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RE: Astate, La La, TXST, Idaho, NMSU...the new SWC?
(08-23-2014 11:26 AM)MG61 Wrote:  Get a life. So we think you are kinda irrelevant and haven't played you in 20 years. So jealous and have so much hatred for UNT. 07-coffee3

Yea, irrelevant, that's why you started visiting BCF when we first started in the WAC. At the time you were informative and cordial. Then we moved to the SBC and you're true colors came through (or so it seems)

Jealousy? NOT
Hatred...no; just mostly annoyed 03-yawn

The OP was just someone's thought and something to pass the time until the new season starts. It's interesting that posters from other conferences focus on TXST never having a right to do anything if they don't.
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RE: Astate, La La, TXST, Idaho, NMSU...the new SWC?
(08-23-2014 03:35 PM)MG61 Wrote:  Yep just like belt posters who magically appear on the CUSA board. When that stops, you will no longer see me and a few others here. What goes round does come around. You stay home and then ask for others to stay home.

Sorry, I forgot you were a follower.

Sad, sad man. Trolling is all you have I guess.
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RE: Astate, La La, TXST, Idaho, NMSU...the new SWC?
(08-23-2014 09:51 AM)CatMom Wrote:  
(08-23-2014 08:21 AM)Lollipop Coog Wrote:  The SWC is owned and trademarked by The Big XII and such a historic conference shouldn't have its name soiled.

New name Coog? Were you even alive then?

FYI
http://csnbbs.com/thread-690553-post-107...id10784356

He is a Lamar grad and Lamar is associated with TXST by virtue of being part of the TSUS. I said someone associated with TXST (ties to). I didn't say he went there nor that the U owned the name.

The intellectual rights are owned by the Texas Sports Hall of Fame; not the B12.

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RE: Astate, La La, TXST, Idaho, NMSU...the new SWC?
(08-23-2014 04:43 PM)MG61 Wrote:  
(08-23-2014 04:02 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(08-23-2014 03:35 PM)MG61 Wrote:  Yep just like belt posters who magically appear on the CUSA board. When that stops, you will no longer see me and a few others here. What goes round does come around. You stay home and then ask for others to stay home.

Sorry, I forgot you were a follower.

Sad, sad man. Trolling is all you have I guess.

You really need to get a grip on life. You're pitiful.07-coffee3

This guy is almost as much of a joke as the team he roots for. Mods?
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(08-21-2014 03:06 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  Arkansas State, Idaho, Louisiana-Lafayette, Missouri State, Northern Iowa, Texas State, and Wichita State would be an awesome foundation to a new conference.

put together a google map with TV market sizes shown

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?m...PztlXAsKjQ
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RE: Astate, La La, TXST, Idaho, NMSU...the new SWC?
(08-23-2014 05:04 PM)runninjoe Wrote:  
(08-23-2014 04:43 PM)MG61 Wrote:  
(08-23-2014 04:02 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(08-23-2014 03:35 PM)MG61 Wrote:  Yep just like belt posters who magically appear on the CUSA board. When that stops, you will no longer see me and a few others here. What goes round does come around. You stay home and then ask for others to stay home.

Sorry, I forgot you were a follower.

Sad, sad man. Trolling is all you have I guess.

You really need to get a grip on life. You're pitiful.07-coffee3

This guy is almost as much of a joke as the team he roots for. Mods?

I see no problem now. Magic.
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RE: Astate, La La, TXST, Idaho, NMSU...the new SWC?
(08-23-2014 05:08 PM)msu_bears Wrote:  
(08-21-2014 03:06 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  Arkansas State, Idaho, Louisiana-Lafayette, Missouri State, Northern Iowa, Texas State, and Wichita State would be an awesome foundation to a new conference.

put together a google map with TV market sizes shown

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?m...PztlXAsKjQ

Could not open your page/map.
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RE: Astate, La La, TXST, Idaho, NMSU...the new SWC?
(08-22-2014 05:03 PM)MG61 Wrote:  
(08-21-2014 03:06 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  This guy would like to see it.

http://www.underdogdynasty.com/2014/8/21...conference

Te old SWC was full of high flying offense that was exciting to watch. Houston's Andre Ware brought the program more notoriety than ever before. The SWC was also full of renegades, highlighted by SMU and their fat wallets. We need more of Eric Dickerson and his gold hot rod. For any of the negatives that the old conference represented, it also brings back memories of rivalries and just plain old fun.

With the death of the WAC, the unsteady position of Idaho and New Mexico State, and the overall spread out vastness of the Sun Belt, I start thinking about what would happen if a new conference based on schools mostly between the Mississippi River and the Rocky Mountains came into being.

You would have to start with football programs that already play at the FBS level. Arkansas State, Louisiana-Lafayette, Texas State, Idaho, and New Mexico State come to mind. Do those schools really have much in common with the Alabama and Georgia schools that make up the core of the Sun Belt? The Sun Belt seems destined to evolve more into an eastern league with the addition of Appalachian State and the discussion of adding programs like Liberty, James Madison, and Eastern Kentucky.

The key would be forming a new league that highlighted high flying offense in addition to high quality basketball. That's where the western schools of the Missouri Valley come in. Wichita State needs to bring back football and they already have a 30,000 seat stadium in place. Creighton is gone, so what would be holding them back? Missouri State has been flirting with the idea of moving up and Northern Iowa could join Idaho as another dome team in the new conference.

Arkansas State, Idaho, Louisiana-Lafayette, Missouri State, Northern Iowa, Texas State, and Wichita State would be an awesome foundation to a new conference. The basketball would be outstanding. Wichita State, Missouri State, and New Mexico State have a history together in the old Missouri Valley Conference when it sponsored football. North Texas and Tulsa were also part of the fun. Denver and Texas-Arlington would be good additions if they added football, or maybe a Western Illinois, Lamar, or Houston Baptist would move up and join the fun.

There are too many logistics to starting a new conference for this to ever work, but that's the kind of thing that rolls around inside my empty brain.

New SWC ? Finally stopped laughing. What a croch. Good Grief hop football starts soon and puts an end ridiculoua posts like this/.

Your spelling has going south since you folks defected to coosa.
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RE: Astate, La La, TXST, Idaho, NMSU...the new SWC?
(08-22-2014 07:26 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(08-22-2014 05:03 PM)MG61 Wrote:  New SWC ? Finally stopped laughing. What a croch. Good Grief hop football starts soon and puts an end ridiculoua posts like this/.

When football season does start, does that mean you'll have something else to do besides troll a conference you're not a part of?

I know... wishful thinking.

We can only hope.
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(08-23-2014 03:56 PM)CatMom Wrote:  
(08-23-2014 11:26 AM)MG61 Wrote:  Get a life. So we think you are kinda irrelevant and haven't played you in 20 years. So jealous and have so much hatred for UNT. 07-coffee3

Yea, irrelevant, that's why you started visiting BCF when we first started in the WAC. At the time you were informative and cordial. Then we moved to the SBC and you're true colors came through (or so it seems)

He's one of the UNTs who believes North Texas State's years of major football suckage were the direct fault of the Belt and he's never forgiven the conference for giving them a home.

Of course, to prove he was right that all their woes were the fault of the Belt, just look at the season they had last year, their first year in C-USA. Using his logic, they should win the national championship this year.
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(08-23-2014 05:32 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  
(08-23-2014 05:08 PM)msu_bears Wrote:  
(08-21-2014 03:06 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  Arkansas State, Idaho, Louisiana-Lafayette, Missouri State, Northern Iowa, Texas State, and Wichita State would be an awesome foundation to a new conference.

put together a google map with TV market sizes shown

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?m...PztlXAsKjQ

Could not open your page/map.

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Austin? TXST is closer to Austin than SA. Just wonderin'.
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Personally I miss the old SWC.
The old SWC will never be brought back to life by Doctor Frankenstein.
No matter how many lightning strikes he could corral.

Few remember that SWC team of Phillips.

But they certainly remember coaches like Paul "Bear" Bryant, Darrell Royal, Frank Broyles, Hayden Fry, and Lou Holtz.

Or players like: Mike Singletary, John David Crow, Lance Alworth, and Eric Dickerson, Sammy Baugh, Bobby Layne, Doak Walker,
Tom Landry, Bob Lilly, Don Meredith,Earl Campbell, and Andre Ware.

SMU getting the death penalty didn't just about kill them in football, but crippled and put the SWC into a death spiral also.

Man the SWC had innovation and pazazz.

Yup. By the end, everyone was snitching on everyone else. Virtually everyone was on probation or had been on probation during the final decade. That was supposedly one reason the Hogs left. If a split ever occurred between the P5 and the G5---then I think an opportunity for a very interesting mini-SWC would present itself.

In a split scenario, media income, ticket sales, and donations would all likely drop significanlty for the G5. Due to this, the G5 schools would be looking to cut expenses and move to a more regional league where regional networks might be more interested. The hope in a tighter regional configuration would be that traveling fans could boost ticket sales and traveling expenses would be significantly cut. There's where a new SWC could kick in.




SOUTH

Memphis
Tulsa
Ark St
Tulane
UL-L
LaTech


WEST

Texas St
SMU
N Texas
UTSA
Rice
Houston


You could go to 14 if you wanted to get S Miss and UL-M in as well. I left out UTEP and the New Mexico schools because they are so far. The vast majority of the games in the conference are driveable and the conference would have a very high profile in two of the best recruiting grounds in the nation (TX and LA). It would be a very tight MAC style footprint with strong representation in 5 well populated states. I would think Fox SW would love the set up. Think of it as a southern MAC.
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(08-24-2014 12:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  In a split scenario, media income, ticket sales, and donations would all likely drop significanlty for the G5. Due to this, the G5 schools would be looking o cut expenses and move to a more regional league where regional networks might. Be more interested, where traveling fans could boost ticket sales, and where traveling expenses would be significantly cut. There's where a new SWC could kick in.

The vast majority of the games in the conference are driveable and the the conference would have a very high profile in two of the best receuting grounds in the nation in TX and LA. It would be a very tight MAC style footprint with strong representation in 5 well populated states. I would think Fox SW would love the set up. Think of it as a southern MAC.

I personally believe that there's a better than 50/50 chance such a scenario plays out.....and sooner rather than later. Current and future TV contracts for the average G5 conference just won't cut it on a cost-covering basis with those conferences with far-flung memberships. The teams that can cut costs and draw fans will be the ones that survive and even thrive.
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(08-24-2014 12:41 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(08-24-2014 12:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  In a split scenario, media income, ticket sales, and donations would all likely drop significanlty for the G5. Due to this, the G5 schools would be looking o cut expenses and move to a more regional league where regional networks might. Be more interested, where traveling fans could boost ticket sales, and where traveling expenses would be significantly cut. There's where a new SWC could kick in.

The vast majority of the games in the conference are driveable and the the conference would have a very high profile in two of the best receuting grounds in the nation in TX and LA. It would be a very tight MAC style footprint with strong representation in 5 well populated states. I would think Fox SW would love the set up. Think of it as a southern MAC.

I personally believe that there's a better than 50/50 chance such a scenario plays out.....and sooner rather than later. Current and future TV contracts for the average G5 conference just won't cut it on a cost-covering basis with those conferences with far-flung memberships. The teams that can cut costs and draw fans will be the ones that survive and even thrive.


There wont be much thriving going on in that G5 scenario. It will be much more like FCS where most are just surviving. Most of the promising programs would falter quickly once their new found fans realize that their school is being effectively sent back down to FCS (which is what the G5 would basically become). Most people vastly underestimate the negative effect on ticket sales, TV interest, and donation levels that would follow a P5-G5 split. I suspect most programs would survive--but there would be some programs that vanish. All would operate well below their current levels.
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