(08-05-2014 04:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-05-2014 03:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-05-2014 02:49 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I've sat on athletic boards during that span and trust the numbers I've posted.

I'm not disputing your numbers I'm just posting what I have and while yours and mine vary by a few dollars

at least they are similar

Other words no double secret files that no one else gets to see and bookkeeping different than all the rest of us...

like asu

Let me ask you a question..yes I can look it up but you can give the numbers to me.

What was App attendance last year and about the average cost of a ticket?

Again...we're required by state law to report only donations that are used by the athletic department in a given year. Our correct donation totals are filed with the IRS, talk to them if you want to know those numbers

For example: If I gave a million dollars to Arkansas State, but the school only used 50K of that this year to fund a project, then they report to the state they received only 50K in donations. The rest are filed away with the Red Wolf Foundation, and saved until the next thing is needed. We got a 5 million dollar donation a couple months ago that was highly publicized. School wont report that to Arkansas because its likely it will never actually go to the Athletic Department, but will rather be funneled into Stadium improvements, which we don't have to report.

Again that might explain donations but I'm sure ticket sales are not kept in a double secret file that no one gets to look at.

So are you saying the reported numbers on ticket sales are correct?

As for donatiion ASU only takes one on FIVE sections in football....FIVE or about 12% of the seating.

(08-05-2014 05:03 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-05-2014 04:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-05-2014 03:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-05-2014 02:49 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I've sat on athletic boards during that span and trust the numbers I've posted.

I'm not disputing your numbers I'm just posting what I have and while yours and mine vary by a few dollars

at least they are similar

Other words no double secret files that no one else gets to see and bookkeeping different than all the rest of us...

like asu

Let me ask you a question..yes I can look it up but you can give the numbers to me.

What was App attendance last year and about the average cost of a ticket?

Again...we're required by state law to report only donations that are used by the athletic department in a given year. Our correct donation totals are filed with the IRS, talk to them if you want to know those numbers

For example: If I gave a million dollars to Arkansas State, but the school only used 50K of that this year to fund a project, then they report to the state they received only 50K in donations. The rest are filed away with the Red Wolf Foundation, and saved until the next thing is needed. We got a 5 million dollar donation a couple months ago that was highly publicized. School wont report that to Arkansas because its likely it will never actually go to the Athletic Department, but will rather be funneled into Stadium improvements, which we don't have to report.

Again that might explain donations but I'm sure ticket sales are not kept in a double secret file that no one gets to look at.

So are you saying the reported numbers on ticket sales are correct?

As for donatiion ASU only takes one on FIVE sections in football....FIVE or about 12% of the seating.

Not requiring donations is a school thing that has been continued for years and is a philosophy of this administration. Everyone should be able to purchase a season ticket if they want. We want them to buy tickets first and give after they've seen and liked the on field product.

School usually does not fudge attendance numbers traditionally. We've had news outlets before who have tried to prove we did, only to find out through FOI requests that we're not. What we don't admit is what percentage of our tickets were sold in batch to businesses, and which were bought through the school.

(08-05-2014 04:07 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I don't trust a lot of reports about expenses and revenues. Seems like many times you are comparing apples to oranges to peaches to pears.

We report plums.