(11-07-2014 04:15 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 04:08 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Sure, if he's operating on my brain, he's familiar. Health care policy for the country is slightly a different matter.

Which is why we should rely on a community organizer to develop Insurance policy.

Pfft...he hardly developed the policy.

(11-07-2014 04:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 04:15 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 04:08 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Sure, if he's operating on my brain, he's familiar. Health care policy for the country is slightly a different matter.

Which is why we should rely on a community organizer to develop Insurance policy.

Pfft...he hardly developed the policy.

LOL....i'm aware of that, as are we all. Teams of folks develop the specifics of policy, regardless of the President and his/her political party. The President is a figure head, a people manager, an executive.

(11-07-2014 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  They'll only vote for him because he's black.

Who is "they"?

I like the guy, but I don't think he is qualified to be president.

(11-08-2014 12:47 AM)Claw Wrote:  I like the guy, but I don't think he is qualified to be president.

In all honesty he would probably make a better VP.

(11-07-2014 09:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 08:34 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  He is no worse the the rest of the possible candidates. I like most his policies and want to hear more. He does have a hurdle to overcome by being a Seventh Day Adventist.

Mitt didn't drink coffee or campaign on Sunday's.

I don't think though that Mormons believe the earth is 6000 years old. I'm waiting to hear Carson answer the questions that will for sure be asked about this. It may well be that he does not subscribe to that tenant of the SDA like I don't subscribe to the "predestination" tenet of the Presbyterian faith that I am a part of. I like the guy. I just need more info about him. He might actually be a better VP candidate than head of the ticket.

(11-07-2014 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  They'll only vote for him because he's black.

irony.

(11-08-2014 12:50 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 09:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 08:34 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  He is no worse the the rest of the possible candidates. I like most his policies and want to hear more. He does have a hurdle to overcome by being a Seventh Day Adventist.

Mitt didn't drink coffee or campaign on Sunday's.

I don't think though that Mormons believe the earth is 6000 years old. I'm waiting to hear Carson answer the questions that will for sure be asked about this. It may well be that he does not subscribe to that tenant of the SDA like I don't subscribe to the "predestination" tenet of the Presbyterian faith that I am a part of. I like the guy. I just need more info about him. He might actually be a better VP candidate than head of the ticket.

yeah, because we can't have any believers in office. that would totally ruin everything.

Given a choice between someone who thinks the earth is 6000 years old and someone who thinks Obamacare is a good idea, I'd go with the young earther all day long. Clearly as the lesser of two evils, but very much the lesser.

(11-08-2014 12:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Given a choice between someone who thinks the earth is 6000 years old and someone who thinks Obamacare is a good idea, I'd go with the young earther all day long. Clearly as the lesser of two evils, but very much the lesser.

I'm going to wait and hear what the man has to say on the subject before forming my opinion. At this point it would be unfair to him to put words in his mouth.

(11-08-2014 12:53 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 12:50 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 09:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 08:34 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  He is no worse the the rest of the possible candidates. I like most his policies and want to hear more. He does have a hurdle to overcome by being a Seventh Day Adventist.

Mitt didn't drink coffee or campaign on Sunday's.

I don't think though that Mormons believe the earth is 6000 years old. I'm waiting to hear Carson answer the questions that will for sure be asked about this. It may well be that he does not subscribe to that tenant of the SDA like I don't subscribe to the "predestination" tenet of the Presbyterian faith that I am a part of. I like the guy. I just need more info about him. He might actually be a better VP candidate than head of the ticket.

yeah, because we can't have any believers in office. that would totally ruin everything.

I'm fine with believers. I doubt though I would vote for a young earther to be the leader of the free world. I am not at this point going to put that label on Dr. Carson. Ill let him address it. He is going to get an opportunity to explain his position if he really runs for POTUS.

(11-08-2014 12:53 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 12:50 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 09:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 08:34 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  He is no worse the the rest of the possible candidates. I like most his policies and want to hear more. He does have a hurdle to overcome by being a Seventh Day Adventist.

Mitt didn't drink coffee or campaign on Sunday's.

I don't think though that Mormons believe the earth is 6000 years old. I'm waiting to hear Carson answer the questions that will for sure be asked about this. It may well be that he does not subscribe to that tenant of the SDA like I don't subscribe to the "predestination" tenet of the Presbyterian faith that I am a part of. I like the guy. I just need more info about him. He might actually be a better VP candidate than head of the ticket.

yeah, because we can't have any believers in office. that would totally ruin everything.

It would and has.

(11-08-2014 05:58 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 12:53 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 12:50 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 09:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 08:34 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  He is no worse the the rest of the possible candidates. I like most his policies and want to hear more. He does have a hurdle to overcome by being a Seventh Day Adventist.

Mitt didn't drink coffee or campaign on Sunday's.

I don't think though that Mormons believe the earth is 6000 years old. I'm waiting to hear Carson answer the questions that will for sure be asked about this. It may well be that he does not subscribe to that tenant of the SDA like I don't subscribe to the "predestination" tenet of the Presbyterian faith that I am a part of. I like the guy. I just need more info about him. He might actually be a better VP candidate than head of the ticket.

yeah, because we can't have any believers in office. that would totally ruin everything.

It would and has.

So why in your opinion would an atheist be a better president?

(11-08-2014 08:50 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 05:58 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 12:53 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 12:50 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 09:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Mitt didn't drink coffee or campaign on Sunday's.

I don't think though that Mormons believe the earth is 6000 years old. I'm waiting to hear Carson answer the questions that will for sure be asked about this. It may well be that he does not subscribe to that tenant of the SDA like I don't subscribe to the "predestination" tenet of the Presbyterian faith that I am a part of. I like the guy. I just need more info about him. He might actually be a better VP candidate than head of the ticket.

yeah, because we can't have any believers in office. that would totally ruin everything.

It would and has. :coffee3:

So why in your opinion would an atheist be a better president?

Just someone who doesn't push their beliefs on me.

(11-09-2014 10:12 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 08:50 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 05:58 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 12:53 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 12:50 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I don't think though that Mormons believe the earth is 6000 years old. I'm waiting to hear Carson answer the questions that will for sure be asked about this. It may well be that he does not subscribe to that tenant of the SDA like I don't subscribe to the "predestination" tenet of the Presbyterian faith that I am a part of. I like the guy. I just need more info about him. He might actually be a better VP candidate than head of the ticket.

yeah, because we can't have any believers in office. that would totally ruin everything.

It would and has.

So why in your opinion would an atheist be a better president?

Just someone who doesn't push their beliefs on me.

But that assumes that an atheist would not push his/her beliefs on you. IMO that's a bad assumption.

(11-07-2014 04:08 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 03:58 PM)ummechengr Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 03:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 03:01 PM)ummechengr Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 11:46 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Does he understand business and economics? He's worked in education for decades.

"Worked in Education".....He wasn't teaching underwater basket-weaving, he's a retired Pediatric Neurosurgeon. I'm sure you'd agree he could be someone to provide enlightened leadership as we see the implementation of ACA throughout the next few years....

Not when he'd likely do everything in his power to quash it.

Could it be that 'quash'ing it is the appropriate action to take?

Not like he's familiar with the subject or anything....being a Neurosurgeon and all....that's been teaching on the related subject for 'decades'...

Sure, if he's operating on my brain, he's familiar. Health care policy for the country is slightly a different matter.

Yeah, doctors never have to deal with declining reimbursement rates, or endlessly expanding regulatory requirements, or administrative pressures from the hospitals from which they operate...

Many doctors aren't 'exceptional' businessmen, which is why they often hire people who are. They certainly know when they are spending more time and energy meeting paperwork requirements and less time and energy treating patients. They certainly know when they are doing more and taking home less, or vice versa.

'health care policy' may well be beyond the capabilities of most physicians, but treating patients is certainly beyond the capability of most politicians (any one who doesn't have medical training).

I find it funny that the same people who don't trust physicians when it comes to healthcare policy, trust politicians when it comes to healthcare.

(11-07-2014 04:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 04:15 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 04:08 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Sure, if he's operating on my brain, he's familiar. Health care policy for the country is slightly a different matter.

Which is why we should rely on a community organizer to develop Insurance policy.

Pfft...he hardly developed the policy.

...and it shows.

(11-09-2014 10:30 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 10:12 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 08:50 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 05:58 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 12:53 PM)EagleX Wrote:  yeah, because we can't have any believers in office. that would totally ruin everything.

It would and has.

So why in your opinion would an atheist be a better president?

Just someone who doesn't push their beliefs on me.

But that assumes that an atheist would not push his/her beliefs on you. IMO that's a bad assumption.

I haven't met a public atheist yet who wasn't evangelical about their non-religion religion.

(11-09-2014 10:12 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 08:50 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 05:58 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 12:53 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 12:50 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I don't think though that Mormons believe the earth is 6000 years old. I'm waiting to hear Carson answer the questions that will for sure be asked about this. It may well be that he does not subscribe to that tenant of the SDA like I don't subscribe to the "predestination" tenet of the Presbyterian faith that I am a part of. I like the guy. I just need more info about him. He might actually be a better VP candidate than head of the ticket.

yeah, because we can't have any believers in office. that would totally ruin everything.

It would and has.

So why in your opinion would an atheist be a better president?

Just someone who doesn't push their beliefs on me.

I can't think of any president pushing religious beliefs on the public. Seems like pretty much an non -issue really.