(11-10-2014 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 05:57 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Doomsday? No SEC team in playoffs?
I still think Mississippi State runs the table and wins in Atlanta over Mizzou or Georgia.

We can still get two teams in the playoffs in if Mississippi State loses to only Alabama and the winner of the Alabama/Mizzou SECCG gets voted in.

Perhaps you can explain this to me. Why do you feel as if it is some great thing if the SEC gets two teams in the playoff? I don't want to see two PAC teams or two Big Ten teams in the playoff. I don't want to see both Oregon and Arizona State make it in. I want to see one team rise above the rest and prove they are worthy of representing their respective conferences against the rest of the country.

Do you guys feel there is something missing in your lives that it requires two SEC teams in the playoffs to make up for it? Is it some spitefulness against the rest of the country? I am sorry but the rest of us just don't quite understand this mindset. I get wanting a particular conference to win it all. What I don't get is why you want your conference to win it all against yourselves. It quite literally doesn't make any sense at all. That is what you do in the SEC Championship. If you want to argue in the end that the SEC Championship game mattered more than any Playoff game, including the Championship, then great. I would very much enjoy having that debate in the end if it is even debatable.

What I don't get is this mentality you people seem to have about wanting to play yourselves in the National Playoff.

Aren't you people against Entitlements?

H1,

Sometimes I think you read too much into the speculations that are presented by SEC fans. I haven't seen one thread or post that has flat out said the SEC deserves to have two teams in. All murrdcu did was present a scenario by which there would be two one loss teams in the SEC for the committee to evaluate. Said committee has stated that winning the conference is important, yet not the sole factor in determining which four teams make. It's no different from determining which would be the appropriate B12 rep; Baylor or TCU. As long as Jeff Long and company remain non-commital regarding conference champs (a suspect position IMO), the reasoning is valid.

(11-11-2014 08:23 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 05:57 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Doomsday? No SEC team in playoffs?
I still think Mississippi State runs the table and wins in Atlanta over Mizzou or Georgia.

We can still get two teams in the playoffs in if Mississippi State loses to only Alabama and the winner of the Alabama/Mizzou SECCG gets voted in.

Perhaps you can explain this to me. Why do you feel as if it is some great thing if the SEC gets two teams in the playoff? I don't want to see two PAC teams or two Big Ten teams in the playoff. I don't want to see both Oregon and Arizona State make it in. I want to see one team rise above the rest and prove they are worthy of representing their respective conferences against the rest of the country.

Do you guys feel there is something missing in your lives that it requires two SEC teams in the playoffs to make up for it? Is it some spitefulness against the rest of the country? I am sorry but the rest of us just don't quite understand this mindset. I get wanting a particular conference to win it all. What I don't get is why you want your conference to win it all against yourselves. It quite literally doesn't make any sense at all. That is what you do in the SEC Championship. If you want to argue in the end that the SEC Championship game mattered more than any Playoff game, including the Championship, then great. I would very much enjoy having that debate in the end if it is even debatable.

What I don't get is this mentality you people seem to have about wanting to play yourselves in the National Playoff.

Aren't you people against Entitlements?

H1,

Sometimes I think you read too much into the speculations that are presented by SEC fans. I haven't seen one thread or post that has flat out said the SEC deserves to have two teams in. All murrdcu did was present a scenario by which there would be two one loss teams in the SEC for the committee to evaluate. Said committee has stated that winning the conference is important, yet not the sole factor in determining which four teams make. It's no different from determining which would be the appropriate B12 rep; Baylor or TCU. As long as Jeff Long and company remain non-commital regarding conference champs (a suspect position IMO), the reasoning is valid.

I am happy with just one. If State loses and falls to 7 or 8 in the polls, how can the committee move them in front of another one loss team already in front of them? That is when everyone will start claiming bias.

(11-11-2014 04:18 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 08:23 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 05:57 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Doomsday? No SEC team in playoffs?
I still think Mississippi State runs the table and wins in Atlanta over Mizzou or Georgia.

We can still get two teams in the playoffs in if Mississippi State loses to only Alabama and the winner of the Alabama/Mizzou SECCG gets voted in.

Perhaps you can explain this to me. Why do you feel as if it is some great thing if the SEC gets two teams in the playoff? I don't want to see two PAC teams or two Big Ten teams in the playoff. I don't want to see both Oregon and Arizona State make it in. I want to see one team rise above the rest and prove they are worthy of representing their respective conferences against the rest of the country.

Do you guys feel there is something missing in your lives that it requires two SEC teams in the playoffs to make up for it? Is it some spitefulness against the rest of the country? I am sorry but the rest of us just don't quite understand this mindset. I get wanting a particular conference to win it all. What I don't get is why you want your conference to win it all against yourselves. It quite literally doesn't make any sense at all. That is what you do in the SEC Championship. If you want to argue in the end that the SEC Championship game mattered more than any Playoff game, including the Championship, then great. I would very much enjoy having that debate in the end if it is even debatable.

What I don't get is this mentality you people seem to have about wanting to play yourselves in the National Playoff.

Aren't you people against Entitlements?

H1,

Sometimes I think you read too much into the speculations that are presented by SEC fans. I haven't seen one thread or post that has flat out said the SEC deserves to have two teams in. All murrdcu did was present a scenario by which there would be two one loss teams in the SEC for the committee to evaluate. Said committee has stated that winning the conference is important, yet not the sole factor in determining which four teams make. It's no different from determining which would be the appropriate B12 rep; Baylor or TCU. As long as Jeff Long and company remain non-commital regarding conference champs (a suspect position IMO), the reasoning is valid.

I am happy with just one. If State loses and falls to 7 or 8 in the polls, how can the committee move them in front of another one loss team already in front of them? That is when everyone will start claiming bias.

Unless State gets blown out they won't drop that far in the polls. They'd obviously drop below FSU and Bama, but I think they'd drop below Oregon as well, but they could very well stay ahead of both TCU and Baylor. If they then win the Egg Bowl, they'd have a pretty decent shot of being ranked number 4 in the final bowls. Of course if they lose 59-0 like A&M did then they would drop farther and it would be unlikely for them to get selected unless all sorts of craziness occurs with lots more losses by top 10 teams.

If Miss State loses, how bad they lose to Alabama will be very important. A bad loss could drop them down to #5 or maybe even #6 if Ohio State blows out #25 Minnesota. Baylor wont move up because they aren't playing this weekend.

(11-10-2014 02:02 PM)JRsec Wrote:  An uproar is great! I don't want a damned committee picking the teams. I don't want Condi Rice, a politician, or any politician, picking the field. And I don't think any conference's champion should be left out or that any conference needs two schools in.

I am all about the Big 12 getting left out, not because I'm anti Big 12, but because we need standardization in the sport and among the conferences.

I am in 100% agreement about deciding it on the field, instead of subjectively. At least we are slowly getting rid of the corrupt bowl system that held the game back for decades.

If you want an uproar, then the SEC getting left out is the most likely to cause it if no SEC school gets through with less than 2 losses (unlikely, but possible). Then ESPN who controls the playoff might push to change it quickly to protect it's SEC investment. The B12 (or PAC and ACC) being left out won't change much. They do not have the ratings clout with down USC, OU, and Texas programs. The B1G being left out for 2-3 years would also cause some teeth gnashing, but not on the scale of the SEC being left out this year would.

(11-11-2014 09:33 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  If Miss State loses, how bad they lose to Alabama will be very important. A bad loss could drop them down to #5 or maybe even #6 if Ohio State blows out #25 Minnesota. Baylor wont move up because they aren't playing this weekend.

The country and media are begging for MS State to lose. They will be dropped to 6 or 7 because no one believes they are really that good, true or not... Ole Miss didn't help State in the "respect" game with their losses after such a great start.

(11-12-2014 04:53 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 09:33 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  If Miss State loses, how bad they lose to Alabama will be very important. A bad loss could drop them down to #5 or maybe even #6 if Ohio State blows out #25 Minnesota. Baylor wont move up because they aren't playing this weekend.

The country and media are begging for MS State to lose. They will be dropped to 6 or 7 because no one believes they are really that good, true or not... Ole Miss didn't help State in the "respect" game with their losses after such a great start.

It gets even worse when you take into consideration that the starters for Miss State basically had this weekend off compared to Alabama having a very physical extended game. If a banged up Alabama squad can beat them this weekend then that will be taken into account.

So here we are.... Alabama must win the Iron Bowl tomorrow. Mississippi State must beat Ole Miss in the Egg Bowl. Should Alabama lose to Auburn, they will probably be out. Miss State losing will knock them out. The SEC west winner has to beat Missouri in Atlanta, or they might be out. If Alabama wins against Auburn and wins the west division, a Miss State win will not stand up as #4 if Ohio State runs the table and wins the B1G. If Miss State beats Ole Miss and Alabama loses, a win in the SEC CCG probably gets the Bulldogs in. FSU and Oregon could lose. I am not sure the SEC has a berth in the bag though. A lot of things could break the wrong way for us... It is making my head hurt.

On another note, this Arky-Mizzou game is going nuclear very soon. What a great game. I had to fight myself for three quarters not to just turn it off.

(11-28-2014 08:09 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  So here we are.... Alabama must win the Iron Bowl tomorrow. Mississippi State must beat Ole Miss in the Egg Bowl. Should Alabama lose to Auburn, they will probably be out. Miss State losing will knock them out. The SEC west winner has to beat Missouri in Atlanta, or they might be out. If Alabama wins against Auburn and wins the west division, a Miss State win will not stand up as #4 if Ohio State runs the table and wins the B1G. If Miss State beats Ole Miss and Alabama loses, a win in the SEC CCG probably gets the Bulldogs in. FSU and Oregon could lose. I am not sure the SEC has a berth in the bag though. A lot of things could break the wrong way for us... It is making my head hurt.

On another note, this Arky-Mizzou game is going nuclear very soon. What a great game. I had to fight myself for three quarters not to just turn it off.

Medic, Mississippi State's strength of schedule is 8th toughest in the nation. The next closest from a team behind them is T.C.U. at 13th. I'm afraid Ohio State is back quite a bit in that regard. Baylor is too, just not as much as the Buckeyes. "Probably" is not the word for the Bulldogs winning out. "Certainly" is the word if they win out. At this point losses are what eliminate a team. Florida State's SOS is so weak that a loss could end it for them even though they would only have 1 loss. Alabama cannot afford a loss and neither can Mississippi State, but the same can be said for Oregon, Baylor, and T.C.U.. However the Horny Toads have only Iowa State left so that is why I think if anyone stumbles they get in, and quite frankly ahead of Ohio State. We'll wait and see, but that's how I see it, and it is why the committee has the schools ranked as they do presently.

Things fall apart for the SEC and their CFP dreams... Nevertheless, it's been a great season.

(11-29-2014 10:21 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Things fall apart for the SEC and their CFP dreams... Nevertheless, it's been a great season.

I still don't understand why you guys would dream about having two teams in the playoff. It seems way overboard. You guys should just be happy that you dodged the bullet of not having any teams in the playoff.

(11-29-2014 10:21 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Things fall apart for the SEC and their CFP dreams... Nevertheless, it's been a great season.

Premature post. Right now (especially given the anti FSU sentiment) if Georgia Tech pulls the upset, Alabama beats Missouri, Arizona beats Oregon again, and Wisconsin beats Ohio State then we get a whole new paradigm for the final 4. At that point it gets interesting. T.C.U. and Baylor would make it along with Alabama. The question then becomes who is number 4? Georgia Tech, Mississippi State, Oregon, Wisconsin, Michigan State, etc. Now let Missouri beat Bama with everything else I've postulated and then there are a bunch of 2 loss teams vying for the 3rd & 4th positions. There is still much to be determined. Now whether we get two in or none is yet to be determined as well. If it is none then it would have been a colossal fail. Two was only ever a theoretical possibility and one if Miss State had won would have presented the new committee with a real mess to sort out.

(11-30-2014 10:16 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 10:21 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Things fall apart for the SEC and their CFP dreams... Nevertheless, it's been a great season.

Premature post. Right now (especially given the anti FSU sentiment) if Georgia Tech pulls the upset, Alabama beats Missouri, Arizona beats Oregon again, and Wisconsin beats Ohio State then we get a whole new paradigm for the final 4. At that point it gets interesting. T.C.U. and Baylor would make it along with Alabama. The question then becomes who is number 4? Georgia Tech, Mississippi State, Oregon, Wisconsin, Michigan State, etc. Now let Missouri beat Bama with everything else I've postulated and then there are a bunch of 2 loss teams vying for the 3rd & 4th positions. There is still much to be determined. Now whether we get two in or none is yet to be determined as well. If it is none then it would have been a colossal fail. Two was only ever a theoretical possibility and one if Miss State had won would have presented the new committee with a real mess to sort out.

How about MU beats Alabama and KSU beats Baylor as well. TCU probably is the one seed then, and there is a log jam of 2 loss schools, plus a 1 loss FSU who the committee does not seem to like much. Blissful chaos and maybe a step towards a champs model eventually.

(12-01-2014 12:39 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:16 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 10:21 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Things fall apart for the SEC and their CFP dreams... Nevertheless, it's been a great season.

Premature post. Right now (especially given the anti FSU sentiment) if Georgia Tech pulls the upset, Alabama beats Missouri, Arizona beats Oregon again, and Wisconsin beats Ohio State then we get a whole new paradigm for the final 4. At that point it gets interesting. T.C.U. and Baylor would make it along with Alabama. The question then becomes who is number 4? Georgia Tech, Mississippi State, Oregon, Wisconsin, Michigan State, etc. Now let Missouri beat Bama with everything else I've postulated and then there are a bunch of 2 loss teams vying for the 3rd & 4th positions. There is still much to be determined. Now whether we get two in or none is yet to be determined as well. If it is none then it would have been a colossal fail. Two was only ever a theoretical possibility and one if Miss State had won would have presented the new committee with a real mess to sort out.

How about MU beats Alabama and KSU beats Baylor as well. TCU probably is the one seed then, and there is a log jam of 2 loss schools, plus a 1 loss FSU who the committee does not seem to like much. Blissful chaos and maybe a step towards a champs model eventually.

Indeed! However what we actually have at this time is ESPN's dream scenario: Florida State, Alabama, Oregon, Ohio State. Get your committee to seed them properly and the Rose Bowl is Oregon vs Ohio State and the Sugar Bowl is Alabama vs Florida State. Either way you set up an East vs West, or a North vs South market match for the finals. Coincidence? Maybe not. Let's say Georgia Tech does pull the upset but that is the only one. Then you have this from a network perspective: T.C.U. (Southwest/DFW) vs Alabama in the Sugar and still have Oregon vs Ohio State (West Coast and Midwest through New England) in the Sugar. Alabama essentially covers the same demographic as F.S.U. so you are just swapping a national brand for more market share.

But you are correct that a total screw up would end this mess before it begins. Wisconsin over Ohio State, Missouri over Alabama, Kansas State over Baylor, Arizona over Oregon, and Georgia Tech over Florida State and we would have further consolidation practically tomorrow in realignment terms, followed by the 4 champs model and the gerrymandering of the 4 divisions within each of the remaining P4. Big money/strong draw national brands would be spread out in each conference into different divisions, mandatory crossover games would be set up (1 each against other conferences) and a mandatory 9 conference game schedule implemented and the networks would have going forward in most years their national brands represented throughout an orderly committee free playoff with the constant content they desire. If a T.C.U. made a run it would be like the handful of Cinderella's in the NCAA tourney, a big story angle for them to showcase until the run was over. All regions would stay involved and they wouldn't have to look like the puppeteers they are now to the public.

What most posters fail to realize is that a 4 champs model places the networks (who are in danger of losing public trust) back behind the scenes where they too look like spectators instead of directors. The format gives them their guaranteed ad revenue and the committeeless nature of it all gives them back their credibility. Any school in the P4 then can legitimately tell their fan base at the start of each season that they are in the hunt for the national championship (at least until they are mathematically eliminated from their division crown).

The model legitimizes everything.

(11-30-2014 10:16 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 10:21 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Things fall apart for the SEC and their CFP dreams... Nevertheless, it's been a great season.

Premature post. Right now (especially given the anti FSU sentiment) if Georgia Tech pulls the upset, Alabama beats Missouri, Arizona beats Oregon again, and Wisconsin beats Ohio State then we get a whole new paradigm for the final 4. At that point it gets interesting. T.C.U. and Baylor would make it along with Alabama. The question then becomes who is number 4? Georgia Tech, Mississippi State, Oregon, Wisconsin, Michigan State, etc. Now let Missouri beat Bama with everything else I've postulated and then there are a bunch of 2 loss teams vying for the 3rd & 4th positions. There is still much to be determined. Now whether we get two in or none is yet to be determined as well. If it is none then it would have been a colossal fail. Two was only ever a theoretical possibility and one if Miss State had won would have presented the new committee with a real mess to sort out.

You're right, it is quite premature but I think the prospect of the SEC even still getting a team into the CFP is up in the air. Granted it was a rivalry game, but Auburn was able to move the ball on Bama with ease. If good Matty Mauk shows up for Mizzou it could be more of the same in Atlanta.

(11-30-2014 11:14 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 10:21 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Things fall apart for the SEC and their CFP dreams... Nevertheless, it's been a great season.

I still don't understand why you guys would dream about having two teams in the playoff. It seems way overboard. You guys should just be happy that you dodged the bullet of not having any teams in the playoff.

This was the point of my unclear post. It's uncertain that the SEC will still get a team into the CFP.

(12-01-2014 03:53 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 12:39 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:16 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 10:21 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Things fall apart for the SEC and their CFP dreams... Nevertheless, it's been a great season.

Premature post. Right now (especially given the anti FSU sentiment) if Georgia Tech pulls the upset, Alabama beats Missouri, Arizona beats Oregon again, and Wisconsin beats Ohio State then we get a whole new paradigm for the final 4. At that point it gets interesting. T.C.U. and Baylor would make it along with Alabama. The question then becomes who is number 4? Georgia Tech, Mississippi State, Oregon, Wisconsin, Michigan State, etc. Now let Missouri beat Bama with everything else I've postulated and then there are a bunch of 2 loss teams vying for the 3rd & 4th positions. There is still much to be determined. Now whether we get two in or none is yet to be determined as well. If it is none then it would have been a colossal fail. Two was only ever a theoretical possibility and one if Miss State had won would have presented the new committee with a real mess to sort out.

How about MU beats Alabama and KSU beats Baylor as well. TCU probably is the one seed then, and there is a log jam of 2 loss schools, plus a 1 loss FSU who the committee does not seem to like much. Blissful chaos and maybe a step towards a champs model eventually.

Indeed! However what we actually have at this time is ESPN's dream scenario: Florida State, Alabama, Oregon, Ohio State. Get your committee to seed them properly and the Rose Bowl is Oregon vs Ohio State and the Sugar Bowl is Alabama vs Florida State. Either way you set up an East vs West, or a North vs South market match for the finals. Coincidence? Maybe not. Let's say Georgia Tech does pull the upset but that is the only one. Then you have this from a network perspective: T.C.U. (Southwest/DFW) vs Alabama in the Sugar and still have Oregon vs Ohio State (West Coast and Midwest through New England) in the Sugar. Alabama essentially covers the same demographic as F.S.U. so you are just swapping a national brand for more market share.

But you are correct that a total screw up would end this mess before it begins. Wisconsin over Ohio State, Missouri over Alabama, Kansas State over Baylor, Arizona over Oregon, and Georgia Tech over Florida State and we would have further consolidation practically tomorrow in realignment terms, followed by the 4 champs model and the gerrymandering of the 4 divisions within each of the remaining P4. Big money/strong draw national brands would be spread out in each conference into different divisions, mandatory crossover games would be set up (1 each against other conferences) and a mandatory 9 conference game schedule implemented and the networks would have going forward in most years their national brands represented throughout an orderly committee free playoff with the constant content they desire. If a T.C.U. made a run it would be like the handful of Cinderella's in the NCAA tourney, a big story angle for them to showcase until the run was over. All regions would stay involved and they wouldn't have to look like the puppeteers they are now to the public.

What most posters fail to realize is that a 4 champs model places the networks (who are in danger of losing public trust) back behind the scenes where they too look like spectators instead of directors. The format gives them their guaranteed ad revenue and the committeeless nature of it all gives them back their credibility. Any school in the P4 then can legitimately tell their fan base at the start of each season that they are in the hunt for the national championship (at least until they are mathematically eliminated from their division crown).

The model legitimizes everything.

It legitimizes everything unless, on occasion, three or four G5 teams emerge that are conspicuously better than any of their so-called power conference counterparts. Yeah, I know, that probably wouldn't happen often, but it could happen. Everyone loves underdogs, right?

(12-01-2014 03:28 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 03:53 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 12:39 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:16 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 10:21 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Things fall apart for the SEC and their CFP dreams... Nevertheless, it's been a great season.

Premature post. Right now (especially given the anti FSU sentiment) if Georgia Tech pulls the upset, Alabama beats Missouri, Arizona beats Oregon again, and Wisconsin beats Ohio State then we get a whole new paradigm for the final 4. At that point it gets interesting. T.C.U. and Baylor would make it along with Alabama. The question then becomes who is number 4? Georgia Tech, Mississippi State, Oregon, Wisconsin, Michigan State, etc. Now let Missouri beat Bama with everything else I've postulated and then there are a bunch of 2 loss teams vying for the 3rd & 4th positions. There is still much to be determined. Now whether we get two in or none is yet to be determined as well. If it is none then it would have been a colossal fail. Two was only ever a theoretical possibility and one if Miss State had won would have presented the new committee with a real mess to sort out.

How about MU beats Alabama and KSU beats Baylor as well. TCU probably is the one seed then, and there is a log jam of 2 loss schools, plus a 1 loss FSU who the committee does not seem to like much. Blissful chaos and maybe a step towards a champs model eventually.

Indeed! However what we actually have at this time is ESPN's dream scenario: Florida State, Alabama, Oregon, Ohio State. Get your committee to seed them properly and the Rose Bowl is Oregon vs Ohio State and the Sugar Bowl is Alabama vs Florida State. Either way you set up an East vs West, or a North vs South market match for the finals. Coincidence? Maybe not. Let's say Georgia Tech does pull the upset but that is the only one. Then you have this from a network perspective: T.C.U. (Southwest/DFW) vs Alabama in the Sugar and still have Oregon vs Ohio State (West Coast and Midwest through New England) in the Sugar. Alabama essentially covers the same demographic as F.S.U. so you are just swapping a national brand for more market share.

But you are correct that a total screw up would end this mess before it begins. Wisconsin over Ohio State, Missouri over Alabama, Kansas State over Baylor, Arizona over Oregon, and Georgia Tech over Florida State and we would have further consolidation practically tomorrow in realignment terms, followed by the 4 champs model and the gerrymandering of the 4 divisions within each of the remaining P4. Big money/strong draw national brands would be spread out in each conference into different divisions, mandatory crossover games would be set up (1 each against other conferences) and a mandatory 9 conference game schedule implemented and the networks would have going forward in most years their national brands represented throughout an orderly committee free playoff with the constant content they desire. If a T.C.U. made a run it would be like the handful of Cinderella's in the NCAA tourney, a big story angle for them to showcase until the run was over. All regions would stay involved and they wouldn't have to look like the puppeteers they are now to the public.

What most posters fail to realize is that a 4 champs model places the networks (who are in danger of losing public trust) back behind the scenes where they too look like spectators instead of directors. The format gives them their guaranteed ad revenue and the committeeless nature of it all gives them back their credibility. Any school in the P4 then can legitimately tell their fan base at the start of each season that they are in the hunt for the national championship (at least until they are mathematically eliminated from their division crown).

The model legitimizes everything.

It legitimizes everything unless, on occasion, three or four G5 teams emerge that are conspicuously better than any of their so-called power conference counterparts. Yeah, I know, that probably wouldn't happen often, but it could happen. Everyone loves underdogs, right?

Everyone but the networks if their market is small. The aforementioned could easily happen with a few P5 schools dropping down on purpose. Wake has alluded to as much already. It only takes two leaving to get Cincinnati in (if they are both from East of the Mississippi). There are really just 3 hot prospects for moving up currently in the G5 and depending upon who is looking the order of their call up would vary. Connecticut, Cincinnati, and Brigham Young are the ones that probably will make the bump up before things are concluded. Central Florida would be a distant 4 with E.C.U. hanging around 5. There are other good candidates but they are on the West coast and unless the PAC feels the inclination they are probably out.

If Alabama loses I suspect they will only drop to fourth. That is what happened to MS State... That said, they won't lose. At this point I am putting my conference ahead of Missouri. We will have the #1 ranked team and it will remain that way.

(12-02-2014 03:22 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  If Alabama loses I suspect they will only drop to fourth. That is what happened to MS State... That said, they won't lose. At this point I am putting my conference ahead of Missouri. We will have the #1 ranked team and it will remain that way.

If Alabama loses to Missouri, it would depend upon how they looked. That being said, do they really deserve a chance to win the National Championship if they cant win the SEC Championship?

That would be a bold statement indeed by the Committee.