RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the ACC who should we take and why?
Ah yes, the much spoken of additional conference workaround. Does it, or can it work? Let's see?
The Big 10: Wants into the Beltway in a bigger way and would like to tap the North Carolina market. Let's say for the sake of argument that we move to 72 schools in an upper tier. What might a Big 10 look like if limited to 64, and who might they take to get to 72?
At 64 you add Virginia and North Carolina optimally. You add Kansas and Oklahoma secondarily. You add Kansas and Iowa State if forced to.
But, at 18 their options complete their footprint. At 18 the Big 10 adds Syracuse, Boston College, Virginia and Notre Dame. I know the Irish hate them. But here's the issue. If the lacrosse playing juggernauts are in the Big 10, and Olympic sports stay among their former Big East mates with the additions of Maryland and Rutgers then where will they really land? There is nothing for them in the SEC. Without Maryland and Syracuse, and Virginia there's not much left but Duke and U.N.C. in the ACC. And maybe Virginia wants to stay with its core group. So now Pitt is the addition. Still that begs the question for N.D. New England enhanced by Maryland, or the ACC. I say travel dictates that common sense finally prevails and the N.D. bites it's knuckles hard and joins.
At 64 the SEC wants into North Carolina and Virginia. But they have already admitted that just to get into North Carolina they would take Duke along with the Tar Heels. So the SEC at 16 picks up one state. However at 18 they can add Virgnia, Duke, and North Carolina and pick up Virginia Tech as well for a lock down corner.
The PAC at 18 is easy to figure. Texas, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas and Kansas State to 18. How can this be with Texas Tech and Baylor left behind? The answer is the 4th conference.
Baylor, Brigham Young, Texas Tech, Texas Christian, Houston, Colorado State
Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, N.C. State, Wake Forest, West Virginia
Florida State, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami, Tulane, Memphis
This might not satisfy everyone but it builds a fairly nice grouping of schools geographically and competitively.
So what do we have:
Big 18:
East: Boston College, Maryland, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Penn State, Rutgers
Central: Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Purdue, Syracuse
West: Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin
SEC 18:
North: Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, Virginia Tech
South: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
West: Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Texas A&M
PAC 18:
North: California, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Washington, Washington State
South: Arizona, Arizona State, Cal Los Angeles, Colorado, Southern Cal, Utah
East: Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas
New 18:
North: Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, N.C. State, West Virginia, Wake Forest
South: Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, Memphis, Tulane
West: Baylor, Brigham Young, Colorado State, Houston, Texas Tech, Texas Christian
We've added the most schools with a gripe about getting in. We've left no present member of the P5 behind.
FOX and ESPN both agree to support the fourth conference and we move to a 4 conference champions model. Everyone's conference profiles are enhanced in the remaining P3. If further appeasement of the P3 is required then we move to 8 school playoff.
Now I still favor a 3 x 20 but this one solves many issues if you are a proponent of the 4th conference scenario.
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