(09-21-2014 03:52 PM)bokobobcat1919 Wrote:  1 Arkansas State
2 Georgia Southern
3 ULM
4 TXST
5 Louisiana
6 New Mexico State
7 South Alabama
T-8 Appalachian State
T-8 Georgia State
10 Idaho
11 Troy

I agree with this. I thought NMSU would pull it out. I think Georgia St will end up winning at least 3 games this year due to Arbuckle alone.

(09-21-2014 04:23 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 04:20 PM)Baldy Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 01:42 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  We have 3 bowls. I suspect we will have 3 bowl eligible teams. What if we had 3 and GA So and there was an open bowl? Could the Sun Belt shift a team to an open bowl and let GA SO play in one of our tie-ins?

9 eligible teams but I think 4 teams will have a tough time getting bowl eligible - Troy, GA St., Idaho and NMSU.
That leaves stAte, UL, ULM, TX St. and USA as potential bowl teams.

Will they all make it?

Again, getting way ahead of ourselves here....BUT...The only way I see that GS gets to a bowl is if we win the conference outright, and of course apply for and receive a waiver.

Not that simple. The NCAA has to have a need for more bowl teams.
Besides when GS loses Thursday it will be a moot point.

(09-21-2014 04:34 PM)CatMom Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 04:20 PM)Baldy Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 01:42 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  We have 3 bowls. I suspect we will have 3 bowl eligible teams. What if we had 3 and GA So and there was an open bowl? Could the Sun Belt shift a team to an open bowl and let GA SO play in one of our tie-ins?

9 eligible teams but I think 4 teams will have a tough time getting bowl eligible - Troy, GA St., Idaho and NMSU.
That leaves stAte, UL, ULM, TX St. and USA as potential bowl teams.

Will they all make it?

Again, getting way ahead of ourselves here....BUT...The only way I see that GS gets to a bowl is if we win the conference outright, and of course apply for and receive a waiver.

What part of the rules/regulations for Bowl eligibility do you not grasp?

What do you not grasp about the ncaa granting waivers for unusual situations? :)

In 2012 the ncaa granted Georgia Tech a special waiver that allowed them to play in a bowl game despite having a losing record which the rules do not allow. Perhaps they could do the same for us if we won the conference. Doubtful but possible.

(09-21-2014 05:52 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 04:34 PM)CatMom Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 04:20 PM)Baldy Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 01:42 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  We have 3 bowls. I suspect we will have 3 bowl eligible teams. What if we had 3 and GA So and there was an open bowl? Could the Sun Belt shift a team to an open bowl and let GA SO play in one of our tie-ins?

9 eligible teams but I think 4 teams will have a tough time getting bowl eligible - Troy, GA St., Idaho and NMSU.
That leaves stAte, UL, ULM, TX St. and USA as potential bowl teams.

Will they all make it?

Again, getting way ahead of ourselves here....BUT...The only way I see that GS gets to a bowl is if we win the conference outright, and of course apply for and receive a waiver.

What part of the rules/regulations for Bowl eligibility do you not grasp?

What do you not grasp about the ncaa granting waivers for unusual situations? :)

In 2012 the ncaa granted Georgia Tech a special waiver that allowed them to play in a bowl game despite having a losing record which the rules do not allow. Perhaps they could do the same for us if we won the conference. Doubtful but possible.

Georgia Tech got that Waiver because they only had to play a 13th game and risk their bowl eligibility because a team that was ineligible for postseason won their division.

UTSA didn't get a Waiver last year...you wont get one this year.

(09-21-2014 06:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 05:52 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 04:34 PM)CatMom Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 04:20 PM)Baldy Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 01:42 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  We have 3 bowls. I suspect we will have 3 bowl eligible teams. What if we had 3 and GA So and there was an open bowl? Could the Sun Belt shift a team to an open bowl and let GA SO play in one of our tie-ins?

9 eligible teams but I think 4 teams will have a tough time getting bowl eligible - Troy, GA St., Idaho and NMSU.
That leaves stAte, UL, ULM, TX St. and USA as potential bowl teams.

Will they all make it?

Again, getting way ahead of ourselves here....BUT...The only way I see that GS gets to a bowl is if we win the conference outright, and of course apply for and receive a waiver.

What part of the rules/regulations for Bowl eligibility do you not grasp?

What do you not grasp about the ncaa granting waivers for unusual situations? :)

In 2012 the ncaa granted Georgia Tech a special waiver that allowed them to play in a bowl game despite having a losing record which the rules do not allow. Perhaps they could do the same for us if we won the conference. Doubtful but possible.

Georgia Tech got that Waiver because they only had to play a 13th game and risk their bowl eligibility because a team that was ineligible for postseason won their division.

UTSA didn't get a Waiver last year...you wont get one this year.

Yes, it won't happen, but the ncaa can overrule the rules as evidenced by the waiver for GT.

(09-21-2014 06:13 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 06:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 05:52 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 04:34 PM)CatMom Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 04:20 PM)Baldy Wrote:  Again, getting way ahead of ourselves here....BUT...The only way I see that GS gets to a bowl is if we win the conference outright, and of course apply for and receive a waiver.

What part of the rules/regulations for Bowl eligibility do you not grasp?

What do you not grasp about the ncaa granting waivers for unusual situations? :)

In 2012 the ncaa granted Georgia Tech a special waiver that allowed them to play in a bowl game despite having a losing record which the rules do not allow. Perhaps they could do the same for us if we won the conference. Doubtful but possible.

Georgia Tech got that Waiver because they only had to play a 13th game and risk their bowl eligibility because a team that was ineligible for postseason won their division.

UTSA didn't get a Waiver last year...you wont get one this year.

Yes, it won't happen, but the ncaa can overrule the rules as evidenced by the waiver for GT.

Yes, but that was a special case, and there was precedence for it. The NCAA could not punish Georgia Tech for Miami's mistake. Miami wins the division that year if they didn't screw up and get probation. But because they did...GT Had to play the 13th game for the conference title.

Also, there is no incentive for The NCAA to make Georgia Southern eligible. No one nationally cares whether you guys are bowl eligible or not.

On August 2, 2012, the NCAA Division I Board of Directors approved a significant change to the process to determine bowl eligible teams, going so far as to potentially allow 5-7 teams to go to a bowl, in case there were not enough regular bowl-eligible teams to fill every game. If a bowl has one or more conferences/teams unable to meet their contractual commitments and there are no available bowl-eligible teams, the open spots can be filled – by the particular bowl's sponsoring agencies – as follows:

1. Teams finishing 6-6 with one win against a team from the lower Football Championship Subdivision (FCS), regardless of whether that FCS school meets NCAA scholarship requirements. Until now, an FCS win counted only if that opponent met the scholarship requirements—specifically, that school had to award at least 90% of the FCS maximum of 63 scholarship equivalents over a two-year period. In the 2012 season, programs in four FCS conferences cannot meet the 90% requirement (56.7 equivalents)—the Ivy League, which prohibits all athletic scholarships; the Patriot League and Pioneer Football League, which do not currently award football scholarships; and the Northeast Conference, which limits football scholarships to 38 equivalents.

2. 6-6 teams with two wins over FCS schools.

3. Teams that finish 6-7 with loss number seven in their conference championship game (that has been eliminated by the conference championship waiver rule).

4. 6-7 teams that normally play a 13-team schedule, such as Hawaii's home opponents. Although Hawaii normally plays a 13-game schedule, it only played 12 games this season.

5. FCS teams who are in the final year of the two-year FBS transition process, if they have at least a 6-6 record.

6. Finally, 5-7 teams that have a top-5 Academic Progress Rate (APR) score. This was later adjusted to allow other 5-7 teams to be selected thereafter—in order of their APR.


Bowl Eligibility

I must have missed GSU winning it's 6th game...

Didn't say that was a lock just showing that there is a possibility.

We are not going bowling this year and all this talk of winning the Sun Belt is way, way premature at this point. Let's just beat App. St. Thursday night-- how about that.

(09-21-2014 06:26 PM)I AM an Eagle! Wrote:  Didn't say that was a lock just showing that there is a possibility.

Someone on our home board ran the numbers and assuming nothing new pops up (no school decides to go on a team murder spree, or something like that), there mathematically HAS to be enough teams at 6-6 or greater to fill the existing bowls.

Having said that, it's not IMPOSSIBLE for say... a dozen teams to screw up and become bowl ineligible this season, opening a possibility for Georgia Southern (or App State) to be invited to a bowl.

I have a better chance at Hugh Heffner selling me the playboy mansion and all it's contents for the tidy sum of $14.86, but the possibility remains it COULD happen.

Here's where I have it after this week:

1) Louisiana Monroe - off this week
2) Arkansas State - won the battle between the teams that played Tennessee earlier this season
3) Georgia Southern - knocked off a team figured by many to be a player in the SBC race
4) New Mexico State - came this close to winning the New Mexico state championship.
5) Texas State - scared Illinois before succumbing
6) South Alabama - lost to SBC newcomer Georgia Southern
7) Appalachian State - lost to Southern Mississippi, not good
8) Louisiana-Lafayette - now on a three-game skid
9) Georgia State - had a tough loss against Washington
10) Idaho - came up short against Ohio
11) Troy - Blakeney has just been nominated for the Buddy Kent Hackett award.

(09-21-2014 04:34 PM)CatMom Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 04:20 PM)Baldy Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 01:42 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  We have 3 bowls. I suspect we will have 3 bowl eligible teams. What if we had 3 and GA So and there was an open bowl? Could the Sun Belt shift a team to an open bowl and let GA SO play in one of our tie-ins?

9 eligible teams but I think 4 teams will have a tough time getting bowl eligible - Troy, GA St., Idaho and NMSU.
That leaves stAte, UL, ULM, TX St. and USA as potential bowl teams.

Will they all make it?

Again, getting way ahead of ourselves here....BUT...The only way I see that GS gets to a bowl is if we win the conference outright, and of course apply for and receive a waiver.

What part of the rules/regulations for Bowl eligibility do you not grasp?

Calm down "Mom", it's all speculation. Do you know what that word means?

(09-21-2014 06:28 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  We are not going bowling this year and all this talk of winning the Sun Belt is way, way premature at this point. Let's just beat App. St. Thursday night-- how about that.

+1

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1) Georgia Southern - Quickly took care of business on the road in first SBC game. 3rd 60 plus yrd TD run for Breida.
2) Arkansas State - Nice OOC win that the SBC desperately needed
3) ULM - only win over a P5
4) Texas St - couldn't hold on vs P5 Illinois. We can relate.
5) USA - Solid D. Inconsistent O
6) ULL - Huds needs to get the team back.
7) NMSU - hard to put any of the next 5 ahead of the other so why not NMSU.
8) App St - the App of 5 years ago would be battling us for #1. Is Satterfield the right coach ?
9) Georgia State - Had their first flash of greatness. A meteor that was brilliantly bright......that quickly and spectacularly went down in flames.
10) Idaho - Hoping a piece of Boise will rub off on them one day.
11) Troy - At this point lets just talk about the good old days. Remember that Mizzou win?

(09-21-2014 06:28 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  We are not going bowling this year and all this talk of winning the Sun Belt is way, way premature at this point. Let's just beat App. St. Thursday night-- how about that.

The thing about this that I don't understand is we KNEW entering the SunBelt that we may win the conference but we would not be eligible for a bowl game the first year. Now, four games into the season, some GS fans want to modify the agreement because they think it's not fair. I hope I never engage in a contract with those people.

(09-21-2014 07:47 PM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(09-21-2014 06:28 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  We are not going bowling this year and all this talk of winning the Sun Belt is way, way premature at this point. Let's just beat App. St. Thursday night-- how about that.

The thing about this that I don't understand is we KNEW entering the SunBelt that we may win the conference but we would not be eligible for a bowl game the first year. Now, four games into the season, some GS fans want to modify the agreement because they think it's not fair. I hope I never engage in a contract with those people.

Nobody is saying that. All people have said is it would be nice to get a waiver from the ncaa. With that said we know that is not happening. I don't think they are deadbeats that don't honor contracts as you stated.

The thing is... There's no need for a waiver from the NCAA. There's already rules in place to allow you to a bowl game.

It is just that a TREMENDOUS amount of things are going to need to happen for you to get an invite.

(for example, the Independence bowl isn't going to say "no, we don't want stAte/ULM/USA... We want Georgia Southern".

(09-21-2014 07:59 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Nobody is saying that. All people have said is it would be nice to get a waiver from the ncaa. With that said we know that is not happening. I don't think they are deadbeats that don't honor contracts as you stated.

The rule is an unfair one. A school that transitions and wins its new conference is actually more deserving. What a storyline it would make for a bowl.

But, its the rule. There would be no harm in applying for a waiver just to highlight the problem. But the odds of a waiver being granted are way low.

(09-21-2014 07:34 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  1) Georgia Southern - Quickly took care of business on the road in first SBC game. 3rd 60 plus yrd TD run for Breida.
2) Arkansas State - Nice OOC win that the SBC desperately needed
3) ULM - only win over a P5
4) Texas St - couldn't hold on vs P5 Illinois. We can relate.
5) USA - Solid D. Inconsistent O
6) ULL - Huds needs to get the team back.
7) NMSU - hard to put any of the next 5 ahead of the other so why not NMSU.
8) App St - the App of 5 years ago would be battling us for #1. Is Satterfield the right coach ?
9) Georgia State - Had their first flash of greatness. A meteor that was brilliantly bright......that quickly and spectacularly went down in flames.
10) Idaho - Hoping a piece of Boise will rub off on them one day.
11) Troy - At this point lets just talk about the good old days. Remember that Mizzou win?

We don't have a coaching problem at AppState. We have a youth problem. We will get better and better. Despite the mistakes last night, I liked what I saw. Our future is very bright, and it will be with Satterfield at the helm.