(09-14-2014 04:36 PM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  If there are "no moral victories at Ga Southern", why are so many of our fans trying to make them? We completely ran out of gas at Raleigh and made mistakes on offense settling for FG's and fumbling in the red zone and allowed a team who probably won't win a conference game to easily steal a win.

In Atlanta, I watched Tech completely dominate the first half of football because our defense was sitting back trying to read the option instead of attacking it. How can a DC of an option team make that mistake? Once again depth and a turnover cost us a win after playing well enough in the 2nd half.

LOSS is the only stat that counts and the only one remembered.

South Alabama is a solid football team and GS will have to play our best game to get a win. Ga State is also greatly improved. The only games we should be favored in from here are NMSU and Idaho while being under dogs at Navy and Texas St and home against ULM. App, Troy, and Ga St are tossups. Injuries are starting to take their toll as well.

We came in to this season knowing we are 2-3 years away from catching up with depth and nothing has changed.

Trying to understand the point you are making. Why the f does it matter that GT dominated the first half? That is an arbitrary end point. Wouldn't dominating the second half mean more? Especially with the corrupt overturn?

(09-14-2014 09:42 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 03:29 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Sammy Baker. We signed this contract as an FCS team. No way in hell should the ACC officials by doing that game.

We're not going to have much luck getting SBC officials at a game like that. We might be able to swing having the replay officials from the SBC, but that's about it.

Why? That is the standard for an FBS vs FBS OOC game. Especially if no return game is made.

(09-14-2014 08:14 PM)bamaEagle Wrote:  I have been saying this since yesterday, that call by the officials did not lose us the game. Us getting curb stomped in the first half cost us the game. Sure, the fumble call hurt us, but we did have a chance to stop GT after it, shouldn't be too tough of a task since they hadn't scored in about 2 hours. Losses suck, I get it, but I'm tired of hearing that that fumble was the sole reason that we lost. Hopefully we come out pissed this week and win our first FBS game as an FBS member. Hail Southern!

Well said, bamaEagle.

(09-15-2014 03:34 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 09:42 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 03:29 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Sammy Baker. We signed this contract as an FCS team. No way in hell should the ACC officials by doing that game.

We're not going to have much luck getting SBC officials at a game like that. We might be able to swing having the replay officials from the SBC, but that's about it.

Why? That is the standard for an FBS vs FBS OOC game. Especially if no return game is made.

I thought so too but I've been seeing a lot of home team refs in these guarantee games. It's not outside the realm of imagination that we could get it, but it would be difficult.

(09-15-2014 03:33 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Trying to understand the point you are making. Why the f does it matter that GT dominated the first half? That is an arbitrary end point. Wouldn't dominating the second half mean more? Especially with the corrupt overturn?

I think the point being made about the first half is if we don't spot them a 25 point lead, then one single play doesn't change the world. Similar to the NCSU game. If we score TDs instead of FGs in the red zone, all the "excuses" (fumble, conditioning) become a non-issue. Yes, we are a hair short of being 3-0, but we are 1-2. 1 mistake, 1 bad call, 1 whatever didn't cost us either game by itself. We should have never been in position for that to hurt us. If we play like we know and proved we can, we walk away from both games with fairly dominate wins and everyone is happy.

(09-15-2014 07:11 AM)Pike51 Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 03:33 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Trying to understand the point you are making. Why the f does it matter that GT dominated the first half? That is an arbitrary end point. Wouldn't dominating the second half mean more? Especially with the corrupt overturn?

I think the point being made about the first half is if we don't spot them a 25 point lead, then one single play doesn't change the world. Similar to the NCSU game. If we score TDs instead of FGs in the red zone, all the "excuses" (fumble, conditioning) become a non-issue. Yes, we are a hair short of being 3-0, but we are 1-2. 1 mistake, 1 bad call, 1 whatever didn't cost us either game by itself. We should have never been in position for that to hurt us. If we play like we know and proved we can, we walk away from both games with fairly dominate wins and everyone is happy.

Pike, this is obviously Sam Bakers fault. The dude has a lead pipe locked argument.

(09-15-2014 03:33 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 04:36 PM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  If there are "no moral victories at Ga Southern", why are so many of our fans trying to make them? We completely ran out of gas at Raleigh and made mistakes on offense settling for FG's and fumbling in the red zone and allowed a team who probably won't win a conference game to easily steal a win.

In Atlanta, I watched Tech completely dominate the first half of football because our defense was sitting back trying to read the option instead of attacking it. How can a DC of an option team make that mistake? Once again depth and a turnover cost us a win after playing well enough in the 2nd half.

LOSS is the only stat that counts and the only one remembered.

South Alabama is a solid football team and GS will have to play our best game to get a win. Ga State is also greatly improved. The only games we should be favored in from here are NMSU and Idaho while being under dogs at Navy and Texas St and home against ULM. App, Troy, and Ga St are tossups. Injuries are starting to take their toll as well.

We came in to this season knowing we are 2-3 years away from catching up with depth and nothing has changed.

Trying to understand the point you are making. Why the f does it matter that GT dominated the first half? That is an arbitrary end point. Wouldn't dominating the second half mean more? Especially with the corrupt overturn?

Yes winning the second half is the most important. Good teams always own the second half and Tech was pumped and ready for this game. We pounded them in the second. Their D was gassed. That was the first time Ive ever seen us punish a FBS D where they were hands on hips and guys were falling out like flys. Second half, especially the 4th quarter is very important in football and the players know it.

Eagleskin, I disagree about a toss up against Troy, Georgia State, right now, I think your a clear favorite against those 2 teams. Having said that, I think it gets more difficult going forward, teams now have tape on you guys, and every game they get alittle more familiar with your team and playmakers. I also wonder with such an aggressive early schedule NCST, GT, is going to hurt you later in the year in terms of injuries and fatique. I think the USA game is going to tell us alot about your team going forward, not offense to USA, but the GS coach might have a challenge this week getting his team mentally prepared for the game, I don't think you could blame the players, after what happen last week at GT, that if they come out flat against USA. If they come out ready to play, and they take it to USA and win the game, I think it 1. says alot about your coaching staff, and how they were able to get them ready 2. I think it would be a great "jumping off point" for the rest of the season. I think we will learn alot about GS, and for that matter App this coming weekend.

(09-15-2014 08:17 AM)moehler Wrote:  Eagleskin, I disagree about a toss up against Troy, Georgia State, right now, I think your a clear favorite against those 2 teams. Having said that, I think it gets more difficult going forward, teams now have tape on you guys, and every game they get alittle more familiar with your team and playmakers. I also wonder with such an aggressive early schedule NCST, GT, is going to hurt you later in the year in terms of injuries and fatique. I think the USA game is going to tell us alot about your team going forward, not offense to USA, but the GS coach might have a challenge this week getting his team mentally prepared for the game, I don't think you could blame the players, after what happen last week at GT, that if they come out flat against USA. If they come out ready to play, and they take it to USA and win the game, I think it 1. says alot about your coaching staff, and how they were able to get them ready 2. I think it would be a great "jumping off point" for the rest of the season. I think we will learn alot about GS, and for that matter App this coming weekend.

To help with the injury/fatigue thing our byes are mid to late season. We've got a pretty smart schedule.

(09-15-2014 07:11 AM)Pike51 Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 03:33 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Trying to understand the point you are making. Why the f does it matter that GT dominated the first half? That is an arbitrary end point. Wouldn't dominating the second half mean more? Especially with the corrupt overturn?

I think the point being made about the first half is if we don't spot them a 25 point lead, then one single play doesn't change the world. Similar to the NCSU game. If we score TDs instead of FGs in the red zone, all the "excuses" (fumble, conditioning) become a non-issue. Yes, we are a hair short of being 3-0, but we are 1-2. 1 mistake, 1 bad call, 1 whatever didn't cost us either game by itself. We should have never been in position for that to hurt us. If we play like we know and proved we can, we walk away from both games with fairly dominate wins and everyone is happy.

Thanks Pike. I've had him on ignore for so long and on every site that I don't know he replies unless someone else quotes him. Amazing how some things never change.

For what it's worth, I have it on good authority that the ACC has reached out to the Sun Belt to apologize for the blown call.

Not that apologies mean much, but it's more than you usually get after a controversial call like that.

(09-15-2014 03:26 PM)CC Eagle Wrote:  For what it's worth, I have it on good authority that the ACC has reached out to the Sun Belt to apologize for the blown call.

Not that apologies mean much, but it's more than you usually get after a controversial call like that.

If true I would like to see it in writing still it changes nothing but adds weight to the moral victory crowd. Moral victory or not the L is still in the loss column and the ACC apologizing is not going to change that.

Would love to see an official release. Total crap.

(09-15-2014 03:26 PM)CC Eagle Wrote:  For what it's worth, I have it on good authority that the ACC has reached out to the Sun Belt to apologize for the blown call.

Not that apologies mean much, but it's more than you usually get after a controversial call like that.

Means nothing to me if the so called official in the the booth that out right lied for the ACC is fired. If these officials are not heald accountable for bull$h!t calls like this. They will continue to do so. If coaches are fined money for calling out refs then refs should be fined for causing a team a victory.

We put the ball on the ground and forced the officials to make a call. It was very close and didn't go our way. South Alabama is this week and is an even more important game.

(09-15-2014 05:25 PM)Eaglessoar2014 Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 03:26 PM)CC Eagle Wrote:  For what it's worth, I have it on good authority that the ACC has reached out to the Sun Belt to apologize for the blown call.

Not that apologies mean much, but it's more than you usually get after a controversial call like that.

Means nothing to me if the so called official in the the booth that out right lied for the ACC is fired. If these officials are not heald accountable for bull$h!t calls like this. They will continue to do so. If coaches are fined money for calling out refs then refs should be fined for causing a team a victory.

Another moral victory? The fact is, we would never see a dime of that money and I have no desire to enrich the NCAA anymore than it already is.

Why do you care at this point? Complaining accomplishes nothing more than making our fanbase look like whiners. We lost. Move on.