(11-03-2014 11:53 AM)Check Yosef Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 11:50 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 11:46 AM)Check Yosef Wrote:  Honestly, geo south wins out, continues to show strong fan support, etc. I really could see them getting it waived, would be a very historic event but I don't understand the point of the 1st year in fbs transition, considering the new team is probably playing with a disadvantage, last years playoff ineligibility makes sense but the bowl one, no sense as far as I'm concerned


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Probably be some statement along the lines of im saying that because apparently app and geo south fans are in bed together. I don't think anyone wants to see a goat-gnat baby though, so I would hope at this point they realize we don't homer that much for each other


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(11-03-2014 12:09 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Interesting Question Arkstfan posed on our board earlier:

If CUSA needs to fill its backup and offers up La Tech, how does Shreveport respond? Could the I bowl be frustrated enough with Tech for ignoring them two years ago that they decide to force Tech into the CUSA bowl pool, take a weaker team and then go court the Cajuns to fill its open slot for ticket sales reasons?

I Bowl is a huge get for anyone this year. Its on ABC, which means millions more viewers potentially.

Just making sure you know. (You probably do.) AAC and C-USA have equal status at the I-Bowl this year. I don't know if the American will have extra, but if they do I-Bowl can choose them over C-USA.

(11-03-2014 12:32 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 12:09 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Interesting Question Arkstfan posed on our board earlier:

If CUSA needs to fill its backup and offers up La Tech, how does Shreveport respond? Could the I bowl be frustrated enough with Tech for ignoring them two years ago that they decide to force Tech into the CUSA bowl pool, take a weaker team and then go court the Cajuns to fill its open slot for ticket sales reasons?

I Bowl is a huge get for anyone this year. Its on ABC, which means millions more viewers potentially.

Just making sure you know. (You probably do.) AAC and C-USA have equal status at the I-Bowl this year. I don't know if the American will have extra, but if they do I-Bowl can choose them over C-USA.

I do, but the American is not likely to have extra. I think Tulane or someone would have to win out for it to happen.

Neither ACC or SEC is likely to cover this year.

I continue to stand by my prediction in the "Who will Georgia State get their first SBC win against?" thread---

Texas State wins one of the next 4 games (guessing South Alabama) to get to 6 wins. We go into the GAST game with a bowl invite on the line assuming we win. Bobcats play well in the first half but let the Panthers claw back into it and the Bobcats lose a heartbreaker in Atlanta. Ending the season, no bowlgame. Such is the life of a Bobcat fan. can I get an amen?

(11-03-2014 11:13 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  There is an interesting question about how the scenarios work out. Cajuns are pretty much locked in to the NO bowl assuming they don't have an epic collapse. Texas State is probably in the Weakest spot, because of the two teams they are battling with for the last two guaranteed bowl slots, one (USA) is from the backyard of the two bowls choosing, and the second (AState) has been bowling 3 straight years and proven their fans will travel.

If you are the Bobcats, your best scenario is figuring out how to win at least 7 games, and making sure one of those wins comes at South Alabama, which would force the Jags to beat AState or Navy (assuming they lose at SC) to get to 6-6. You would then likely cheer for them to beat Navy (Who must beat Two of GS, Army, and USA to get eligible) , which opens up the Armed Forces Bowl to take Texas State.

Arkansas State likely needs two wins to lock in a bowl. Thankfully for Red Wolves Fans, who should be very concerned about the struggling run defense, three of the last four are at home.

Massey says there will be 80 bowl eligible teams this year, meaning 4 would sit at home. However getting there involves several results that are not sure things (They have North Carolina winning out, and Western Kentucky winning three of four) Neither are certain to happen. As a league, we really should be cheering for our old friends in Bowling Green to lose at least two more because that would likely open up the Independence Bowl to take an SBC team. (ACC and SEC likely short bowl, AAC is not going to have enough to cover their backup, if WKU loses, CUSA doesn't cover their backup as well)

I'm going to put this out there, simply because it's a feeling I have. I understand the New Orleans Bowl people waited a long time to get the Cajuns in there, and the results have probably been about what they expected or at least hoped for. But I'm starting to get a feeling that they are wanting to give Arkansas State their chance and see what they can do. I'm thinking the Sun Belt office feels the same way. I don't have anything to substantiate this feeling, so it's likely I'm way off base. At some point, however, Arkansas State will deserve their chance to play in New Orleans and the Cajuns will have to show that they will bring people to another location.

(11-03-2014 12:07 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 11:46 AM)Check Yosef Wrote:  Honestly, geo south wins out, continues to show strong fan support, etc. I really could see them getting it waived, would be a very historic event but I don't understand the point of the 1st year in fbs transition, considering the new team is probably playing with a disadvantage, last years playoff ineligibility makes sense but the bowl one, no sense as far as I'm concerned


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Based on what precedence?

It's unprecedented, ncaa is about making money, to do that they want the best teams with the best fan bases, if they see a geo south team with a relatively good travel base and an undefeated in conference record with only 2 losses to ACC schools by slim margins I don't see them letting rules keep geo south out, as if the ncaa ever stood by their rules unless it benefits them.


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(11-03-2014 12:41 PM)lcitsh Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 11:13 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  There is an interesting question about how the scenarios work out. Cajuns are pretty much locked in to the NO bowl assuming they don't have an epic collapse. Texas State is probably in the Weakest spot, because of the two teams they are battling with for the last two guaranteed bowl slots, one (USA) is from the backyard of the two bowls choosing, and the second (AState) has been bowling 3 straight years and proven their fans will travel.

If you are the Bobcats, your best scenario is figuring out how to win at least 7 games, and making sure one of those wins comes at South Alabama, which would force the Jags to beat AState or Navy (assuming they lose at SC) to get to 6-6. You would then likely cheer for them to beat Navy (Who must beat Two of GS, Army, and USA to get eligible) , which opens up the Armed Forces Bowl to take Texas State.

Arkansas State likely needs two wins to lock in a bowl. Thankfully for Red Wolves Fans, who should be very concerned about the struggling run defense, three of the last four are at home.

Massey says there will be 80 bowl eligible teams this year, meaning 4 would sit at home. However getting there involves several results that are not sure things (They have North Carolina winning out, and Western Kentucky winning three of four) Neither are certain to happen. As a league, we really should be cheering for our old friends in Bowling Green to lose at least two more because that would likely open up the Independence Bowl to take an SBC team. (ACC and SEC likely short bowl, AAC is not going to have enough to cover their backup, if WKU loses, CUSA doesn't cover their backup as well)

I'm going to put this out there, simply because it's a feeling I have. I understand the New Orleans Bowl people waited a long time to get the Cajuns in there, and the results have probably been about what they expected or at least hoped for. But I'm starting to get a feeling that they are wanting to give Arkansas State their chance and see what they can do. I'm thinking the Sun Belt office feels the same way. I don't have anything to substantiate this feeling, so it's likely I'm way off base. At some point, however, Arkansas State will deserve their chance to play in New Orleans and the Cajuns will have to show that they will bring people to another location.

I can see that happening but only if the Cajuns get Mobile in exchange otherwise if it doesn't work out you risk pissing us off an we don't go back to NOB don't see that happening but throwing it out there.

(11-03-2014 11:50 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 11:46 AM)Check Yosef Wrote:  Honestly, geo south wins out, continues to show strong fan support, etc. I really could see them getting it waived, would be a very historic event but I don't understand the point of the 1st year in fbs transition, considering the new team is probably playing with a disadvantage, last years playoff ineligibility makes sense but the bowl one, no sense as far as I'm concerned


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How'd that attempt at snark work out for you?


If you win it out, I'd have no problem with you getting a bowl.

I think it would be malpractice if Benson didnt fight for you under those circumstances.

(11-03-2014 12:41 PM)lcitsh Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 11:13 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  There is an interesting question about how the scenarios work out. Cajuns are pretty much locked in to the NO bowl assuming they don't have an epic collapse. Texas State is probably in the Weakest spot, because of the two teams they are battling with for the last two guaranteed bowl slots, one (USA) is from the backyard of the two bowls choosing, and the second (AState) has been bowling 3 straight years and proven their fans will travel.

If you are the Bobcats, your best scenario is figuring out how to win at least 7 games, and making sure one of those wins comes at South Alabama, which would force the Jags to beat AState or Navy (assuming they lose at SC) to get to 6-6. You would then likely cheer for them to beat Navy (Who must beat Two of GS, Army, and USA to get eligible) , which opens up the Armed Forces Bowl to take Texas State.

Arkansas State likely needs two wins to lock in a bowl. Thankfully for Red Wolves Fans, who should be very concerned about the struggling run defense, three of the last four are at home.

Massey says there will be 80 bowl eligible teams this year, meaning 4 would sit at home. However getting there involves several results that are not sure things (They have North Carolina winning out, and Western Kentucky winning three of four) Neither are certain to happen. As a league, we really should be cheering for our old friends in Bowling Green to lose at least two more because that would likely open up the Independence Bowl to take an SBC team. (ACC and SEC likely short bowl, AAC is not going to have enough to cover their backup, if WKU loses, CUSA doesn't cover their backup as well)

I'm going to put this out there, simply because it's a feeling I have. I understand the New Orleans Bowl people waited a long time to get the Cajuns in there, and the results have probably been about what they expected or at least hoped for. But I'm starting to get a feeling that they are wanting to give Arkansas State their chance and see what they can do. I'm thinking the Sun Belt office feels the same way. I don't have anything to substantiate this feeling, so it's likely I'm way off base. At some point, however, Arkansas State will deserve their chance to play in New Orleans and the Cajuns will have to show that they will bring people to another location.

I've been a proponent all season that stAte or someone else enjoy the 10:30am start and trying to find a hotel room on Saints/Falcons weekend.

(11-03-2014 11:50 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 11:46 AM)Check Yosef Wrote:  Honestly, geo south wins out, continues to show strong fan support, etc. I really could see them getting it waived, would be a very historic event but I don't understand the point of the 1st year in fbs transition, considering the new team is probably playing with a disadvantage, last years playoff ineligibility makes sense but the bowl one, no sense as far as I'm concerned


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I'd love to see GaSouthern represent the Belt in a bowl game this year.

Was that the response you were expecting?

(11-03-2014 12:41 PM)lcitsh Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 11:13 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  There is an interesting question about how the scenarios work out. Cajuns are pretty much locked in to the NO bowl assuming they don't have an epic collapse. Texas State is probably in the Weakest spot, because of the two teams they are battling with for the last two guaranteed bowl slots, one (USA) is from the backyard of the two bowls choosing, and the second (AState) has been bowling 3 straight years and proven their fans will travel.

If you are the Bobcats, your best scenario is figuring out how to win at least 7 games, and making sure one of those wins comes at South Alabama, which would force the Jags to beat AState or Navy (assuming they lose at SC) to get to 6-6. You would then likely cheer for them to beat Navy (Who must beat Two of GS, Army, and USA to get eligible) , which opens up the Armed Forces Bowl to take Texas State.

Arkansas State likely needs two wins to lock in a bowl. Thankfully for Red Wolves Fans, who should be very concerned about the struggling run defense, three of the last four are at home.

Massey says there will be 80 bowl eligible teams this year, meaning 4 would sit at home. However getting there involves several results that are not sure things (They have North Carolina winning out, and Western Kentucky winning three of four) Neither are certain to happen. As a league, we really should be cheering for our old friends in Bowling Green to lose at least two more because that would likely open up the Independence Bowl to take an SBC team. (ACC and SEC likely short bowl, AAC is not going to have enough to cover their backup, if WKU loses, CUSA doesn't cover their backup as well)

I'm going to put this out there, simply because it's a feeling I have. I understand the New Orleans Bowl people waited a long time to get the Cajuns in there, and the results have probably been about what they expected or at least hoped for. But I'm starting to get a feeling that they are wanting to give Arkansas State their chance and see what they can do. I'm thinking the Sun Belt office feels the same way. I don't have anything to substantiate this feeling, so it's likely I'm way off base. At some point, however, Arkansas State will deserve their chance to play in New Orleans and the Cajuns will have to show that they will bring people to another location.

Its possible. The Kickoff time is a huge problem with New Orleans this year. I know our board has said we prefer Camelia at this moment because its far easier travel, and you don't have to pull the kids out of school for a day.

The thing to watch this year is that the MAC Champ is guaranteed to play in Mobile this year pretty much. Would the Cajuns jump at an opportunity to play the MAC Champ, or would they prefer what they know and a 4th or 5th place MWC team?

(11-03-2014 12:57 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 11:50 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 11:46 AM)Check Yosef Wrote:  Honestly, geo south wins out, continues to show strong fan support, etc. I really could see them getting it waived, would be a very historic event but I don't understand the point of the 1st year in fbs transition, considering the new team is probably playing with a disadvantage, last years playoff ineligibility makes sense but the bowl one, no sense as far as I'm concerned


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I'd love to see GaSouthern represent the Belt in a bowl game this year.

Was that the response you were expecting?

Nope - see breeding post


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(11-03-2014 12:09 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Interesting Question Arkstfan posed on our board earlier:

If CUSA needs to fill its backup and offers up La Tech, how does Shreveport respond? Could the I bowl be frustrated enough with Tech for ignoring them two years ago that they decide to force Tech into the CUSA bowl pool, take a weaker team and then go court the Cajuns to fill its open slot for ticket sales reasons?

I Bowl is a huge get for anyone this year. Its on ABC, which means millions more viewers potentially.

I recall reading recently on the Tech boards that some of their fans were concerned about the blow back from that incident possibly affecting the Indy Bowl's decision-making process as it related to them this year.

As an stAte fan, I have no desire for the New Orleans Bowl.

Horrible bowl. Horrible date. Horrible time.

No thanks.

(11-03-2014 12:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 12:41 PM)lcitsh Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 11:13 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  There is an interesting question about how the scenarios work out. Cajuns are pretty much locked in to the NO bowl assuming they don't have an epic collapse. Texas State is probably in the Weakest spot, because of the two teams they are battling with for the last two guaranteed bowl slots, one (USA) is from the backyard of the two bowls choosing, and the second (AState) has been bowling 3 straight years and proven their fans will travel.

If you are the Bobcats, your best scenario is figuring out how to win at least 7 games, and making sure one of those wins comes at South Alabama, which would force the Jags to beat AState or Navy (assuming they lose at SC) to get to 6-6. You would then likely cheer for them to beat Navy (Who must beat Two of GS, Army, and USA to get eligible) , which opens up the Armed Forces Bowl to take Texas State.

Arkansas State likely needs two wins to lock in a bowl. Thankfully for Red Wolves Fans, who should be very concerned about the struggling run defense, three of the last four are at home.

Massey says there will be 80 bowl eligible teams this year, meaning 4 would sit at home. However getting there involves several results that are not sure things (They have North Carolina winning out, and Western Kentucky winning three of four) Neither are certain to happen. As a league, we really should be cheering for our old friends in Bowling Green to lose at least two more because that would likely open up the Independence Bowl to take an SBC team. (ACC and SEC likely short bowl, AAC is not going to have enough to cover their backup, if WKU loses, CUSA doesn't cover their backup as well)

I'm going to put this out there, simply because it's a feeling I have. I understand the New Orleans Bowl people waited a long time to get the Cajuns in there, and the results have probably been about what they expected or at least hoped for. But I'm starting to get a feeling that they are wanting to give Arkansas State their chance and see what they can do. I'm thinking the Sun Belt office feels the same way. I don't have anything to substantiate this feeling, so it's likely I'm way off base. At some point, however, Arkansas State will deserve their chance to play in New Orleans and the Cajuns will have to show that they will bring people to another location.

Its possible. The Kickoff time is a huge problem with New Orleans this year. I know our board has said we prefer Camelia at this moment because its far easier travel, and you don't have to pull the kids out of school for a day.

The thing to watch this year is that the MAC Champ is guaranteed to play in Mobile this year pretty much. Would the Cajuns jump at an opportunity to play the MAC Champ, or would they prefer what they know and a 4th or 5th place MWC team?

With the distinct possibility that Air Force, who plays a similar style of ball that Georgia Southern does, is the likely team to be sent to New Orleans, it almost makes sense that the Cajuns would want to face them, just for the sake of experience. Yeah, morning games are tough, but a Mountain West opponent will carry greater weight than anyone in the MAC.

"you don't have to pull the kids out of school for a day."

Do you really still have classes going on the week of December 15-20? Camellia Bowl is the same day as New Orleans Bowl. Or is it that the new semester starts January 5?

ECU is finals 11-18th Dec with graduation on the 19th. Don't know what their schedule is like but it's possible.

(11-03-2014 01:19 PM)lcitsh Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 12:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 12:41 PM)lcitsh Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 11:13 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  There is an interesting question about how the scenarios work out. Cajuns are pretty much locked in to the NO bowl assuming they don't have an epic collapse. Texas State is probably in the Weakest spot, because of the two teams they are battling with for the last two guaranteed bowl slots, one (USA) is from the backyard of the two bowls choosing, and the second (AState) has been bowling 3 straight years and proven their fans will travel.

If you are the Bobcats, your best scenario is figuring out how to win at least 7 games, and making sure one of those wins comes at South Alabama, which would force the Jags to beat AState or Navy (assuming they lose at SC) to get to 6-6. You would then likely cheer for them to beat Navy (Who must beat Two of GS, Army, and USA to get eligible) , which opens up the Armed Forces Bowl to take Texas State.

Arkansas State likely needs two wins to lock in a bowl. Thankfully for Red Wolves Fans, who should be very concerned about the struggling run defense, three of the last four are at home.

Massey says there will be 80 bowl eligible teams this year, meaning 4 would sit at home. However getting there involves several results that are not sure things (They have North Carolina winning out, and Western Kentucky winning three of four) Neither are certain to happen. As a league, we really should be cheering for our old friends in Bowling Green to lose at least two more because that would likely open up the Independence Bowl to take an SBC team. (ACC and SEC likely short bowl, AAC is not going to have enough to cover their backup, if WKU loses, CUSA doesn't cover their backup as well)

I'm going to put this out there, simply because it's a feeling I have. I understand the New Orleans Bowl people waited a long time to get the Cajuns in there, and the results have probably been about what they expected or at least hoped for. But I'm starting to get a feeling that they are wanting to give Arkansas State their chance and see what they can do. I'm thinking the Sun Belt office feels the same way. I don't have anything to substantiate this feeling, so it's likely I'm way off base. At some point, however, Arkansas State will deserve their chance to play in New Orleans and the Cajuns will have to show that they will bring people to another location.

Its possible. The Kickoff time is a huge problem with New Orleans this year. I know our board has said we prefer Camelia at this moment because its far easier travel, and you don't have to pull the kids out of school for a day.

The thing to watch this year is that the MAC Champ is guaranteed to play in Mobile this year pretty much. Would the Cajuns jump at an opportunity to play the MAC Champ, or would they prefer what they know and a 4th or 5th place MWC team?

With the distinct possibility that Air Force, who plays a similar style of ball that Georgia Southern does, is the likely team to be sent to New Orleans, it almost makes sense that the Cajuns would want to face them, just for the sake of experience. Yeah, morning games are tough, but a Mountain West opponent will carry greater weight than anyone in the MAC.

"you don't have to pull the kids out of school for a day."

Do you really still have classes going on the week of December 15-20? Camellia Bowl is the same day as New Orleans Bowl. Or is it that the new semester starts January 5?

School runs here through Dec 19th. Public Schools do at least. It then starts back the day after the Go Daddy Bowl. University lets out earlier, but we're not worried about selling tickets to college students.

Because the Cameilia Bowl starts at 7pm, and its just a 6 hour drive, Jonesboro residents could potentially leave at 8am the day of the game, spend one night in a hotel, and get back to town on Sunday without missing a day of work, and not missing that problematic last day before Christmas Break where some evil teachers like to give tests.

There is basically no chance of that happening in New Orleans, meaning Arkansas State has to go back to the Jonesboro Public School system like the last 3 years and beg for the schools to forget to check attendance that first day back from break so Kids could go to the game and parents don't have to fret about unexcused absences and the like.

It just saves a lot of trouble.

School attendance versus a bowl game?

Don't these parents and public school systems have their priorities straight?

(11-03-2014 01:07 PM)asuwon Wrote:  As an stAte fan, I have no desire for the New Orleans Bowl.

Horrible bowl. Horrible date. Horrible time.

No thanks.

Awesome date for me but terrible time who gets up in New Orleans at 10 after a Friday night of parting. I guess the time is set so they could have the dome prepared for the Saints/Falcons game.

(11-03-2014 02:17 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 01:07 PM)asuwon Wrote:  As an stAte fan, I have no desire for the New Orleans Bowl.

Horrible bowl. Horrible date. Horrible time.

No thanks.

Awesome date for me but terrible time who gets up in New Orleans at 10 after a Friday night of parting. I guess the time is set so they could have the dome prepared for the Saints/Falcons game.

I'd say if you parted the night before, it wouldn't matter what time the game started. Ask your wife about that.