(10-07-2014 07:37 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  Do you guys really have a 234 lb NG?

Odom is a DE that has just recently been moved in there for depth. We rotate a bunch of players on the DL, including a few freshmen. I think Rosser, the main guy, has been dinged up a little.

DC sounds excited when talking about Odom inside - I think maybe they try to use him more in there on passing situations.

DL has been a pleasant surprise for A-State this year - it was an area of considerable concern going into the season, having lost what little depth he had to the death of Markel Owens after Carrethers was drafted by the Chargers.

Larry Lacewell liked using the smaller, quicker defensive lines as well.

(10-07-2014 08:25 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 02:28 PM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  I think both Texas State and South Alabama would be good candidates (50/50) to beat Arkansas State if they were playing at home. Playing both TXST and USA at ASU would give ASU more than enough edge to win. However, I think Louisiana has a good chance to beat ASU if they play up to their potential.

stAte plays Texas State in San Marvelous, not in Arkansas.

They do? Then I think TXST has the best chance of derailing ASU.

(10-07-2014 09:11 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 07:37 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  Do you guys really have a 234 lb NG?

Odom is a DE that has just recently been moved in there for depth. We rotate a bunch of players on the DL, including a few freshmen. I think Rosser, the main guy, has been dinged up a little.

DC sounds excited when talking about Odom inside - I think maybe they try to use him more in there on passing situations.

DL has been a pleasant surprise for A-State this year - it was an area of considerable concern going into the season, having lost what little depth he had to the death of Markel Owens after Carrethers was drafted by the Chargers.

Larry Lacewell liked using the smaller, quicker defensive lines as well.

Whatever happened to Lacewell?

(10-07-2014 09:22 PM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 09:11 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 07:37 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  Do you guys really have a 234 lb NG?

Odom is a DE that has just recently been moved in there for depth. We rotate a bunch of players on the DL, including a few freshmen. I think Rosser, the main guy, has been dinged up a little.

DC sounds excited when talking about Odom inside - I think maybe they try to use him more in there on passing situations.

DL has been a pleasant surprise for A-State this year - it was an area of considerable concern going into the season, having lost what little depth he had to the death of Markel Owens after Carrethers was drafted by the Chargers.

Larry Lacewell liked using the smaller, quicker defensive lines as well.

Whatever happened to Lacewell?

He's running around the Jonesboro area a bunch. Coached one of the Spring Game teams, usually goes to home games.

(10-07-2014 09:22 PM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 09:11 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 07:37 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  Do you guys really have a 234 lb NG?

Odom is a DE that has just recently been moved in there for depth. We rotate a bunch of players on the DL, including a few freshmen. I think Rosser, the main guy, has been dinged up a little.

DC sounds excited when talking about Odom inside - I think maybe they try to use him more in there on passing situations.

DL has been a pleasant surprise for A-State this year - it was an area of considerable concern going into the season, having lost what little depth he had to the death of Markel Owens after Carrethers was drafted by the Chargers.

Larry Lacewell liked using the smaller, quicker defensive lines as well.

Whatever happened to Lacewell?

Still telling stories and being Larry Lacewell.

(10-07-2014 09:33 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 09:22 PM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 09:11 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 07:37 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  Do you guys really have a 234 lb NG?

Odom is a DE that has just recently been moved in there for depth. We rotate a bunch of players on the DL, including a few freshmen. I think Rosser, the main guy, has been dinged up a little.

DC sounds excited when talking about Odom inside - I think maybe they try to use him more in there on passing situations.

DL has been a pleasant surprise for A-State this year - it was an area of considerable concern going into the season, having lost what little depth he had to the death of Markel Owens after Carrethers was drafted by the Chargers.

Larry Lacewell liked using the smaller, quicker defensive lines as well.

Whatever happened to Lacewell?

Still telling stories and being Larry Lacewell.

That too.

He enjoys being a program ambassador of sorts. Fans love him.

Lacewell's Bag O Bling is something to behold, national championship rings, super bowl rings, conference title rings.

As to small defensive linemen, you have to make choices
1. You can try to sign the monsters who can fly to the ball that even the P5 schools find to be in short supply.
2. You can sign big strong guys who aren't very mobile.
3. You can sign smaller faster guys with strength.

If you are playing in a conference where people run between the tackles and spread the field vertically passing and can't get the dream players, you go for big guys. If you play in a conference where people spread the field horizontally and need guys who can get outside to cut off a sweep, or a screen or deal with a quick slant in, you sign the guy with wheels and don't worry about size if you can't sign the dream players.

(10-07-2014 08:24 PM)swampbear Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 07:54 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  Do you guys really have a 234 lb NG?

At times they do .

They also have a 224 de, and most think that one of their starting lbs is more like 200 than 214. They are also fast, mean and just nasty (their coach just says they are violent) and they are the best defense in the SBC. No other team is even close. To bar a phrase from one of their former coaches 'they will knock snot bubbles out of you". It is their speed that makes them special, and they never ever get tired. The other teams just raise the white flag at some point in the 2nd half.

If their qb ever decides to stop trying to help the other teams they are playing out, how much better they are than the rest of the SBC (well maybe I'll exclude GoSo )will be more evident. Their offense is actually more talented than their defense(see Malzahn, Freeze and Harsin were noted as offensive gurus, and this team is loaded with their players) .

Nice to have a team in the Conference from Mt. Olympus...

(10-07-2014 08:26 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:24 PM)swampbear Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 07:54 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  Do you guys really have a 234 lb NG?

At times they do .

They also have a 224 de, and most think that one of their starting lbs is more like 200 than 214. They are also fast, mean and just nasty (their coach just says they are violent) and they are the best defense in the SBC. No other team is even close. To bar a phrase from one of their former coaches 'they will knock snot bubbles out of you". It is their speed that makes them special, and they never ever get tired. The other teams just raise the white flag at some point in the 2nd half.

If their qb ever decides to stop trying to help the other teams they are playing out, how much better they are than the rest of the SBC (well maybe I'll exclude GoSo )will be more evident. Their offense is actually more talented than their defense(see Malzahn, Freeze and Harsin were noted as offensive gurus, and this team is loaded with their players) .

Nice to have a team in the Conference from Mt. Olympus...

We were cast aside from Mount Olympus some years ago, and are considered mortals, but we do maintain our God like strength.

Serious note...ignore Seminole Longhorn . He aggravates our own fans as much as he does other school fans.

They are about as knowledgeable about ASU as the fans here are, and really sorry what happens in the fall does not match the fantasy world you guys create in the off season.

Just a reminder that my comments are based ONLY on the FACT that ASU has a lot more talent on their roster than the other SBC teams, but that has been the case the last few years, and they lost a few SBC games.

The only reason their talent advantage does not show up more is they are constantly breaking in new coaches.

Even with the coaching changes there is no reason they should lose a game to any SBC team, and that will be more true in the future than it has been the last few years.

(10-08-2014 07:43 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:24 PM)swampbear Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 07:54 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  Do you guys really have a 234 lb NG?

At times they do .

They also have a 224 de, and most think that one of their starting lbs is more like 200 than 214. They are also fast, mean and just nasty (their coach just says they are violent) and they are the best defense in the SBC. No other team is even close. To bar a phrase from one of their former coaches 'they will knock snot bubbles out of you". It is their speed that makes them special, and they never ever get tired. The other teams just raise the white flag at some point in the 2nd half.

If their qb ever decides to stop trying to help the other teams they are playing out, how much better they are than the rest of the SBC (well maybe I'll exclude GoSo )will be more evident. Their offense is actually more talented than their defense(see Malzahn, Freeze and Harsin were noted as offensive gurus, and this team is loaded with their players) .

Nice to have a team in the Conference from Mt. Olympus...

(10-07-2014 08:26 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:24 PM)swampbear Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 07:54 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  Do you guys really have a 234 lb NG?

At times they do .

They also have a 224 de, and most think that one of their starting lbs is more like 200 than 214. They are also fast, mean and just nasty (their coach just says they are violent) and they are the best defense in the SBC. No other team is even close. To bar a phrase from one of their former coaches 'they will knock snot bubbles out of you". It is their speed that makes them special, and they never ever get tired. The other teams just raise the white flag at some point in the 2nd half.

If their qb ever decides to stop trying to help the other teams they are playing out, how much better they are than the rest of the SBC (well maybe I'll exclude GoSo )will be more evident. Their offense is actually more talented than their defense(see Malzahn, Freeze and Harsin were noted as offensive gurus, and this team is loaded with their players) .

Nice to have a team in the Conference from Mt. Olympus...

We were cast aside from Mount Olympus some years ago, and are considered mortals, but we do maintain our God like strength.

Serious note...ignore Seminole Longhorn . He aggravates our own fans as much as he does other school fans.

They are about as knowledgeable about ASU as the fans here are, and really sorry what happens in the fall does not match the fantasy world you guys create in the off season.

Just a reminder that my comments are based ONLY on the FACT that ASU has a lot more talent on their roster than the other SBC teams, but that has been the case the last few years, and they lost a few SBC games.

The only reason their talent advantage does not show up more is they are constantly breaking in new coaches.

Even with the coaching changes there is no reason they should lose a game to any SBC team, and that will be more true in the future than it has been the last few years.

I asked my friend boom Howard he said.
That dang ol team is good its like click click click touchdown.

(10-08-2014 07:43 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:24 PM)swampbear Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 07:54 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  Do you guys really have a 234 lb NG?

At times they do .

They also have a 224 de, and most think that one of their starting lbs is more like 200 than 214. They are also fast, mean and just nasty (their coach just says they are violent) and they are the best defense in the SBC. No other team is even close. To bar a phrase from one of their former coaches 'they will knock snot bubbles out of you". It is their speed that makes them special, and they never ever get tired. The other teams just raise the white flag at some point in the 2nd half.

If their qb ever decides to stop trying to help the other teams they are playing out, how much better they are than the rest of the SBC (well maybe I'll exclude GoSo )will be more evident. Their offense is actually more talented than their defense(see Malzahn, Freeze and Harsin were noted as offensive gurus, and this team is loaded with their players) .

Nice to have a team in the Conference from Mt. Olympus...

(10-07-2014 08:26 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:24 PM)swampbear Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 07:54 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  Do you guys really have a 234 lb NG?

At times they do .

They also have a 224 de, and most think that one of their starting lbs is more like 200 than 214. They are also fast, mean and just nasty (their coach just says they are violent) and they are the best defense in the SBC. No other team is even close. To bar a phrase from one of their former coaches 'they will knock snot bubbles out of you". It is their speed that makes them special, and they never ever get tired. The other teams just raise the white flag at some point in the 2nd half.

If their qb ever decides to stop trying to help the other teams they are playing out, how much better they are than the rest of the SBC (well maybe I'll exclude GoSo )will be more evident. Their offense is actually more talented than their defense(see Malzahn, Freeze and Harsin were noted as offensive gurus, and this team is loaded with their players) .

Nice to have a team in the Conference from Mt. Olympus...

We were cast aside from Mount Olympus some years ago, and are considered mortals, but we do maintain our God like strength.

Serious note...ignore Seminole Longhorn . He aggravates our own fans as much as he does other school fans.

They are about as knowledgeable about ASU as the fans here are, and really sorry what happens in the fall does not match the fantasy world you guys create in the off season.

Just a reminder that my comments are based ONLY on the FACT that ASU has a lot more talent on their roster than the other SBC teams, but that has been the case the last few years, and they lost a few SBC games.

The only reason their talent advantage does not show up more is they are constantly breaking in new coaches.

Even with the coaching changes there is no reason they should lose a game to any SBC team, and that will be more true in the future than it has been the last few years.

You need to inform the nfl of this huge talent gap as it has not been evidenced in the nfl draft. Ga Southern has led the SBC the past two seasons with three players drafted and the highest pick.

Meet Seminole Indian GS fans. He makes Talon look like a sane Fortune 500 VP.

(10-08-2014 04:58 PM)panama Wrote:  Meet Seminole Indian GS fans. He makes Talon look like a sane Fortune 500 VP.

Lol

(10-08-2014 04:58 PM)panama Wrote:  Meet Seminole Indian GS fans. He makes Talon look like a sane Fortune 500 VP.

Just a reminder that Seminole is not an Arkansas State fan, and has not attended a football game here in like 20 years, despite living in Jonesboro.

We don't claim him.

(10-08-2014 04:53 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 07:43 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:24 PM)swampbear Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 07:54 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 02:55 PM)panama Wrote:  Do you guys really have a 234 lb NG?

At times they do .

They also have a 224 de, and most think that one of their starting lbs is more like 200 than 214. They are also fast, mean and just nasty (their coach just says they are violent) and they are the best defense in the SBC. No other team is even close. To bar a phrase from one of their former coaches 'they will knock snot bubbles out of you". It is their speed that makes them special, and they never ever get tired. The other teams just raise the white flag at some point in the 2nd half.

If their qb ever decides to stop trying to help the other teams they are playing out, how much better they are than the rest of the SBC (well maybe I'll exclude GoSo )will be more evident. Their offense is actually more talented than their defense(see Malzahn, Freeze and Harsin were noted as offensive gurus, and this team is loaded with their players) .

Nice to have a team in the Conference from Mt. Olympus...

(10-07-2014 08:26 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:24 PM)swampbear Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 07:54 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  At times they do .

They also have a 224 de, and most think that one of their starting lbs is more like 200 than 214. They are also fast, mean and just nasty (their coach just says they are violent) and they are the best defense in the SBC. No other team is even close. To bar a phrase from one of their former coaches 'they will knock snot bubbles out of you". It is their speed that makes them special, and they never ever get tired. The other teams just raise the white flag at some point in the 2nd half.

If their qb ever decides to stop trying to help the other teams they are playing out, how much better they are than the rest of the SBC (well maybe I'll exclude GoSo )will be more evident. Their offense is actually more talented than their defense(see Malzahn, Freeze and Harsin were noted as offensive gurus, and this team is loaded with their players) .

Nice to have a team in the Conference from Mt. Olympus...

We were cast aside from Mount Olympus some years ago, and are considered mortals, but we do maintain our God like strength.

Serious note...ignore Seminole Longhorn . He aggravates our own fans as much as he does other school fans.

They are about as knowledgeable about ASU as the fans here are, and really sorry what happens in the fall does not match the fantasy world you guys create in the off season.

Just a reminder that my comments are based ONLY on the FACT that ASU has a lot more talent on their roster than the other SBC teams, but that has been the case the last few years, and they lost a few SBC games.

The only reason their talent advantage does not show up more is they are constantly breaking in new coaches.

Even with the coaching changes there is no reason they should lose a game to any SBC team, and that will be more true in the future than it has been the last few years.

You need to inform the nfl of this huge talent gap as it has not been evidenced in the nfl draft. Ga Southern has led the SBC the past two seasons with three players drafted and the highest pick.

That still does not change the fact that ASU has the most talented roster of players in the SBC, and that is why i say they will be the SBC Champion. I expect them to be better next year.

While I did appreciate those that took the time to check and see if players i had questions about were on their roster, for the most part don't care what posters here think, I don't care that other teams are picked to win the SBC.

As far as the other things that go into winning I will admit that I really don't pay attention to those things, or even care, because the more talented team will win most games.

The constant coaching changes are there only reason they have done better, and they have actually done reasonably well. The transition this year appears to be going a little better than last year but this is a much younger team.

(10-08-2014 04:58 PM)panama Wrote:  Meet Seminole Indian GS fans. He makes Talon look like a sane Fortune 500 VP.

It's amazing we're not beating SBC teams by 100 considering the amount of talent (he thinks) we have on the roster.

(10-08-2014 06:58 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 04:58 PM)panama Wrote:  Meet Seminole Indian GS fans. He makes Talon look like a sane Fortune 500 VP.

It's amazing we're not beating SBC teams by 100 considering the amount of talent (he thinks) we have on the roster.

I simply said they had more talent than any SBC team, but I am surprised they lose games to SBC teams. Again I attribute that to the constant coaching changes.

Hopefully they will have the same staff next year, but I still don't expect them to lose to a SBC team between now and then, because they have more talent, and for no other reason.

(10-08-2014 07:13 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 06:58 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 04:58 PM)panama Wrote:  Meet Seminole Indian GS fans. He makes Talon look like a sane Fortune 500 VP.

It's amazing we're not beating SBC teams by 100 considering the amount of talent (he thinks) we have on the roster.

I simply said they had more talent than any SBC team, but I am surprised they lose games to SBC teams. Again I attribute that to the constant coaching changes.

Hopefully they will have the same staff next year, but I still don't expect them to lose to a SBC team between now and then, because they simply are better than the other SBC teams.

Did somebody bump a thread from last year? This seems familiar.

(10-08-2014 07:13 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 06:58 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 04:58 PM)panama Wrote:  Meet Seminole Indian GS fans. He makes Talon look like a sane Fortune 500 VP.

It's amazing we're not beating SBC teams by 100 considering the amount of talent (he thinks) we have on the roster.

I simply said they had more talent than any SBC team, but I am surprised they lose games to SBC teams. Again I attribute that to the constant coaching changes.

Hopefully they will have the same staff next year, but I still don't expect them to lose to a SBC team between now and then, because they have more talent, and for no other reason.

Let me get this straight. Because of the talent, right?

(10-08-2014 07:16 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 07:13 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 06:58 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 04:58 PM)panama Wrote:  Meet Seminole Indian GS fans. He makes Talon look like a sane Fortune 500 VP.

It's amazing we're not beating SBC teams by 100 considering the amount of talent (he thinks) we have on the roster.

I simply said they had more talent than any SBC team, but I am surprised they lose games to SBC teams. Again I attribute that to the constant coaching changes.

Hopefully they will have the same staff next year, but I still don't expect them to lose to a SBC team between now and then, because they simply are better than the other SBC teams.

Did somebody bump a thread from last year? This seems familiar.

I hope it is similar to the last 3-4 years, and you guys are just as offended, although you have slacked off on the name calling.

I actually enjoy the fact the ASU fans constantly tell everyone to ignore my post because they don't claim me as a fan, because i will not attend their games. I have no interest in their or other teams games just the talent on their roster.

Does not bother me because i'm not a fan of any team. If GaSo has the most talented roster next year I will pick them regardless of who is picked by everyone else.

(10-08-2014 07:13 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 06:58 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 04:58 PM)panama Wrote:  Meet Seminole Indian GS fans. He makes Talon look like a sane Fortune 500 VP.

It's amazing we're not beating SBC teams by 100 considering the amount of talent (he thinks) we have on the roster.

I simply said they had more talent than any SBC team, but I am surprised they lose games to SBC teams. Again I attribute that to the constant coaching changes.

Hopefully they will have the same staff next year, but I still don't expect them to lose to a SBC team between now and then, because they have more talent, and for no other reason.

Gotta believe that a guy who roots for Texas is an Arkansas State expert.