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RE: Game Five - Stony Brook
Overall, an inconsistent but solid effort highlighted by some spectacular plays and a great finish.

Defensive consistency still not there in the first half. Coleman became a force in this game, and Stephens showed he is capable of blowing up plays. We really havent had a D Tackle be able to blow up running plays consistently since Mike Stover, so it would be great if he, Jasper and Claytor can really become a 3-man force at that position. Tre Reed played extremely well. Ian Haislip continues to impress. Defensive ends turned it on in second half. Worry about the lack of rest for Sinnott / Reilly though as Peyton Gryder only spells one of them a few times a game.

Offensive line still lots of room to improve. Solid game by the receivers despite limited touches by T. McBride. Still would love to get Kevin Hart on the field as I thought he showed explosive potential last year. Ballard's breakaway speed was impressive. Kendall Anderson has a great burst. Saboor ran hard, and good blocking by the FBs.

Cluley improves every game, as said before. Pace of the offense was better. They stuffed the zone read and we adapted. More short and intermediate throws which I liked. Quicker decisions as well.

Best thing we can do is get healthy. I'm sure all the guys are banged up.
09-29-2014 03:10 PM
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RE: Game Five - Stony Brook
It is hard to predict how the rest of the season will go, but if, as we hope, it turns into a memorable one, THE PLAY--Sean Ballard's stunning 53 yard dash to the endzone for the tying TD in the dying moments of the game--will stand as one of the great moments in Tribe football.

Improbable as it was, Sean's remarkable run is mind-boggling to anyone who knows anything about football--watch the rerun on Tribe Athletics TV if you don't think this can be:

*it was second and eleven from our own 47 with just 53 second remaining. The ball is snapped and SBU is sending everyone, including what appears to be all their linebackers,
on a push to sack Cluley.

*Right away you know this is a terrible defensive call. W&M needs a TD and is 53 yards away..why, for heaven's sake, are they sending seven men after our qb.

*Apparently Jimmye called the short pass out into the right flank to Ballard. Why, I have no idea...this is ordinarily a doomed play for big yardage unless, somehow, Laycock knows SBU is sending everyone on a mad charge at the qb. Otherwise, why call this time-eating play instead of a big pass downfield? Yey I don't perceive this from Jimmye's post-game comments.

*Our other receivers apparently fan out to the left, away from the pass, drawing several of the four remaining defenders with them.

*Ballard executes the pass perfectly, a ball that, basically, goes a short few yards to our right sideline.

*With the linebackers caught in our backfield, Ballard escapes the one defender who has charged at him from the left and is off and running.

*There are only, it appears in the film, only two men remaining who have any shot at Ballard,
who is running faster than anyone has ever seen him run before.

*Ballard escapes a diving stab at his legs and has picked up our receiver, Flynn Heald, as a blocker to Ballard's left.

*Heald, an unheralded soph from Cedar Rapids, Iowa (perhaps the first football player ever from Iowa for W&M), screens off the last SBU player with a real chance of stopping Ballard

*Heald is the real hero hero here...watch the film and you'll see that Flynn keeps the SBU defender from getting to Ballard, screening him for six or seven yards from making what
would have been an easy shot at Ballard. By the way it is Heald who caught a pass for ten yards in our completion before Ballard's big catch & run.

If we go on to a memorable season it is this play that will live forever in Tribe gridiron history.
It is as improbable as it is stunning when one views it.
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(09-29-2014 06:54 PM)BigTribe Wrote:  *it was second and eleven from our own 47 with just 53 second remaining. The ball is snapped and SBU is sending everyone, including what appears to be all their linebackers,
on a push to sack Cluley.

*Right away you know this is a terrible defensive call. W&M needs a TD and is 53 yards away..why, for heaven's sake, are they sending seven men after our qb.

*Apparently Jimmye called the short pass out into the right flank to Ballard. Why, I have no idea...this is ordinarily a doomed play for big yardage unless, somehow, Laycock knows SBU is sending everyone on a mad charge at the qb. Otherwise, why call this time-eating play instead of a big pass downfield? Yey I don't perceive this from Jimmye's post-game comments.

The play was checked off at the line when the coming pressure was obvious and was designed to get the ball out quickly and for Ballard to get out of bounds and pick up a first if possible. Move the chains and stop the clock was the goal. Ballard's move and Heald's block were enough to get much more. Watch some of Ballard's highlights from past games and his speed has always been obvious.
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And they only brought 5 on that play, not 7.
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You are technically correct that they ended up bringing five men directly at Cluley...four down linemen and a linebacker.

However, another linebacker takes one or two steps forward, then just stands there near the line of scrimmage doing nothing and, in effect, is takes himself out of the play in a pointless position.

The seventh player is also up close to the line of scrimmage, within two yards, and starts to go downfield well after the p[lay starts.

In effect, seven men in our backfield or at the line of scrimmage when the pass goes to Ballard.

This is terrible coaching; most teams in that very positive position would send two, three at the most, down linemen and drop all the backs and linebackers well back...perhaps two linebackers seven to eight yards downfield with the fast defensive backs arrayed ten to fifteen yards (perhaps even more) behind them.

You can't have seven men at the line of scrimmage...this leaves you very vulnerable to say the least. And, of course, SBU reaped the folly of their faulty defensive alignment...a simple pass out in the right flank turns into a 53 yard TD.
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I hope every opponent reaps the folly of their faulty defensive alignment. This is a good thing.

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(09-30-2014 05:41 AM)BigTribe Wrote:  You are technically correct that they ended up bringing five men directly at Cluley...four down linemen and a linebacker.

However, another linebacker takes one or two steps forward, then just stands there near the line of scrimmage doing nothing and, in effect, is takes himself out of the play in a pointless position.

The seventh player is also up close to the line of scrimmage, within two yards, and starts to go downfield well after the p[lay starts.

In effect, seven men in our backfield or at the line of scrimmage when the pass goes to Ballard.

This is terrible coaching; most teams in that very positive position would send two, three at the most, down linemen and drop all the backs and linebackers well back...perhaps two linebackers seven to eight yards downfield with the fast defensive backs arrayed ten to fifteen yards (perhaps even more) behind them.

You can't have seven men at the line of scrimmage...this leaves you very vulnerable to say the least. And, of course, SBU reaped the folly of their faulty defensive alignment...a simple pass out in the right flank turns into a 53 yard TD.

He's probably a spy. Cluley is mobile enough that putting one on him makes sense in that situation
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Yep, if you watch the clip, he appears to just be mirroring the QB. and I presume he'd have come scraping downhill if we had moved the pocket. They had 9 within 4 yards of the line of scrimmage at the snap, but only 4 down linemen and 1 LB actually rushed the passer.

No matter how many came, the QB did a nice job making a quick decision and accurate throw.
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(09-29-2014 07:25 PM)Tribe4SF Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 06:54 PM)BigTribe Wrote:  *it was second and eleven from our own 47 with just 53 second remaining. The ball is snapped and SBU is sending everyone, including what appears to be all their linebackers,
on a push to sack Cluley.

*Right away you know this is a terrible defensive call. W&M needs a TD and is 53 yards away..why, for heaven's sake, are they sending seven men after our qb.

*Apparently Jimmye called the short pass out into the right flank to Ballard. Why, I have no idea...this is ordinarily a doomed play for big yardage unless, somehow, Laycock knows SBU is sending everyone on a mad charge at the qb. Otherwise, why call this time-eating play instead of a big pass downfield? Yey I don't perceive this from Jimmye's post-game comments.

The play was checked off at the line when the coming pressure was obvious and was designed to get the ball out quickly and for Ballard to get out of bounds and pick up a first if possible. Move the chains and stop the clock was the goal. Ballard's move and Heald's block were enough to get much more. Watch some of Ballard's highlights from past games and his speed has always been obvious.

It was even more impressive because there was much less time. The TD was scored with less than 25 seconds to go. At the start of that play, the clock reads 34 seconds I believe. So, we only had 3-4 plays left. I know some Tribe fans that turned it off after the TD Stony Brook scored. It was a very big play in the season. Jimmye indicated in his postgame press conference that they were trying to get a first down and get out of bounds. Essentially, you are trying to get to a spot where you can throw it in the endzone. Sean was helped by the missed angle/tackle, but once he turned the corner, he finished the play and perhaps changed the season. All the remaining conference games will be tough, but it gives the Tribe a chance to set up something really special if it can build on this win.
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Think where the passing game could be if we had Revell. We have Tre, Ballard, and Dedmon that all look good. Add Anderson and Saboor and you have the makings of a good offense. I think coach will have to be much more aggressive offensively though for us to play with New Hampshire and Villanova the next 2 games.
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Reading all the detail here on this play really helps underscore for me the historical significance this game may have in our football history - and possibly this season.

You can look at any team that has had a really memorable season and they all seem to have a win or two like this one along the road.
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(09-30-2014 11:22 AM)Sitting bull Wrote:  Reading all the detail here on this play really helps underscore for me the historical significance this game may have in our football history - and possibly this season.

You can look at any team that has had a really memorable season and they all seem to have a win or two like this one along the road.

+1

Especially a win like this on the road when we're banged up.

The narrow come from behind victory (38-35 OT) against Northeastern in 2004 comes to mind as a similar game that gets lost as just another win in a great season, but I really think that win created a sense of destiny around that team. Hopefully we get healthy from here and the same sense of destiny (i.e., feeling they can't or won't be denied) develops around this team after pulling out a tough road win.
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(09-30-2014 11:22 AM)Sitting bull Wrote:  Reading all the detail here on this play really helps underscore for me the historical significance this game may have in our football history - and possibly this season.

You can look at any team that has had a really memorable season and they all seem to have a win or two like this one along the road.

Agreed. The mental aspect of the game is what sets great teams apart from good teams. With a week off to heal and to put in more advanced schemes, this has the feel of a turning point. The next two weeks will tell, but it appears that Big Mo has swung to our side.
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I watched most of the 4th quarter vs Towson on TV.

SBU looks like a good group to me, disciplined and pretty well coached.

I know they started out rough, losing a string of close games to decent competition, but this team may well end up in the upper mid tier of the CAA. Now at 1-1, the only game they likely won't be favored is at UNH. They could possibly end 6-2 in this league. They do not play Richmond, Villanova or Delaware.
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