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RE: Are we seeing a changing of the guard in the top tier of the Belt?
(09-18-2014 02:48 PM)moehler Wrote:  I doubt, from what I have seen so far this year, that App will finish with a better record than GS. I know its way too soon to predict the rest of the season, injuries playing a factor etc. but SS is redshirting most of the 2014 class, a class atleast on paper was the best in the SBC, and he has said often his goal was to compete for a SBC championship in 2015. I believe he is willing to make sacrifices this year in terms of wins, to perhaps put a great team on the field next year, he is trying to build depth. Now, that's little comfort when the loses start piling up, and yes, probably at GS, but the bottom line is, if these kids pan out next year, and play up to their potential, you better beat us this year, because starting next year we plan to be a fixture at the top of the conference for a long time.
I have not see AppSt and am looking forward to doing so.

The only thing that matters for the SBC's future is what kind of ceilings do all these newcomers to FBS have. There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever GaSo, GaSt, AppSt, TxSt and USA all have ceilings as high, or higher than any of the schools that left, or any of the schools currently in the SBC.

All will have success as FBS programs.
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09-18-2014 03:00 PM
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RE: Are we seeing a changing of the guard in the top tier of the Belt?
I don't want to sound arrogant, but I agree that the ceiling for the new teams, and health of the Conference is much higher than when the conference had teams such as FAU, FIU, I live here I South Florida, I see these teams first hand, and at the present, the future doesn't look great for these two programs, doesn't seem to be much momentum, or interest in either programs. Of course, that can change, but I don't see it happening in the near future. Its definitely going to be beneficial for both GS/App that we joined a conference where the interest is so high for almost every school. Remember, at away games both programs were use to playing in front of 5-6 thousand people sitting on their hands, not making much noise, some games we actually brought more fans than the home team had in attendance, its going to be pretty neat playing in front of 25-30 thousand screaming fans every weekend. From what I've seen the first 3 weeks in terms of support by the fans, its night and day compared to the Southern Conference, thanks for throwing us a lifeline.
09-18-2014 03:34 PM
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RE: Are we seeing a changing of the guard in the top tier of the Belt?
ugh. so glad we are out of that private school league.
09-18-2014 03:57 PM
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RE: Are we seeing a changing of the guard in the top tier of the Belt?
(09-18-2014 01:36 PM)moehler Wrote:  well, its cute to see GS fans are pumped up to play us, 2 weeks before the game, good to know we still demand that kind of attention and respect. Of course, I get it, we have owned you the last 6 or 7 years, including last years 38-6 drubbing, you guys cant wait to get your hands on us. To be honest I wish I could be as confident as you guys seem to be about your team, ya'll have looked great the first 3 weeks, but, your still 1-2, and you guys better be careful, I watched the first half of the MIss St./ South Alabama game, up to the last 5 minutes of the first half, they played better than Miss St, missed two chipshot field goals, and had a receiver drop a wide open pass that would have been a td, and their defense was solid, looks like they just ran out of gas as the game went on. If your team looks past USA to the App game, your going to be 1-3. As I said before, I don't think we are good enough, to thump our chest, and look ahead to GS, hopefully, we will play a great game against USM, get a win, and then start to have some confidence in our team.

moehler, i enjoy and look forward to seeing us play app every year. it's a short week to prepare for our game on Thursday night. its not as if app hasn't struggled against the option. what's it like losing to the citadel two years in a row?
09-19-2014 05:23 AM
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RE: Are we seeing a changing of the guard in the top tier of the Belt?
fair enough, I can ask you the same question, whats it like to lose to us, I believe, 5 out of the last 7 years , including last years beat down where you were actually a big favorite? For whatever reason the Cit had our number the last 2 years, but we have had yours the last seven. We are going to learn a lot about both teams this week, I think USA is going to give you more of a game than a lot of GS fans think, and we finally are going to learn something about our own team.
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(09-19-2014 07:09 AM)moehler Wrote:  fair enough, I can ask you the same question, whats it like to lose to us, I believe, 5 out of the last 7 years , including last years beat down where you were actually a big favorite? For whatever reason the Cit had our number the last 2 years, but we have had yours the last seven. We are going to learn a lot about both teams this week, I think USA is going to give you more of a game than a lot of GS fans think, and we finally are going to learn something about our own team.

I agree.
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(09-16-2014 12:37 AM)Bubba Bexley Wrote:  It looks like App. State, GSU-Statesboro and Texas State are rising to top while ULL, Troy and Arkansas State sink.

No, Bubber. We're not, at least not this year.
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(09-19-2014 07:09 AM)moehler Wrote:  fair enough, I can ask you the same question, whats it like to lose to us, I believe, 5 out of the last 7 years , including last years beat down where you were actually a big favorite? For whatever reason the Cit had our number the last 2 years, but we have had yours the last seven. We are going to learn a lot about both teams this week, I think USA is going to give you more of a game than a lot of GS fans think, and we finally are going to learn something about our own team.
those losses suck but at least it was against a strong team 03-banghead...and for the last 3 years we were playoff eligible we made a great run for the NC while y'all were essentially one and done in the playoffs 05-stirthepot but i digress. here's to hoping today you get a win at southern miss and we get one at usa then bring on thursday night 04-cheers
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RE: Are we seeing a changing of the guard in the top tier of the Belt?
(09-18-2014 02:45 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(09-18-2014 02:29 PM)eagle9098 Wrote:  
(09-17-2014 08:43 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(09-17-2014 08:33 AM)eagle9098 Wrote:  I notice a lot of folks saying things like don't sleep on some of the better SB teams or being to confident, speaking to the App and Georgia Southern fans. I think folks should remember its one thing for a fan to sleep on someone, its another for the team. What fans on a message board say has nothing to do with what a team is thinking or how they feel. I doubt the GSU or App football teams are going to sleep this year on any SB team.
Actually my comment was meant for every SBC team. Until they have been eliminated I would expect most to assume UL is the team to beat, and A-State and USA their biggest threats.

Most people that follow the SBC have learned not to read to much into how teams do in 'pre-season' games, but have also learned that in recent years that being the 'favorite' does not work out well either.

I just cut to the chase and base my prediction on which team has the most talent and depth. I find that works better.

I got it. I guess in a few more weeks we will have a better idea of how the conference is shaping up and how the two new guys are fitting in.

I think both are fitting in nicely, just hope at least a couple of SBC teams progress up the FBS ladder the next few weeks.

A-State's(the most talented team in the sbc) ceiling is not as high as I though it would be going into the year because their best OL quit, and a potential all-sbc lb was kicked off the team. They then lost a key member of their secondary(which really hurt them against Miami), and a couple of quality backups for the year.

Not making excuses for them, even with some starters sidelined, barring more injuries they should be favored in all their remaining games, just not sure how far up the FBS ladder they can climb being shorthanded.

Hopefully UL or one or more of the 3-4 other better teams will get it all together down the stretch, and become a good football team, because it is important for SBC teams to win their win bowl games.

I think as far as looking at climbing the FBS latter that you have to look at recruiting and the potential an individual school has there. Some schools have nice short runs in which they put together good teams or have good recruiting classes, but I think what matters is who can do it consistently. What program has the resources and area ( where they are located ) to consistently pull in the type of players they need. Also when people look at these signing classes they look at how many stars the kid has. The more important thing is to look at the other offers the kid has. He may have 3 stars and be committed to a SB school but then only has offers from other SB schools or FCS. Then you have the 3 star kid that's a SB commit and has offers from Con USA teams, or AAC, or ACC teams then you have a difference. To me these are things to look for as far as seeing who may be climbing the FBS latter. Of course none of this means anything unless you win games.
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(09-16-2014 12:37 AM)Bubba Bexley Wrote:  It looks like App. State, GSU-Statesboro and Texas State are rising to top while ULL, Troy and Arkansas State sink.

How can you even make that comment when most teams haven't even played a SBC game. You can't judge what will happen in the Sun Belt by what happens in OOC games.

Let's see what happens in the SBC first before you make a crazy comment like that. Maybe it is and maybe it's not, Bubba.
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Just interesting in us concentrating on one game today.
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(09-20-2014 12:59 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  
(09-16-2014 12:37 AM)Bubba Bexley Wrote:  It looks like App. State, GSU-Statesboro and Texas State are rising to top while ULL, Troy and Arkansas State sink.

How can you even make that comment when most teams haven't even played a SBC game. You can't judge what will happen in the Sun Belt by what happens in OOC games.

Let's see what happens in the SBC first before you make a crazy comment like that. Maybe it is and maybe it's not, Bubba.

Bubba's has to win a prize as the dumbest question of the week.
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Newbie ODU up 2 scores on old hand Rice.
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(09-20-2014 01:42 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Newbie ODU up 2 scores on old hand Rice.

GS had to come from behind 2 years ago to beat ODU. They have the same QB. He is really good.
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Are we seeing a changing of the guard in the top tier of the Belt?
I don't see it as a changing of the guard, more like adding to the guard. I'd even throw in USA and ULM to that group and you have 7 solid programs at the top of the conference.


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