I heard from a local source, the coaching staff of women's basketball at Appalachian has been fired due to complaints filed by the student athletes.


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This sounds sort of like the "abuse of players" reason. I guess there is no good time for this but to replace the coaching staff about a month before Fall workouts start is not good.

Along those lines, I'm sure I'll get flack but hey I'll report the stuff I hear even if it isn't good news


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Well, I know who the next SWA at ETSU will be then.

Officially, she resigned today. I'm sure they gave her the opportunity to do so.

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(09-05-2014 09:47 PM)hapapp Wrote:  Officially, she resigned today. I'm sure they gave her the opportunity to do so.

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Resigned officially at 10:20 PM. I'm hearing she was escorted off the campus. Rumors swirling about inappropriate behavior. I'm glad she's gone. Never cared for her. Former men's coaches told me she would dog cuss the players so bad it embarrassed them. She ran off a ton of players, many she recruited. Check out the grades (graded by players anonymously) on coachgrader.com. Check out these quotes attributed to her by some of those players. No place for that type of behavior in college athletics.

http://www.coachgrader.com/coach-darcie-vincent.585

(09-05-2014 11:50 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(09-05-2014 09:47 PM)hapapp Wrote:  Officially, she resigned today. I'm sure they gave her the opportunity to do so.

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Resigned officially at 10:20 PM. I'm hearing she was escorted off the campus. Rumors swirling about inappropriate behavior. I'm glad she's gone. Never cared for her. Former men's coaches told me she would dog cuss the players so bad it embarrassed them. She ran off a ton of players, many she recruited. Check out the grades (graded by players anonymously) on coachgrader.com. Check out these quotes attributed to her by some of those players. No place for that type of behavior in college athletics.

http://www.coachgrader.com/coach-darcie-vincent.585

Looks like 2 people took part in the rating.

(09-05-2014 11:50 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(09-05-2014 09:47 PM)hapapp Wrote:  Officially, she resigned today. I'm sure they gave her the opportunity to do so.

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Resigned officially at 10:20 PM. I'm hearing she was escorted off the campus. Rumors swirling about inappropriate behavior. I'm glad she's gone. Never cared for her. Former men's coaches told me she would dog cuss the players so bad it embarrassed them. She ran off a ton of players, many she recruited. Check out the grades (graded by players anonymously) on coachgrader.com. Check out these quotes attributed to her by some of those players. No place for that type of behavior in college athletics.

http://www.coachgrader.com/coach-darcie-vincent.585

How many did she run off. I can only think of a few and that was early on and not her recruits. I might be forgetting some however.

I'm not sure of how many, but it has been several. She ran off three young ladies her first year, five the second year, and four her third year including Ashlyn Dewart, soph, who missed the FT's that could have won the SC Tournament her third year. She transferred to UTC and became all SoCon. Two players also left in 2012.

My source stated it was indeed a player vote that sent them off.
As far as I can tell from what I heard it was very much the staffs demeanor towards their athletes

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(09-06-2014 10:09 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  I'm not sure of how many, but it has been several. She ran off three young ladies her first year, five the second year, and four her third year including Ashlyn Dewart, soph, who missed the FT's that could have won the SC Tournament her third year. She transferred to UTC and became all SoCon. Two players also left in 2012.

The first three years were not here recruits in all fairness, thought that is still a lot even with a new coach.

A moot point now.

(09-07-2014 06:29 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 10:09 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  I'm not sure of how many, but it has been several. She ran off three young ladies her first year, five the second year, and four her third year including Ashlyn Dewart, soph, who missed the FT's that could have won the SC Tournament her third year. She transferred to UTC and became all SoCon. Two players also left in 2012.

The first three years were not here recruits in all fairness, thought that is still a lot even with a new coach.

A moot point now.

The freshmen and sophomores who left during Darcie's third year were absolutely her recruits.

(09-07-2014 07:20 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 06:29 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 10:09 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  I'm not sure of how many, but it has been several. She ran off three young ladies her first year, five the second year, and four her third year including Ashlyn Dewart, soph, who missed the FT's that could have won the SC Tournament her third year. She transferred to UTC and became all SoCon. Two players also left in 2012.

The first three years were not here recruits in all fairness, thought that is still a lot even with a new coach.

A moot point now.

The freshmen and sophomores who left during Darcie's third year were absolutely her recruits.

True.

Darcie came from DII coaching. I wonder if she goes back that way or leaves coaching. She did not make so much money that she could go jobless for the rest of her life. On paper she has good credentials I think, but her inter-personal skills seem to be a bit of a concern, and I would imagine the small community of DI WBB schools will be able to fill in details one way or another.

Darcie was making $139,000 and her girlfriend / assistant coach (it's a well know fact) was making $86,000. I think $225,000 in a town where the medium household income is a little less than $50,000 is a significant amount of money to toss away.

Not sure how fast she will be able to find another job with this type of resigning. She will be hard pressed to find anything this season and to have this on her resume it's going to be hard for her to find something on this level again.

(09-07-2014 05:40 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Darcie was making $139,000 and her girlfriend / assistant coach (it's a well know fact) was making $86,000. I think $225,000 in a town where the medium household income is a little less than $50,000 is a significant amount of money to toss away.

I don't know what professors make at App on average, but a WBB coach that, yes, had success, but also had low attendance to pull in that amount and the asst pull in $86,000 is just way too much in my view. I think every coach makes to much, but for what is a very low revenue sport, that is just too much in my view.

I am guessing Title IX, which I support, plays some role in pay equity between WBB and MBB. If that is the case, then lower the MBB coaches salary for all of I care. They make too much as well.

(09-07-2014 06:54 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 05:40 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Darcie was making $139,000 and her girlfriend / assistant coach (it's a well know fact) was making $86,000. I think $225,000 in a town where the medium household income is a little less than $50,000 is a significant amount of money to toss away.

I don't know what professors make at App on average, but a WBB coach that, yes, had success, but also had low attendance to pull in that amount and the asst pull in $86,000 is just way too much in my view. I think every coach makes to much, but for what is a very low revenue sport, that is just too much in my view.

I am guessing Title IX, which I support, plays some role in pay equity between WBB and MBB. If that is the case, then lower the MBB coaches salary for all of I care. They make too much as well.

In comparison to the rest of the SB our basketball coaches make far from too much. We ain't in Kansas anymore. I'd be more inclined to reduce the ridiculous number of sports we sponsor and fold that into the programs. Not just to afford FBS, but to be able to hire quality coaches and pay them in comparable to what their peers make.

Here's a little FYI for you. Baseball coach Billy Jones is making $90K, his top assistant $40K and the other $30K. The Dugout Club was formed several years ago by former coach Chris Pollard to fund expenses outside the budget, not salaries. The baseball staff also buys and sells their own apparel and concessions. Girlfriends of the players work the concession & souvenir stands. Two years ago Cobb cut the baseball budget by the amount of $'s brought in by these. In 2013-14 the baseball program generated more revenue than the mens and womens basketball teams COMBINED. This spring Cobb informed coach Jones he would be taking ALL the money generated by the concession and souvenir sales AND the Dugout Club donations and folding it into the general athletic budget. Considering the differences in salaries and revenue generated between baseball and the basketball staff's Billy Jones was not a very happy camper. Its a good bet he would have been gone at the first opportunity. Now he is waiting to see how the new AD handles the situation.

(09-07-2014 10:34 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 06:54 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 05:40 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Darcie was making $139,000 and her girlfriend / assistant coach (it's a well know fact) was making $86,000. I think $225,000 in a town where the medium household income is a little less than $50,000 is a significant amount of money to toss away.

I don't know what professors make at App on average, but a WBB coach that, yes, had success, but also had low attendance to pull in that amount and the asst pull in $86,000 is just way too much in my view. I think every coach makes to much, but for what is a very low revenue sport, that is just too much in my view.

I am guessing Title IX, which I support, plays some role in pay equity between WBB and MBB. If that is the case, then lower the MBB coaches salary for all of I care. They make too much as well.

In comparison to the rest of the SB our basketball coaches make far from too much. We ain't in Kansas anymore. I'd be more inclined to reduce the ridiculous number of sports we sponsor and fold that into the programs. Not just to afford FBS, but to be able to hire quality coaches and pay them in comparable to what their peers make.

Here's a little FYI for you. Baseball coach Billy Jones is making $90K, his top assistant $40K and the other $30K. The Dugout Club was formed several years ago by former coach Chris Pollard to fund expenses outside the budget, not salaries. The baseball staff also buys and sells their own apparel and concessions. Girlfriends of the players work the concession & souvenir stands. Two years ago Cobb cut the baseball budget by the amount of $'s brought in by these. In 2013-14 the baseball program generated more revenue than the mens and womens basketball teams COMBINED. This spring Cobb informed coach Jones he would be taking ALL the money generated by the concession and souvenir sales AND the Dugout Club donations and folding it into the general athletic budget. Considering the differences in salaries and revenue generated between baseball and the basketball staff's Billy Jones was not a very happy camper. Its a good bet he would have been gone at the first opportunity. Now he is waiting to see how the new AD handles the situation.

Obviously, I like and follow college sports. I am on this board, and YC/MMB. However,knowing the salaries are partly on the back of students with fees, and not optional fees, then the coaches need to not be paid so much. I know I am fighting a loosing battle, but I stand by my statement. With that said, the money raised by the dugout club should not leave the BB/SB area except under some very dire reasons. For Title IX reasons I would not be upset is BB and SB shared the donations and concessions as long as it was clear that was happening with both teams.

But back to my point, coaches make to much, and I would just as soon prefer App not play the same game as everyone else. Call me Don Quixote on this.

Have never understood why we have to have so many sports. Always figured they
were going to add snow skiing, fencing, sand volleyball, tubing, kayaking, canoeing, logging,
hiking, para sailing, and quidditch as official sports at anytime.

(09-08-2014 04:07 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Have never understood why we have to have so many sports. Always figured they
were going to add snow skiing, fencing, sand volleyball, tubing, kayaking, canoeing, logging,
hiking, para sailing, and quidditch as official sports at anytime.

I would not mind if all of those were added as sports and at the DI non club level, with the understanding the funding would be largly internal and the coach might get some release time from teaching but the coach was a professor or staff member first.

Snow skiing might could work for us. I am not sure if the mtns have enough of a drop. Fencing could work. Sand volleyball might work, but moving the sand in and out of either Varsity or Holmes would be a problem. Rowing would be a problem due to not having a long pond nearby. As good as club cycling has been that should be the next sport. I like the variety personally, just do it with lower paid coaches and staff.