http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-v...nt-n215451

Quote:The first patient to be diagnosed with Ebola outside of Africa during the ongoing epidemic is being treated at a Dallas hospital. Federal and state health officials say the patient traveled from Liberia on Sept. 19. Here's what we know about him and the risk to Americans:
Where did he come from?

The patient came from Liberia. He left Monrovia Sept. 19 and arrived in the United States Sept 20. Health officials won’t give many details about the patient, but Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Dr. Thomas Frieden says he was visiting relatives who live in the United States.

I really dislike the fact that they are not telling the people on the plane that they may have flown with somebody who has the disease.... Seriously if they told me today I would go live in a hotel room away from my wife and kids for a week....

I know they say that solid contact is needed but there has never been an outbreak on this scale. How much data do we have on the communicability. Two weeks ago scientist were saying if we did not get this in hand it might mutate now it's "Don't worry"....

I'm not that concerned. If I am wrong and it starts spreading, I'll change my tune.

Because they've been told what to say so we don't panic and go into a frenzy. These people still deserve to know though. Apparently this guy was a world traveler too.

(10-01-2014 09:46 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I'm not that concerned. If I am wrong and it starts spreading, I'll change my tune.

I'm not panicking either... I'd just want to know if I was next to the guy on the plane. I can do my job from anywhere and a week of motel tv and internet would be a small price to pay to be sure I was not bringing that crap into my home.

(10-01-2014 09:48 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Apparently this guy was a world traveler too.

They said he was here visiting family but if he is a world traveler that means he might have money. If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus they might just make a break for one of the nations where you have the best chance of surviving it...

(10-01-2014 09:53 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:48 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Apparently this guy was a world traveler too.

They said he was here visiting family but if he is a world traveler that means he might have money. If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus they might just make a break for one of the nations where you have the best chance of surviving it...

that notion has already been disproven

(10-01-2014 09:57 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:53 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:48 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Apparently this guy was a world traveler too.

They said he was here visiting family but if he is a world traveler that means he might have money. If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus they might just make a break for one of the nations where you have the best chance of surviving it...

that notion has already been disproven

1 - I suggest you look up the word "might"
2 - How has it been disproven?

(10-01-2014 09:59 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:57 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:53 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:48 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Apparently this guy was a world traveler too.

They said he was here visiting family but if he is a world traveler that means he might have money. If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus they might just make a break for one of the nations where you have the best chance of surviving it...

that notion has already been disproven

1 - I suggest you look up the word "might"
2 - How has it been disproven?

The CDC says that he didn't display symptoms until after he entered the country.

That region won't let anyone that is displaying symptoms to hop on an airplane

he was already staying in the US long enough to make it highly unlikely that he left because he thought he had the disease.

(10-01-2014 10:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:59 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:57 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:53 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:48 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Apparently this guy was a world traveler too.

They said he was here visiting family but if he is a world traveler that means he might have money. If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus they might just make a break for one of the nations where you have the best chance of surviving it...

that notion has already been disproven

1 - I suggest you look up the word "might"
2 - How has it been disproven?

The CDC says that he didn't display symptoms until after he entered the country.

That region won't let anyone that is displaying symptoms to hop on an airplane

he was already staying in the US long enough to make it highly unlikely that he left because he thought he had the disease.

You're logic is weak son...

1 - I said exposed, not ill. "If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus"...
2 - He started showing symptoms after 4 days in the US that means his exposure could have come either the day before departure (which would make it unlikely that was the motivation) or up to 6 days before leaving (which could make it more likely).

He left Monrovia Sept. 19 and arrived in the United States Sept 20. First presented with symptoms on the 23rd, went to the hospital on the 24th... 10 day incubation of the virus means he could have been exposed as early as the 13th...

So tell me, what's been proven?

(10-01-2014 10:09 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:59 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:57 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:53 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  They said he was here visiting family but if he is a world traveler that means he might have money. If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus they might just make a break for one of the nations where you have the best chance of surviving it...

that notion has already been disproven

1 - I suggest you look up the word "might"
2 - How has it been disproven?

The CDC says that he didn't display symptoms until after he entered the country.

That region won't let anyone that is displaying symptoms to hop on an airplane

he was already staying in the US long enough to make it highly unlikely that he left because he thought he had the disease.

You're logic is weak son...

1 - I said exposed, not ill. "If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus"...
2 - He started showing symptoms after 4 days in the US that means his exposure could have come either the day before departure (which would make it unlikely that was the motivation) or up to 6 days before leaving (which could make it more likely).

He left Monrovia Sept. 19 and arrived in the United States Sept 20. First presented with symptoms on the 23rd, went to the hospital on the 24th... 10 day incubation of the virus means he could have been exposed as early as the 13th...

So tell me, what's been proven?

you just proved my point.

(10-01-2014 09:53 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:48 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Apparently this guy was a world traveler too.

They said he was here visiting family but if he is a world traveler that means he might have money. If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus they might just make a break for one of the nations where you have the best chance of surviving it...

That makes sense... Especially if he has money, because what better nation to take care of you than the one that just cured two people...

(10-01-2014 10:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:09 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:59 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:57 AM)john01992 Wrote:  that notion has already been disproven

1 - I suggest you look up the word "might"
2 - How has it been disproven?

The CDC says that he didn't display symptoms until after he entered the country.

That region won't let anyone that is displaying symptoms to hop on an airplane

he was already staying in the US long enough to make it highly unlikely that he left because he thought he had the disease.

You're logic is weak son...

1 - I said exposed, not ill. "If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus"...
2 - He started showing symptoms after 4 days in the US that means his exposure could have come either the day before departure (which would make it unlikely that was the motivation) or up to 6 days before leaving (which could make it more likely).

He left Monrovia Sept. 19 and arrived in the United States Sept 20. First presented with symptoms on the 23rd, went to the hospital on the 24th... 10 day incubation of the virus means he could have been exposed as early as the 13th...

So tell me, what's been proven?

you just proved my point.

What he just said proves that your disproved theory is false. How are you missing that?

(10-01-2014 10:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:09 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:59 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:57 AM)john01992 Wrote:  that notion has already been disproven

1 - I suggest you look up the word "might"
2 - How has it been disproven?

The CDC says that he didn't display symptoms until after he entered the country.

That region won't let anyone that is displaying symptoms to hop on an airplane

he was already staying in the US long enough to make it highly unlikely that he left because he thought he had the disease.

You're logic is weak son...

1 - I said exposed, not ill. "If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus"...
2 - He started showing symptoms after 4 days in the US that means his exposure could have come either the day before departure (which would make it unlikely that was the motivation) or up to 6 days before leaving (which could make it more likely).

He left Monrovia Sept. 19 and arrived in the United States Sept 20. First presented with symptoms on the 23rd, went to the hospital on the 24th... 10 day incubation of the virus means he could have been exposed as early as the 13th...

So tell me, what's been proven?

you just proved my point.

Quick question... Seriously... Do you know what exposed means?

(10-01-2014 10:17 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:09 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:59 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  1 - I suggest you look up the word "might"
2 - How has it been disproven?

The CDC says that he didn't display symptoms until after he entered the country.

That region won't let anyone that is displaying symptoms to hop on an airplane

he was already staying in the US long enough to make it highly unlikely that he left because he thought he had the disease.

You're logic is weak son...

1 - I said exposed, not ill. "If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus"...
2 - He started showing symptoms after 4 days in the US that means his exposure could have come either the day before departure (which would make it unlikely that was the motivation) or up to 6 days before leaving (which could make it more likely).

He left Monrovia Sept. 19 and arrived in the United States Sept 20. First presented with symptoms on the 23rd, went to the hospital on the 24th... 10 day incubation of the virus means he could have been exposed as early as the 13th...

So tell me, what's been proven?

you just proved my point.

Quick question... Seriously... Do you know what exposed means?

Quick question... Seriously... do you know what "symptom" means?

(10-01-2014 10:17 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:09 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:59 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  1 - I suggest you look up the word "might"
2 - How has it been disproven?

The CDC says that he didn't display symptoms until after he entered the country.

That region won't let anyone that is displaying symptoms to hop on an airplane

he was already staying in the US long enough to make it highly unlikely that he left because he thought he had the disease.

You're logic is weak son...

1 - I said exposed, not ill. "If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus"...
2 - He started showing symptoms after 4 days in the US that means his exposure could have come either the day before departure (which would make it unlikely that was the motivation) or up to 6 days before leaving (which could make it more likely).

He left Monrovia Sept. 19 and arrived in the United States Sept 20. First presented with symptoms on the 23rd, went to the hospital on the 24th... 10 day incubation of the virus means he could have been exposed as early as the 13th...

So tell me, what's been proven?

you just proved my point.

What he just said proves that your disproved theory is false. How are you missing that?

nope, you are just displaying your usual level of brain dead stupidity.

(10-01-2014 10:32 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:17 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:09 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  The CDC says that he didn't display symptoms until after he entered the country.

That region won't let anyone that is displaying symptoms to hop on an airplane

he was already staying in the US long enough to make it highly unlikely that he left because he thought he had the disease.

You're logic is weak son...

1 - I said exposed, not ill. "If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus"...
2 - He started showing symptoms after 4 days in the US that means his exposure could have come either the day before departure (which would make it unlikely that was the motivation) or up to 6 days before leaving (which could make it more likely).

He left Monrovia Sept. 19 and arrived in the United States Sept 20. First presented with symptoms on the 23rd, went to the hospital on the 24th... 10 day incubation of the virus means he could have been exposed as early as the 13th...

So tell me, what's been proven?

you just proved my point.

Quick question... Seriously... Do you know what exposed means?

Quick question... Seriously... do you know what "symptom" means?

Ok so you don't know what exposed is, English is your second language, or you're too embarrassed to admit you were wrong... In any case explaining this to you like I would my 9 year old daughter seems appropriate... Because you're acting like a little girl..

You and I are playing a game of chess and I sneeze in your face. That night I get sick from the flue with a fever and nausea. I call you to let you know I'm sick or you just see my facebook status change to OH NOES I HAS DA FLU (so you can understand it)...

You may or may not have the flu. It will be days before you develop any symptoms. But given I have the flu and I sneezed in your face you were exposed to it. Exposure happens long before symptoms.. In case you're interested we call the time between is called incubation... The flu incubated for about 5 days, ebola from 6-12 days.

A reasonable person win your position could then go buy some oj, some theraflu, and perhaps start to rest up a bit so their body could fight off the flue if you had it..

Now read that again and replace flu with ebola. In this case a reasonable person of means might skip the OJ and decide to head to a place with far better health protocols that Libera... Wouldn't you?

Let me ask you a question Rob... If he was not exposed in Liberia how did he come by Ebola?

(10-01-2014 10:38 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:32 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:17 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:09 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  You're logic is weak son...

1 - I said exposed, not ill. "If one lived in Libera and was exposed the virus"...
2 - He started showing symptoms after 4 days in the US that means his exposure could have come either the day before departure (which would make it unlikely that was the motivation) or up to 6 days before leaving (which could make it more likely).

He left Monrovia Sept. 19 and arrived in the United States Sept 20. First presented with symptoms on the 23rd, went to the hospital on the 24th... 10 day incubation of the virus means he could have been exposed as early as the 13th...

So tell me, what's been proven?

you just proved my point.

Quick question... Seriously... Do you know what exposed means?

Quick question... Seriously... do you know what "symptom" means?

Ok so you don't know what exposed is, English is your second language, or you're too embarrassed to admit you were wrong... In any case explaining this to you like I would my 9 year old daughter seems appropriate... Because you're acting like a little girl..

You and I are playing a game of chess and I sneeze in your face. That night I get sick from the flue with a fever and nausea.

You may or may not have the flu. It will be days before you develop any symptoms. But given I had the flue and I sneezed in your face you were exposed to it.

A reasonable person win your position could then go buy some oj, some theraflu, and perhaps start to rest up a bit so their body could fight off the flue if you had it..

Now read that again and replace flu with ebola. In this case a reasonable person of means might skip the OJ and decide to head to a place with far better health protocols that Libera... Wouldn't you?

Let me ask you a question Rob... If he was not exposed in Liberia how did he come by Ebola?

it is this type of partisanship bickering that drives ppl away from the main room. that part in red was something I already showed you and you clearly don't seem to be able to understand I stated that. instead you ask if english is my second language. bye bye douche bag, you have finally convinced me why it's not a good idea to keep posting here.

every single one of my posts suggested exposed but no symptoms ya dumb fu.cken prick.

(10-01-2014 10:41 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:38 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:32 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:17 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 10:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  you just proved my point.

Quick question... Seriously... Do you know what exposed means?

Quick question... Seriously... do you know what "symptom" means?

Ok so you don't know what exposed is, English is your second language, or you're too embarrassed to admit you were wrong... In any case explaining this to you like I would my 9 year old daughter seems appropriate... Because you're acting like a little girl..

You and I are playing a game of chess and I sneeze in your face. That night I get sick from the flue with a fever and nausea.

You may or may not have the flu. It will be days before you develop any symptoms. But given I had the flue and I sneezed in your face you were exposed to it.

A reasonable person win your position could then go buy some oj, some theraflu, and perhaps start to rest up a bit so their body could fight off the flue if you had it..

Now read that again and replace flu with ebola. In this case a reasonable person of means might skip the OJ and decide to head to a place with far better health protocols that Libera... Wouldn't you?

Let me ask you a question Rob... If he was not exposed in Liberia how did he come by Ebola?

it is this type of partisanship bickering that drives ppl away from the main room. that part in red was something I already showed you and you clearly don't seem to be able to understand I stated that. instead you ask if english is my second language. bye bye douche bag, you have finally convinced me why it's not a good idea to keep posting here.

So here is how the conversation went..

BIE - I wonder if this guy knew he was exposed and came here for better medical care
RN - No he could not have known he was exposed because he did not have symptoms
BIE - I said exposed, not sick
RN - Exactly! He could not have known he was exposed because he did not have symptoms
BIE - Do you know what exposed means?
RN - Do you know what "symptom" means?
BIE - [Snidely and with great derision] You're either dumb or purposefully obtuse let me give you an example
RN - I don't like how you meanly corrected me (and I was being mean)... So I'm going to call you a vulgar name, declare victory, and then run away with my tail between my legs..

I said nothing partisan Rob... I said noting inaccurate... I simply was a bit rude but you had it coming. You are either stupid or are just being argumentative for the sake of not being wrong.

People were not chased away from the main room by being called little girls... they were chased way when morons like you get backed into a corner, refuse to grow and learn, and then cry about it.

(10-01-2014 10:43 AM)john01992 Wrote:  every single one of my posts suggested exposed but no symptoms ya dumb fu.cken prick.

Rob go back and read my first post... I said "maybe he knew he was exposed and came here"

You said..

"that notion has already been disproven "

Maybe you need some of LSU04's coffee to keep up.