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RE: Barnhart on P5 Autonomy
(08-15-2014 02:45 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:41 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:37 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 01:29 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 01:13 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  Like I thought, you are a talk and no thought. 04-cheers

Ugh the lesson there was when the legend becomes fact, print the legend

So how do you change the perception of a nation that the G5 is on an even footing with the P5? How?

We currently put 1/3rd of the players in the NFL. It has been that way forever, but the perception remains the same. So what do you say when you pull out the player figure, and they bring up head to head competition G5 teams were 23-113 last season against the P5?

There are only 2 places most people can see the P5 and G5 compete. This is on the field and for recruits today. At the end of the day, if those two don't improve, no one will think a G5 champ should play a P5 champ.

So by your numbers of the NFL, would you think it is acceptable for a G5 champ vs. the FCS champ?

So the lesson from you..is to quit before even trying. Silly.

No. The G5 should ask. I just think you have a better chance if you asked Santa Claus.

You can't answer the question. Like I said. You are all talk and no thought. 04-cheers

I did.

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RE: Barnhart on P5 Autonomy
(08-15-2014 02:45 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:41 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:37 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 01:29 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 01:13 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  Like I thought, you are a talk and no thought. 04-cheers

Ugh the lesson there was when the legend becomes fact, print the legend

So how do you change the perception of a nation that the G5 is on an even footing with the P5? How?

We currently put 1/3rd of the players in the NFL. It has been that way forever, but the perception remains the same. So what do you say when you pull out the player figure, and they bring up head to head competition G5 teams were 23-113 last season against the P5?

There are only 2 places most people can see the P5 and G5 compete. This is on the field and for recruits today. At the end of the day, if those two don't improve, no one will think a G5 champ should play a P5 champ.

So by your numbers of the NFL, would you think it is acceptable for a G5 champ vs. the FCS champ?

So the lesson from you..is to quit before even trying. Silly.

No. The G5 should ask. I just think you have a better chance if you asked Santa Claus.

You can't answer the question. Like I said. You are all talk and no thought. 04-cheers

Oh by the way... you haven't answered mine.

Happy trails Hans.
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(08-15-2014 02:49 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:45 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:41 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:37 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 01:29 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  Ugh the lesson there was when the legend becomes fact, print the legend

So how do you change the perception of a nation that the G5 is on an even footing with the P5? How?

We currently put 1/3rd of the players in the NFL. It has been that way forever, but the perception remains the same. So what do you say when you pull out the player figure, and they bring up head to head competition G5 teams were 23-113 last season against the P5?

There are only 2 places most people can see the P5 and G5 compete. This is on the field and for recruits today. At the end of the day, if those two don't improve, no one will think a G5 champ should play a P5 champ.

So by your numbers of the NFL, would you think it is acceptable for a G5 champ vs. the FCS champ?

So the lesson from you..is to quit before even trying. Silly.

No. The G5 should ask. I just think you have a better chance if you asked Santa Claus.

You can't answer the question. Like I said. You are all talk and no thought. 04-cheers

Oh by the way... you haven't answered mine.

Happy trails Hans.

Nice try but you are still not thinking. Your question was about a G5 vs FCS championship game. 85 scholarships vs 65 Scholarships. Not impossible for a FCS win but clearly not equitable. So your question was nonsensical. Does that help you? Go somewhere and think about before you come back to the big boy table. 04-cheers
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(08-15-2014 02:49 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:45 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:41 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:37 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 01:29 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  Ugh the lesson there was when the legend becomes fact, print the legend

So how do you change the perception of a nation that the G5 is on an even footing with the P5? How?

We currently put 1/3rd of the players in the NFL. It has been that way forever, but the perception remains the same. So what do you say when you pull out the player figure, and they bring up head to head competition G5 teams were 23-113 last season against the P5?

There are only 2 places most people can see the P5 and G5 compete. This is on the field and for recruits today. At the end of the day, if those two don't improve, no one will think a G5 champ should play a P5 champ.

So by your numbers of the NFL, would you think it is acceptable for a G5 champ vs. the FCS champ?

So the lesson from you..is to quit before even trying. Silly.

No. The G5 should ask. I just think you have a better chance if you asked Santa Claus.

You can't answer the question. Like I said. You are all talk and no thought. 04-cheers

Oh by the way... you haven't answered mine.

Happy trails Hans.

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(08-15-2014 03:32 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:49 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:45 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:41 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:37 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  So the lesson from you..is to quit before even trying. Silly.

No. The G5 should ask. I just think you have a better chance if you asked Santa Claus.

You can't answer the question. Like I said. You are all talk and no thought. 04-cheers

Oh by the way... you haven't answered mine.

Happy trails Hans.

Nice try but you are still not thinking. Your question was about a G5 vs FCS championship game. 85 scholarships vs 65 Scholarships. Not impossible for a FCS win but clearly not equitable. So your question was nonsensical. Does that help you? Go somewhere and think about before you come back to the big boy table. 04-cheers

I didn't ask who would win or lose. I asked if it would be acceptable. Would the G5 conferences agree to a FCS champion vs G5 champion?

What about the two questions above it I bolded?

Maybe you should read before you lecture people about thinking. Just a "thought"
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(08-15-2014 03:39 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 03:32 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:49 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:45 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:41 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  No. The G5 should ask. I just think you have a better chance if you asked Santa Claus.

You can't answer the question. Like I said. You are all talk and no thought. 04-cheers

Oh by the way... you haven't answered mine.

Happy trails Hans.

Nice try but you are still not thinking. Your question was about a G5 vs FCS championship game. 85 scholarships vs 65 Scholarships. Not impossible for a FCS win but clearly not equitable. So your question was nonsensical. Does that help you? Go somewhere and think about before you come back to the big boy table. 04-cheers

I didn't ask who would win or lose. I asked if it would be acceptable. Would the G5 conferences agree to a FCS champion vs G5 champion?

What about the two questions above it I bolded?

Maybe you should read before you lecture people about thinking. Just a "thought"

I did read it and told you it was nonsensical.

1. Half of the schools are not P5. If the G5 wins against with the lower half of the P5, then one has to give the Boise States and Utahs their shot at a championship. I think Utah and Boise proved they could play with the big boys just like FSU and Miami did in the 80's.
The PAC 10 invite to Utah solved the problem temporarily.

Did you like the lecture? I know it hurts but try thinking a little more.
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Are we talking about stuff that will never happen? Oookay thanks.
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(08-15-2014 03:55 PM)panama Wrote:  Are we talking about stuff that will never happen? Oookay thanks.

Like I said. Just can't think past Ga State and hate on any other school being considered. Alright, Cinderella. Time to dance.
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(08-15-2014 03:53 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 03:39 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 03:32 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:49 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:45 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  You can't answer the question. Like I said. You are all talk and no thought. 04-cheers

Oh by the way... you haven't answered mine.

Happy trails Hans.

Nice try but you are still not thinking. Your question was about a G5 vs FCS championship game. 85 scholarships vs 65 Scholarships. Not impossible for a FCS win but clearly not equitable. So your question was nonsensical. Does that help you? Go somewhere and think about before you come back to the big boy table. 04-cheers

I didn't ask who would win or lose. I asked if it would be acceptable. Would the G5 conferences agree to a FCS champion vs G5 champion?

What about the two questions above it I bolded?

Maybe you should read before you lecture people about thinking. Just a "thought"

I did read it and told you it was nonsensical.

1. Half of the schools are not P5. If the G5 wins against with the lower half of the P5, then one has to give the Boise States and Utahs their shot at a championship. I think Utah and Boise proved they could play with the big boys just like FSU and Miami did in the 80's.
The PAC 10 invite to Utah solved the problem temporarily.

Did you like the lecture? I know it hurts but try thinking a little more.

If G5 wins against a lower half P5 team then they have the right to play the best P5 team.

Ok.

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(08-15-2014 04:00 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 03:53 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 03:39 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 03:32 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 02:49 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  Oh by the way... you haven't answered mine.

Happy trails Hans.

Nice try but you are still not thinking. Your question was about a G5 vs FCS championship game. 85 scholarships vs 65 Scholarships. Not impossible for a FCS win but clearly not equitable. So your question was nonsensical. Does that help you? Go somewhere and think about before you come back to the big boy table. 04-cheers

I didn't ask who would win or lose. I asked if it would be acceptable. Would the G5 conferences agree to a FCS champion vs G5 champion?

What about the two questions above it I bolded?

Maybe you should read before you lecture people about thinking. Just a "thought"

I did read it and told you it was nonsensical.

1. Half of the schools are not P5. If the G5 wins against with the lower half of the P5, then one has to give the Boise States and Utahs their shot at a championship. I think Utah and Boise proved they could play with the big boys just like FSU and Miami did in the 80's.
The PAC 10 invite to Utah solved the problem temporarily.

Did you like the lecture? I know it hurts but try thinking a little more.

If G5 wins against the lower half of the P5 than they have the right to play the best P5 team.

Ok.

[Image: big-trouble-in-little-china-explosion-o.gif]

Ok. you flunked the math test.

If Higher P5 beats Lower P5 and

If Higher G5 beats Lower P5;

Then Higher P5 equals Higher G5.

Then the answer is......Yes!

I get it, it was a word problem and you could not comprehend. Start thinking.
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(08-15-2014 04:08 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 04:00 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 03:53 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 03:39 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 03:32 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  Nice try but you are still not thinking. Your question was about a G5 vs FCS championship game. 85 scholarships vs 65 Scholarships. Not impossible for a FCS win but clearly not equitable. So your question was nonsensical. Does that help you? Go somewhere and think about before you come back to the big boy table. 04-cheers

I didn't ask who would win or lose. I asked if it would be acceptable. Would the G5 conferences agree to a FCS champion vs G5 champion?

What about the two questions above it I bolded?

Maybe you should read before you lecture people about thinking. Just a "thought"

I did read it and told you it was nonsensical.

1. Half of the schools are not P5. If the G5 wins against with the lower half of the P5, then one has to give the Boise States and Utahs their shot at a championship. I think Utah and Boise proved they could play with the big boys just like FSU and Miami did in the 80's.
The PAC 10 invite to Utah solved the problem temporarily.

Did you like the lecture? I know it hurts but try thinking a little more.

If G5 wins against the lower half of the P5 than they have the right to play the best P5 team.

Ok.

[Image: big-trouble-in-little-china-explosion-o.gif]

Ok. you flunked the math test.

If Higher P5 beats Lower P5 and

If Higher G5 beats Lower P5;

Then Higher P5 equals Higher G5.

Then the answer is......Yes!

I get it, it was a word problem and you could not comprehend. Start thinking.

"If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, wouldn't it be a Merry Christmas?"

The problem with your thinking is... we don't beat the lower half P5s. We still lose to the Mississippi States, Ole Misses, NC States, Vanderbilts, and such. We might beat half of the lower 25% of P5s. If you are 23-113 against all P5 schools, it means you aren't keeping pace. No where near.
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(08-15-2014 04:17 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 04:08 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 04:00 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 03:53 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 03:39 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  I didn't ask who would win or lose. I asked if it would be acceptable. Would the G5 conferences agree to a FCS champion vs G5 champion?

What about the two questions above it I bolded?

Maybe you should read before you lecture people about thinking. Just a "thought"

I did read it and told you it was nonsensical.

1. Half of the schools are not P5. If the G5 wins against with the lower half of the P5, then one has to give the Boise States and Utahs their shot at a championship. I think Utah and Boise proved they could play with the big boys just like FSU and Miami did in the 80's.
The PAC 10 invite to Utah solved the problem temporarily.

Did you like the lecture? I know it hurts but try thinking a little more.

If G5 wins against the lower half of the P5 than they have the right to play the best P5 team.

Ok.

[Image: big-trouble-in-little-china-explosion-o.gif]

Ok. you flunked the math test.

If Higher P5 beats Lower P5 and

If Higher G5 beats Lower P5;

Then Higher P5 equals Higher G5.

Then the answer is......Yes!

I get it, it was a word problem and you could not comprehend. Start thinking.

"If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, wouldn't it be a Merry Christmas?"

The problem with your thinking is... we don't beat the lower half P5s. We still lose to the Mississippi States, Ole Misses, NC States, Vanderbilts, and such. We might beat half of the lower 25% of P5s. If you are 23-113 against all P5 schools, it means you aren't keeping pace. No where near.

The unfaithful have spoken. So you don't want to give Ga State a little more time to prove themselves against Alabama?
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(08-15-2014 04:27 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 04:17 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 04:08 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 04:00 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(08-15-2014 03:53 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  I did read it and told you it was nonsensical.

1. Half of the schools are not P5. If the G5 wins against with the lower half of the P5, then one has to give the Boise States and Utahs their shot at a championship. I think Utah and Boise proved they could play with the big boys just like FSU and Miami did in the 80's.
The PAC 10 invite to Utah solved the problem temporarily.

Did you like the lecture? I know it hurts but try thinking a little more.

If G5 wins against the lower half of the P5 than they have the right to play the best P5 team.

Ok.

[Image: big-trouble-in-little-china-explosion-o.gif]

Ok. you flunked the math test.

If Higher P5 beats Lower P5 and

If Higher G5 beats Lower P5;

Then Higher P5 equals Higher G5.

Then the answer is......Yes!

I get it, it was a word problem and you could not comprehend. Start thinking.

"If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, wouldn't it be a Merry Christmas?"

The problem with your thinking is... we don't beat the lower half P5s. We still lose to the Mississippi States, Ole Misses, NC States, Vanderbilts, and such. We might beat half of the lower 25% of P5s. If you are 23-113 against all P5 schools, it means you aren't keeping pace. No where near.

The unfaithful have spoken. So you don't want to give Ga State a little more time to prove themselves against Alabama?

It has nothing to do with what I want, and everything to do with what sponsors want, and unfortunately the P5 wants. P5 votes by money. And unless there would be enough money to get them to vote for this, you can think about it all you want.

Now if you would excuse me, I have a very important lobotomy to schedule.
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(08-12-2014 01:51 PM)panama Wrote:  But we are not offering the same kids as Georgia and Auburn. Its not like they are sitting the going, hmm do I go to WKU or Kentucky. In that case they are going to Kentucky 999 times out of 1000. If you are somehow beating P5 for players then congratulations and I shall call you Louisville. As far as creating a bigger gap well yes I think that's what I was trying to say by saying that the entrance fee to P5 just went WAY up. The main thing we can all do is make sure our individual houses are in order and build our own individual facilities and local fan bases so that we are nt one of the two or three schools that drop football.

We are offering the same kids as there are few five and high four stars, we are just not winning the battle the vast majority of the time for the lower four and high three star type kids. What is of major concern is the mid level and below P5's being able to win at the same rate as the big boys. G5's win recruiting battles against the lower P5 all the time but if the G5 does not follow the Kentucky's types of the world just got a huge hammer to beat us about the head with in recruiting. It is just not about the Alabama's by any stretch of the imagination.
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