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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
I think that we will eventually be forced into a 9 game conf schedule because the ACC and SEC will probably adopt a 9 game conf schedule themselves at some point. If that happens and nothing else changes then I think moving ULM east and making NMSU a full member would be the best choice. That way each team would play all five members of it's own division and four of the six in the opposing division plus set one permanent cross-over game which for ULM would be ULL.
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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
LOL. Ole Sleepy needs to go back to bed.
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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
Were good at 11.Let's see how all the extra expenses shake down with P5 autonomy as it relates to the health of our present conference mates before we give a FREE ticket to FBS to ANY school.

I do not see the national black eye with no Championship Game,we get them regularly on everything else.

Would love a push for bigger entry/exit fees to substantiate this conference amongst our very own selves.Perception rehab begins with a look in the mirror.
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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
(08-23-2014 07:29 AM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  
(08-22-2014 10:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-22-2014 09:24 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  
(08-22-2014 08:58 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  LOL. Maybe we can get a replacement for Idaho in 4 years--- EKU, Liberty or JMU.

In all seriousness, it should be Idaho. They require a flight no matter what division they are in.

Please. USA wants some competition. Sticking USA with Idaho, Ga State, 2 newbies, and Troy isn't really fair to either USA or Troy.

I think moving ULL east would make sense in that case.

In that case, you'd see the east with USA, Troy and ULL
the west would be A State, ULM, and Texas State

ULL would have ULM as its cross rival
A State would have Troy
USA would have Texas State

It works.
Some competition? Are you serious? We have more national championships than you do years playing football and you have the nerve to infer we won't be competitive?

Jaguar tears are almost as tasty as Panther tears.

I'm sure you'll be competitive, but moving Idaho east is pretty much the same as taking Troy and USA and putting them in a new conference. And given the past history of the Belt, I would put the two strongest teams (historically) in the same division.
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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
(08-23-2014 07:46 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  I think that we will eventually be forced into a 9 game conf schedule because the ACC and SEC will probably adopt a 9 game conf schedule themselves at some point. If that happens and nothing else changes then I think moving ULM east and making NMSU a full member would be the best choice. That way each team would play all five members of it's own division and four of the six in the opposing division plus set one permanent cross-over game which for ULM would be ULL.

In this scenario ULM vs stAte and Louisiana vs South Al would be better cross division rivals. It's easier to get to Mobile from Lafayette than it is to get to ULM. Same can be said with Jonesboro and Monroe.
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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
You do have Idaho as the "eastern" team if they plan on adding a truly eastern team in the near future (say if EKU is on track for being added in 2 years). doing otherwise would be silly as it would be a reshuffling of the conference followed by another reshuffling.
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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
(08-22-2014 09:24 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  
(08-22-2014 08:58 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  LOL. Maybe we can get a replacement for Idaho in 4 years--- EKU, Liberty or JMU.

In all seriousness, it should be Idaho. They require a flight no matter what division they are in.

Yes it sounds insane but it makes sense.....remember when San Diego State was going to the Big East......Heck a lot more sense than that...
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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
(08-22-2014 10:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-22-2014 09:24 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  
(08-22-2014 08:58 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  LOL. Maybe we can get a replacement for Idaho in 4 years--- EKU, Liberty or JMU.

In all seriousness, it should be Idaho. They require a flight no matter what division they are in.

Please. USA wants some competition. Sticking USA with Idaho, Ga State, 2 newbies, and Troy isn't really fair to either USA or Troy.

I think moving ULL east would make sense in that case.

In that case, you'd see the east with USA, Troy and ULL
the west would be A State, ULM, and Texas State

ULL would have ULM as its cross rival
A State would have Troy
USA would have Texas State

It works.
This one works the best

Astate and Louisiana are only rivals due to competition here lately.

East:
Louisiana
S. Alabama
Troy
App st
Georgia st
Georgia southern

West:
Arkansas state
Texas state
New Mexico State
Missouri state
ULm
Idaho

This is also the most balanced. Astate and UL on opposite sides. 3 Lower mover yo type teams. I considered Idaho a move up just bc they are not permanent and wouldn't be surprised to see them move down.
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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
(08-22-2014 08:58 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  LOL. Maybe we can get a replacement for Idaho in 4 years--- EKU, Liberty or JMU.

EKU, Liberty or JMU? LOL! We need to Bolt ASAP!
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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
S. AL calling folks newbies. I can't tell if he's serious or trolling.
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If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
(08-23-2014 09:34 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-23-2014 07:29 AM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  
(08-22-2014 10:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-22-2014 09:24 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  
(08-22-2014 08:58 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  LOL. Maybe we can get a replacement for Idaho in 4 years--- EKU, Liberty or JMU.

In all seriousness, it should be Idaho. They require a flight no matter what division they are in.

Please. USA wants some competition. Sticking USA with Idaho, Ga State, 2 newbies, and Troy isn't really fair to either USA or Troy.

I think moving ULL east would make sense in that case.

In that case, you'd see the east with USA, Troy and ULL
the west would be A State, ULM, and Texas State

ULL would have ULM as its cross rival
A State would have Troy
USA would have Texas State

It works.
Some competition? Are you serious? We have more national championships than you do years playing football and you have the nerve to infer we won't be competitive?

Jaguar tears are almost as tasty as Panther tears.

I'm sure you'll be competitive, but moving Idaho east is pretty much the same as taking Troy and USA and putting them in a new conference. And given the past history of the Belt, I would put the two strongest teams (historically) in the same division.

So they can beat up on each other and diminish their chances to get in the access bowl?



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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
(08-23-2014 12:29 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  S. AL calling folks newbies. I can't tell if he's serious or trolling.

Why would they be trolling? USA isn't a newbie.
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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
In football the logical decision is Idaho to the east and have one permanent crossover game with NMSU being their permanent opponent. The west teams get the raw deal unless either Idaho or NMSU goes east. Remember, Las Cruces is the same distance from Lafayette as James Madison so the west teams end up with an annual very long trip (assuming no one ever travels to both the same year).

In basketball the better answer is to play without divisions, play an 18 or 16 game schedule without divisions, and assign 2 or 3 or 4 opponents as a permanent home and home opponents.
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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
From a program that has had football since 1928 yes they are a newbie.
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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
I hope we play with NO divisions in other sports other than football. In football I am warming up to the idea of Idaho playing in the East then if Idaho exits in 4 years and is replaced by EKU, JMU or some other eastern program they would just replace Idaho in the East.
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RE: If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
(08-23-2014 12:44 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  
(08-23-2014 09:34 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-23-2014 07:29 AM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  
(08-22-2014 10:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-22-2014 09:24 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  In all seriousness, it should be Idaho. They require a flight no matter what division they are in.

Please. USA wants some competition. Sticking USA with Idaho, Ga State, 2 newbies, and Troy isn't really fair to either USA or Troy.

I think moving ULL east would make sense in that case.

In that case, you'd see the east with USA, Troy and ULL
the west would be A State, ULM, and Texas State

ULL would have ULM as its cross rival
A State would have Troy
USA would have Texas State

It works.
Some competition? Are you serious? We have more national championships than you do years playing football and you have the nerve to infer we won't be competitive?

Jaguar tears are almost as tasty as Panther tears.

I'm sure you'll be competitive, but moving Idaho east is pretty much the same as taking Troy and USA and putting them in a new conference. And given the past history of the Belt, I would put the two strongest teams (historically) in the same division.

So they can beat up on each other and diminish their chances to get in the access bowl?



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Mistake was mine. I meant put them in separate divisions.
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(08-23-2014 12:57 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  In football the logical decision is Idaho to the east and have one permanent crossover game with NMSU being their permanent opponent. The west teams get the raw deal unless either Idaho or NMSU goes east. Remember, Las Cruces is the same distance from Lafayette as James Madison so the west teams end up with an annual very long trip (assuming no one ever travels to both the same year).

In basketball the better answer is to play without divisions, play an 18 or 16 game schedule without divisions, and assign 2 or 3 or 4 opponents as a permanent home and home opponents.

We will trade with a team in the West if y'all'd like to do so.
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(08-22-2014 09:00 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  Though geographically Arkansas State would be the most logical team to move to the east, I think la-la and Astate officials would be adament about staying in the same division and Lafayette seems like an obvious western team based on location.

ULM would be pretty vocal about remaining in the same division with Astate and La-La as well; with that said, I think the three would all get their way and Missouri state would be the odd man out and go to the east.

NOW, lets say both Idaho and NMSU leaves or dropped out of the conference and both Missouri state and Eastern Kentucky gets picked up, then you'd see the bears in the west and the Colonels in the east.

If Idaho is dropped and NMSU gets a full invite...I think you could see astate move to the east.

Yep, I don't see Arky State or UL moving to the East to accommodate two divisions.
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(08-23-2014 10:28 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(08-23-2014 07:46 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  I think that we will eventually be forced into a 9 game conf schedule because the ACC and SEC will probably adopt a 9 game conf schedule themselves at some point. If that happens and nothing else changes then I think moving ULM east and making NMSU a full member would be the best choice. That way each team would play all five members of it's own division and four of the six in the opposing division plus set one permanent cross-over game which for ULM would be ULL.

In this scenario ULM vs stAte and Louisiana vs South Al would be better cross division rivals. It's easier to get to Mobile from Lafayette than it is to get to ULM. Same can be said with Jonesboro and Monroe.

While I understand that South Alabama would make a great rival beyond baseball, softball and basketball, Monroe is 3 hours and 15 minutes from Lafayette. Mobile is 4 hours or more if you hit Baton Rouge at the wrong time.
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If Missouri St becomes 12th FB team, who goes to Eastern division?
For the sake of an easier Eastern Division I would favor Idaho over StAte, Louisiana, or ULM. Followed by Mo State and ULM. Purely being cynical.


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