(10-08-2014 03:57 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 03:44 PM)eagle9098 Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 01:27 PM)panama Wrote:  I dont think that its hurting us at all. Atlanta is our campus. A lot of kids are blown away by being in the middle of everything. The Turner Field campus is just going add to that just that much more.

I dont have stats just basing my opinion on my knowledge of being a former college player myself and the fact that I have about 10 friends who coach high school in the state of Ga. Its just something I spend alot of time around, recruiting, talking to college coaches ect. I talk to them about things like this and follow recruiting in the state very close. I just believe that more kids will choose a more traditional campus setting, like Georgia, Clemson, Auburn, than that of Ga Tech or Ga state, or Kennessaw. Im talking settings here not programs. GS campus is very similar in size to Clemson plus its still growing fast. I think you are going to lose a few guys just on the idea that they wont want to go to college in a large downtown setting like Atlanta. Some will choose to come there for that reason but more will not. Again its just my opinion. That will be one of the challenges at Ga state in recruiting.

Will come down to wins and facilities. For every kid who wants a pastoral setting there will be one who loves bright lights and skyscrapers. There are quite a few city schools not being hurt recruiting wise by being in big cities. I dont think it will hurt us any more than Houston or USC or Washington or Temple. Will some kids come to a big city campus and immediately not like it absolutely. Will some kids go visit a small town and not want to be in a "slow" environment? Absolutely. Ultimately though I think a lot of local kids are used to living in Atlanta and the fast pace and will be drawn to a great national research university and I think we can get enough of those kids.

I grew up in the stone mountain area before moving when I was about 13. You said what I said although I will just say again that yes there will be kids that want the city but MORE wont. The choice of players, unless scholarships are limited to him, will be more traditional than the city atmosphere. Yeah you have kids that like that, my point is though that when it comes down to it and a kid has a choice, more of them are going to choose Auburn over Ga Tech, even if Tech were a power that AU is consistently. You can bet those other schools you listed are hurt by their locations, all but USC, their a different situation and so is California.

(10-09-2014 10:17 AM)eagle9098 Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 03:57 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 03:44 PM)eagle9098 Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 01:27 PM)panama Wrote:  I dont think that its hurting us at all. Atlanta is our campus. A lot of kids are blown away by being in the middle of everything. The Turner Field campus is just going add to that just that much more.

I dont have stats just basing my opinion on my knowledge of being a former college player myself and the fact that I have about 10 friends who coach high school in the state of Ga. Its just something I spend alot of time around, recruiting, talking to college coaches ect. I talk to them about things like this and follow recruiting in the state very close. I just believe that more kids will choose a more traditional campus setting, like Georgia, Clemson, Auburn, than that of Ga Tech or Ga state, or Kennessaw. Im talking settings here not programs. GS campus is very similar in size to Clemson plus its still growing fast. I think you are going to lose a few guys just on the idea that they wont want to go to college in a large downtown setting like Atlanta. Some will choose to come there for that reason but more will not. Again its just my opinion. That will be one of the challenges at Ga state in recruiting.

Will come down to wins and facilities. For every kid who wants a pastoral setting there will be one who loves bright lights and skyscrapers. There are quite a few city schools not being hurt recruiting wise by being in big cities. I dont think it will hurt us any more than Houston or USC or Washington or Temple. Will some kids come to a big city campus and immediately not like it absolutely. Will some kids go visit a small town and not want to be in a "slow" environment? Absolutely. Ultimately though I think a lot of local kids are used to living in Atlanta and the fast pace and will be drawn to a great national research university and I think we can get enough of those kids.

I grew up in the stone mountain area before moving when I was about 13. You said what I said although I will just say again that yes there will be kids that want the city but MORE wont. The choice of players, unless scholarships are limited to him, will be more traditional than the city atmosphere. Yeah you have kids that like that, my point is though that when it comes down to it and a kid has a choice, more of them are going to choose Auburn over Ga Tech, even if Tech were a power that AU is consistently. You can bet those other schools you listed are hurt by their locations, all but USC, their a different situation and so is California.

That certainly isnt born out with actual statistics. In fact when we actually have had a kid not want to come to GSU because of location its actually called out because it doesn't happen often. As for those other schools, USF led the AAC recruiting rankings last year wand was followed in order by UCF, Cincinnati, Temple and Houston. ECU and UConn the more traditional schools were 6th and 11th respectively. Ultimately its about who the coach is, what are the facilities like, what is the staff like, what are the academics like, can they get me to the next level?

(10-09-2014 10:29 AM)panama Wrote:  That certainly isnt born out with actual statistics. In fact when we actually have had a kid not want to come to GSU because of location its actually called out because it doesn't happen often. As for those other schools, USF led the AAC recruiting rankings last year wand was followed in order by UCF, Cincinnati, Temple and Houston. ECU and UConn the more traditional schools were 6th and 11th respectively. Ultimately its about who the coach is, what are the facilities like, what is the staff like, what are the academics like, can they get me to the next level?

Since recruiting services have limited resources it could be that a player from Bugtussle is as good or better than a player from Atlanta but hasn't been as closely reviewed.

In AAC everyone is offering a fairly urban experience except ECU, Tulsa and Navy.

In the ACC last year, the top three teams were small market. Big XII champ was small market and two of the top four small market. Big Ten champ was a smaller market and four of the five to finish above .500 in league play were small market. Only 5 of the 14 CUSA can be deemed smaller market but the smaller market but accounted for a division champ and 2 of the six to go 6-2 or better in league play two more while in large markets are actually suburban locations. Both MAC divisional champs were well removed from central cities. Both MWC divisional champs were smaller market and only one large market was in the top four. In the Pac-12 two of three taking a share of a divisional title were large market. All three taking an SEC title or share of a title were small market. No large market team has taken a share of the Sun Belt since 2010.

I don't see any inherent advantage in an urban campus except that it is an alternative for those who don't want the more traditional feel.

Our coaches laugh about how some of our recruits think Jonesboro is really big, so it becomes a matter of perspective.

Conversely I dont see any disadvantage. My point is there is going to be a small minority that freak out when they hear traffic outside their dorm room or hear someone was robbed a bloc away just as there will be a small minority who freak out when they realize they are in west bumble and the big thing to do in town is to go to" the mall" because there is only one. 90% of players are going to have 5 to 10 other criteria that are more important.