(09-28-2014 05:52 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I am going to go with the opinion that most of this league has no room to talk right now. The top of the league can talk a little...but our OOC results this year have been awful.

Time to talk was last year. We'll probably be able to talk again next year.

I fully support taking shots at Jacksonville State though.

Last season was not much better for the Sun Belt OOC besides WKU beating Navy.....Now we are beating Navy in CUSA....Just happens their were a lot of even teams with similar records in SB last season and no one who was truly horrible like the 4 teams you have this season bringing up the rear...So sorry you guys cannot brag about best G5 conf. this season...What does that say about the team that left that helped you win a halfway made up title last season that was due to not have horrible teams in conf...

(09-30-2014 10:24 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(09-28-2014 05:52 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I am going to go with the opinion that most of this league has no room to talk right now. The top of the league can talk a little...but our OOC results this year have been awful.

Time to talk was last year. We'll probably be able to talk again next year.

I fully support taking shots at Jacksonville State though.

Last season was not much better for the Sun Belt OOC besides WKU beating Navy.....Now we are beating Navy in CUSA....Just happens their were a lot of even teams with similar records in SB last season and no one who was truly horrible like the 4 teams you have this season bringing up the rear...So sorry you guys cannot brag about best G5 conf. this season...What does that say about the team that left that helped you win a halfway made up title last season that was due to not have horrible teams in conf...

You can call it made up or whatever, but we still pocketed the check.

(09-27-2014 08:53 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(09-27-2014 08:47 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(09-27-2014 08:45 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  SBC has had an awful year OOC this year...there's nothing to defend at all...

Point is CUSA fans brow-beat us for Troy losing to AC... then went and lost to two FCS schools.


We all suck together.

As I have said before, it's definitely not a pretty picture in terms of W/L record, but in how many OOC games have we clearly underperformed? A lot of them were long shots or coin flips that we didn't get.

And if we suck, the MAC and CUSA do too. The only difference between the CUSA and SBC I see is that our cellar is probably stronger and their top team is probably better (not sure about the latter, Marshall doesn't face a P5 all year so they may not get tested unlike our teams like StAte).

Do you really believe that there's little to no difference between the SB and CUSA? Honestly. The difference between both leagues was insignificant the past couple of years but not this year. It's not even close. I don't know why some here are trying to make that argument. It is what it is.

Anyways, I hope the SB can bounce back next year and continue its trajectory.

(09-30-2014 07:06 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(09-27-2014 08:53 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(09-27-2014 08:47 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(09-27-2014 08:45 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  SBC has had an awful year OOC this year...there's nothing to defend at all...

Point is CUSA fans brow-beat us for Troy losing to AC... then went and lost to two FCS schools.


We all suck together.

As I have said before, it's definitely not a pretty picture in terms of W/L record, but in how many OOC games have we clearly underperformed? A lot of them were long shots or coin flips that we didn't get.

And if we suck, the MAC and CUSA do too. The only difference between the CUSA and SBC I see is that our cellar is probably stronger and their top team is probably better (not sure about the latter, Marshall doesn't face a P5 all year so they may not get tested unlike our teams like StAte).

Do you really believe that there's little to no difference between the SB and CUSA? Honestly. The difference between both leagues was insignificant the past couple of years but not this year. It's not even close. I don't know why some here are trying to make that argument. It is what it is.

Anyways, I hope the SB can bounce back next year and continue its trajectory.

The reality is that you have an equal chance of making national noise in the SBC or CUSA. For example, had we not given away the NC St and GT game, Ga Southern would be getting more national publicity than all of CUSA combined. Now you can argue about CUSA's G5 record and whipping eastern michigan etc, but Ga Southern's focus is on making a national mark and not those tiddly wink victories. The SBC gives us just as much chance of doing that as CUSA.

(09-30-2014 07:40 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 07:06 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(09-27-2014 08:53 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(09-27-2014 08:47 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(09-27-2014 08:45 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  SBC has had an awful year OOC this year...there's nothing to defend at all...

Point is CUSA fans brow-beat us for Troy losing to AC... then went and lost to two FCS schools.


We all suck together.

As I have said before, it's definitely not a pretty picture in terms of W/L record, but in how many OOC games have we clearly underperformed? A lot of them were long shots or coin flips that we didn't get.

And if we suck, the MAC and CUSA do too. The only difference between the CUSA and SBC I see is that our cellar is probably stronger and their top team is probably better (not sure about the latter, Marshall doesn't face a P5 all year so they may not get tested unlike our teams like StAte).

Do you really believe that there's little to no difference between the SB and CUSA? Honestly. The difference between both leagues was insignificant the past couple of years but not this year. It's not even close. I don't know why some here are trying to make that argument. It is what it is.

Anyways, I hope the SB can bounce back next year and continue its trajectory.

The reality is that you have an equal chance of making national noise in the SBC or CUSA. For example, had we not given away the NC St and GT game, Ga Southern would be getting more national publicity than all of CUSA combined. Now you can argue about CUSA's G5 record and whipping eastern michigan etc, but Ga Southern's focus is on making a national mark and not those tiddly wink victories. The SBC gives us just as much chance of doing that as CUSA.

CUSA has done their business this year. SBC not so much.

We are still not going to be able to tell how this all shakes out for a few years yet. But CUSA started with a few holdover perception advantages and got out of the gate with a good impression. The first impression year was a bad time for the SBC to underperform.

This season still isn't over yet and we'll have bowl performances to try to recover some with. This is where it might be a bit of a shame for Georgia Southern to be out of the bowl picture.

(09-30-2014 08:00 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 07:40 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 07:06 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(09-27-2014 08:53 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(09-27-2014 08:47 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  Point is CUSA fans brow-beat us for Troy losing to AC... then went and lost to two FCS schools.


We all suck together.

As I have said before, it's definitely not a pretty picture in terms of W/L record, but in how many OOC games have we clearly underperformed? A lot of them were long shots or coin flips that we didn't get.

And if we suck, the MAC and CUSA do too. The only difference between the CUSA and SBC I see is that our cellar is probably stronger and their top team is probably better (not sure about the latter, Marshall doesn't face a P5 all year so they may not get tested unlike our teams like StAte).

Do you really believe that there's little to no difference between the SB and CUSA? Honestly. The difference between both leagues was insignificant the past couple of years but not this year. It's not even close. I don't know why some here are trying to make that argument. It is what it is.

Anyways, I hope the SB can bounce back next year and continue its trajectory.

The reality is that you have an equal chance of making national noise in the SBC or CUSA. For example, had we not given away the NC St and GT game, Ga Southern would be getting more national publicity than all of CUSA combined. Now you can argue about CUSA's G5 record and whipping eastern michigan etc, but Ga Southern's focus is on making a national mark and not those tiddly wink victories. The SBC gives us just as much chance of doing that as CUSA.

CUSA has done their business this year. SBC not so much.

We are still not going to be able to tell how this all shakes out for a few years yet. But CUSA started with a few holdover perception advantages and got out of the gate with a good impression. The first impression year was a bad time for the SBC to underperform.

This season still isn't over yet and we'll have bowl performances to try to recover some with. This is where it might be a bit of a shame for Georgia Southern to be out of the bowl picture.

Very true, I agree. It is nearly impossible to predict which conference will come out on top. However, I'm very confident about CUSA moving forward as I'm sure you guys are also after adding a couple of quality programs. Unlike many here, I won't make a fool out of myself by trying to predict the future. All I can say is that I like what I've seen in CUSA and I like our odds more. Having said that, we'll just have to wait and see.

(09-30-2014 07:40 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 07:06 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(09-27-2014 08:53 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(09-27-2014 08:47 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(09-27-2014 08:45 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  SBC has had an awful year OOC this year...there's nothing to defend at all...

Point is CUSA fans brow-beat us for Troy losing to AC... then went and lost to two FCS schools.


We all suck together.

As I have said before, it's definitely not a pretty picture in terms of W/L record, but in how many OOC games have we clearly underperformed? A lot of them were long shots or coin flips that we didn't get.

And if we suck, the MAC and CUSA do too. The only difference between the CUSA and SBC I see is that our cellar is probably stronger and their top team is probably better (not sure about the latter, Marshall doesn't face a P5 all year so they may not get tested unlike our teams like StAte).

Do you really believe that there's little to no difference between the SB and CUSA? Honestly. The difference between both leagues was insignificant the past couple of years but not this year. It's not even close. I don't know why some here are trying to make that argument. It is what it is.

Anyways, I hope the SB can bounce back next year and continue its trajectory.

The reality is that you have an equal chance of making national noise in the SBC or CUSA. For example, had we not given away the NC St and GT game, Ga Southern would be getting more national publicity than all of CUSA combined. Now you can argue about CUSA's G5 record and whipping eastern michigan etc, but Ga Southern's focus is on making a national mark and not those tiddly wink victories. The SBC gives us just as much chance of doing that as CUSA.

How about you get those " tiddly wink victories " first and a few SB championships before turning your focus on "making a national mark". That's just my opinion.

I respect GS very much but most their fans are so full of s%$t it's repulsive.

(09-30-2014 07:40 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  had we not given away the NC St and GT game, Ga Southern would be getting more national publicity than all of CUSA combined.

You didn't give anything away, hell you held a 3 point lead for all of ten minutes against GT.

You've been told about depth issues during transition, you didn't give the NCSU game away they took it from you when your D was obviously gassed in the fourth quarter.

But hey, what do I know? I've been wrong about GS more times than you can count,right? Still waiting on those examples...

A part of me wishes we could stay in the Sun Belt but play a CUSA schedule just to shut some of these fools up.

Tired of hearing their rambling.

(10-01-2014 05:43 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  A part of me wishes we could stay in the Sun Belt but play a CUSA schedule just to shut some of these fools up.

Tired of hearing their rambling.

Much like everyone else is tired of hearing GA Southern fans proclaim themselves the Gods of FBS.

If you don't like what some of us have to say, get off our board.

I love this conference.

(10-01-2014 05:58 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  If you don't like what some of us have to say, get off our board.

I'm quite sure many of your conference mates share my opinion.

Maybe some, but if we keep it up, we will be helping out the conference and help bring in money to everyone.

And you're just hating because we aren't having a miserable transition like you guys did.

Just keeping it real...the only other teams to transition that had sustained success in 1AA were Marshall and App.

(10-01-2014 05:43 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  A part of me wishes we could stay in the Sun Belt but play a CUSA schedule just to shut some of these fools up.

Tired of hearing their rambling.

We boatraced Tech last time we played them.

I'm not even sure what exactly you want to shut me up from saying, do you feel you gave away the NCSU or GT games?

Your defense was clearly gassed in the fourth quarter against NCSU and I just don't see how losing to GT, albeit in the closing minutes, is giving anything away when they led for 75% of the game.

You guys have looked good, but talking like it's just a forgone conclusion that you'd beat us and "shut us fools up"...

(09-27-2014 08:41 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I know the mods get really annoyed at these type of threads, but I feel like I need to defend the SBC tonight...

Here was some discussion on the CUSA board after Troy lost to ACU a while back...

(09-14-2014 01:38 PM)panama Wrote:  Not for nothing but there are several CUSA teams that ACU would give a game and a couple they would beat handily.

(09-14-2014 03:01 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 01:38 PM)panama Wrote:  Not for nothing but there are several CUSA teams that ACU would give a game and a couple they would beat handily.

Coming from a GaSt fan...

(09-14-2014 04:45 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 01:38 PM)panama Wrote:  Not for nothing but there are several CUSA teams that ACU would give a game and a couple they would beat handily.

(09-14-2014 05:02 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 04:45 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 01:38 PM)panama Wrote:  Not for nothing but there are several CUSA teams that ACU would give a game and a couple they would beat handily.

A 'couple'?

They *might* be able to beat FIU. Who else?

(09-14-2014 07:45 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 01:38 PM)panama Wrote:  Not for nothing but there are several CUSA teams that ACU would give a game and a couple they would beat handily.

Really? You know that team that beat you last week? Well, last night we gave that same team a good old fashion spanking. Sent them home crying 42-24. And we were only 10 point favorites.

By the way we've won 6 straight games from them.

(09-15-2014 12:18 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 01:38 PM)panama Wrote:  Not for nothing but there are several CUSA teams that ACU would give a game and a couple they would beat handily.

No. Just, no.

Are you counting FIU's offense, defense and special teams separately?

So La-Tech (who clobbered North Texas) takes a loss to a perennially mediocre SLC team that seldom makes the FCS playoffs.

FIU lost to a freakin' MEAC team and then goes on to beat UAB by two touchdowns.

I know the vast majority of folks on the CUSA board don't know anything about the FCS landscape, so let me break it down...Northwestern State is a fairly mediocre program in a mediocre FCS league.....the MEAC is a bottom-tier league that I don't think has won an FCS playoff game since 1999. Take it from a guy who knows the FCS, Northwestern State is most likely not much better than ACU.

But yeah...ACU wouldn't have a chance against any of the other CUSA teams....the Sun Belt is the only league that can have tams outside the cellar that lose to FCS squads.

The SLC has not been a mediocre league with Sam Houston making it to the FCS Championship many times recently. The SLC is a top FCS league the last several years.

(10-01-2014 09:25 PM)Cat79 Wrote:  The SLC has not been a mediocre league with Sam Houston making it to the FCS Championship many times recently. The SLC is a top FCS league the last several years.

Sam Houston had a REALLY good team for years. The rest of the SLC is very average.

One team does not a conference make.

(10-01-2014 09:43 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 09:25 PM)Cat79 Wrote:  The SLC has not been a mediocre league with Sam Houston making it to the FCS Championship many times recently. The SLC is a top FCS league the last several years.

Sam Houston had a REALLY good team for years. The rest of the SLC is very average.

One team does not a conference make.

If the same two teams have made the finals for many years that seems to show that both leagues show superior talent levels or coaching to make it that far. Has there been a Big Sky team in the finals? The Big Sky claims they are the best of FCS.

If the same two teams have made the finals for many years, that shows that both teams are well coached and have superior talent.

It speaks nothing of the league they are in.

I don't care about the Big Sky or what they say. the SLC was a mediocre league and has been for the better part of the last 10+ years.

(10-01-2014 05:56 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 05:43 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  A part of me wishes we could stay in the Sun Belt but play a CUSA schedule just to shut some of these fools up.

Tired of hearing their rambling.

Much like everyone else is tired of hearing GA Southern fans proclaim themselves the Gods of FBS.

Get it right. Nick Saban is the God of FBS. Alabama fans say so.

(10-01-2014 06:05 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  Maybe some, but if we keep it up, we will be helping out the conference and help bring in money to everyone.

How are you going to bring in this money? I'm really interested in hearing this answer.

As for the other part of your statement...

be glad you are entering FBS at a time when the SBC is probably the weakest it's been for about the last 10 years.