 02:35 PM |
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Doktyr X
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
That works for me.
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
(11-19-2014 02:28 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2014/11...udget.html
LOL at ""Taxes would be the last thing I would look to as far as raising a new tax. But I cannot see getting through this without having to raise more revenue," said Bentley."
You're $700m under water. You've been ducking doing anything about fixing it, using accounting tricks, borrowing money, using one time payments, etc. Now the bill is coming due. You've already cut to the point that you're past the fat and into muscle and bone.
They're going to *have* to raise taxes, and you watch, it will somehow be the Democrat's fault, even though Republicans hold every statewide office and have had control for years now.
Did he really blame part of his and his pals' 700 MILLION dollar tab on the state raiding the education fund to shore up the general fund? Wasn't he in favor of that technique just a few months ago?!
Bentley is really something else.
(This post was last modified: 11-19-2014 03:23 PM by TPBlaze84.)
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FNblazer
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RE: Gov. Bentley on UAB FOOTBALL
Now the next time AB says that PBJ is lobbying him you won't dismiss it as outlandish. The opposition must make well-timed statements to try to stem the groundswell of public support.
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11-19-2014 03:31 PM |
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