(07-25-2014 12:12 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  Where would ULL even move to. MAC/CUSA would be lateral moves/marginally better at best. They are too far outside of MWC footprint and with Tulane there's no need for them in the AAC. I guess you might angle for B12... Honestly though I'd be surprised if ULL got taken over UC to help out WVU. I guess that might work out though.

This whole Louisiana Theory about keeping up with other in state schools might be enough to get them into CUSA, even though any Tech fans claim of superiority is a foolish lie.

Realistically, there are very few differences between ULL and AState. Both would love to be in the AAC, but are blocked by other local programs. Moves to the MAC and MWC only become viable if they move together with other local teams. CUSA Makes more sense for the Cajuns than it does for AState because our fans see CUSA as a lateral move. I cannot say for sure that is the same way in Cajun Land.

(07-25-2014 01:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 12:12 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  Where would ULL even move to. MAC/CUSA would be lateral moves/marginally better at best. They are too far outside of MWC footprint and with Tulane there's no need for them in the AAC. I guess you might angle for B12... Honestly though I'd be surprised if ULL got taken over UC to help out WVU. I guess that might work out though.

This whole Louisiana Theory about keeping up with other in state schools might be enough to get them into CUSA, even though any Tech fans claim of superiority is a foolish lie.

Realistically, there are very few differences between ULL and AState. Both would love to be in the AAC, but are blocked by other local programs. Moves to the MAC and MWC only become viable if they move together with other local teams. CUSA Makes more sense for the Cajuns than it does for AState because our fans see CUSA as a lateral move. I cannot say for sure that is the same way in Cajun Land.

I'd just rather be in a conference with southern miss and la tech over ulm. Plus they actually give a damn about basketball.

(07-25-2014 02:00 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 01:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 12:12 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  Where would ULL even move to. MAC/CUSA would be lateral moves/marginally better at best. They are too far outside of MWC footprint and with Tulane there's no need for them in the AAC. I guess you might angle for B12... Honestly though I'd be surprised if ULL got taken over UC to help out WVU. I guess that might work out though.

This whole Louisiana Theory about keeping up with other in state schools might be enough to get them into CUSA, even though any Tech fans claim of superiority is a foolish lie.

Realistically, there are very few differences between ULL and AState. Both would love to be in the AAC, but are blocked by other local programs. Moves to the MAC and MWC only become viable if they move together with other local teams. CUSA Makes more sense for the Cajuns than it does for AState because our fans see CUSA as a lateral move. I cannot say for sure that is the same way in Cajun Land.

I'd just rather be in a conference with southern miss and la tech over ulm. Plus they actually give a damn about basketball.

I figured that might be a small difference. Though I question if that basketball concern is really an issue considering you guys stunk at basketball as of just a couple years ago yourselves.

From an AState fan perspective, We'd love to play Southern Miss regularly. Problem is, that's 1 team out of 14, and outside of MTSU, and maybe Tech, the other 11 don't really offer much to increase fan support.

That and our basketball program has fallen off planet earth.

(07-25-2014 01:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Realistically, there are very few differences between ULL and AState. Both would love to be in the AAC, but are blocked by other local programs.

Who in the AAC is blocking AState?

(07-25-2014 02:04 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:00 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 01:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 12:12 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  Where would ULL even move to. MAC/CUSA would be lateral moves/marginally better at best. They are too far outside of MWC footprint and with Tulane there's no need for them in the AAC. I guess you might angle for B12... Honestly though I'd be surprised if ULL got taken over UC to help out WVU. I guess that might work out though.

This whole Louisiana Theory about keeping up with other in state schools might be enough to get them into CUSA, even though any Tech fans claim of superiority is a foolish lie.

Realistically, there are very few differences between ULL and AState. Both would love to be in the AAC, but are blocked by other local programs. Moves to the MAC and MWC only become viable if they move together with other local teams. CUSA Makes more sense for the Cajuns than it does for AState because our fans see CUSA as a lateral move. I cannot say for sure that is the same way in Cajun Land.

I'd just rather be in a conference with southern miss and la tech over ulm. Plus they actually give a damn about basketball.

I figured that might be a small difference. Though I question if that basketball concern is really an issue considering you guys stunk at basketball as of just a couple years ago yourselves.

From an AState fan perspective, We'd love to play Southern Miss regularly. Problem is, that's 1 team out of 14, and outside of MTSU, and maybe Tech, the other 11 don't really offer much to increase fan support.

That and our basketball program has fallen off planet earth.

I suspect no one at UL cares to play anyone in the SBC other than stAte...hell half the programs weren't even in the SBC 5 years ago. And I think as we continue to grow football and baseball remains at a high level, we will start playing better basketball too.

(07-25-2014 02:05 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 01:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Realistically, there are very few differences between ULL and AState. Both would love to be in the AAC, but are blocked by other local programs.

Who in the AAC is blocking AState?

Memphis would never allow themselves to be relegated to playing at the same level as Arkansas State.

Yes, we're at the same level now, but Tigers fans and admins see themselves as more of a P5 school than G5

(07-25-2014 02:06 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:04 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:00 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 01:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 12:12 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  Where would ULL even move to. MAC/CUSA would be lateral moves/marginally better at best. They are too far outside of MWC footprint and with Tulane there's no need for them in the AAC. I guess you might angle for B12... Honestly though I'd be surprised if ULL got taken over UC to help out WVU. I guess that might work out though.

This whole Louisiana Theory about keeping up with other in state schools might be enough to get them into CUSA, even though any Tech fans claim of superiority is a foolish lie.

Realistically, there are very few differences between ULL and AState. Both would love to be in the AAC, but are blocked by other local programs. Moves to the MAC and MWC only become viable if they move together with other local teams. CUSA Makes more sense for the Cajuns than it does for AState because our fans see CUSA as a lateral move. I cannot say for sure that is the same way in Cajun Land.

I'd just rather be in a conference with southern miss and la tech over ulm. Plus they actually give a damn about basketball.

I figured that might be a small difference. Though I question if that basketball concern is really an issue considering you guys stunk at basketball as of just a couple years ago yourselves.

From an AState fan perspective, We'd love to play Southern Miss regularly. Problem is, that's 1 team out of 14, and outside of MTSU, and maybe Tech, the other 11 don't really offer much to increase fan support.

That and our basketball program has fallen off planet earth.

I suspect no one at UL cares to play anyone in the SBC other than stAte...hell half the programs weren't even in the SBC 5 years ago. And I think as we continue to grow football and baseball remains at a high level, we will start playing better basketball too.

From our perspective, Troy and ULM still carry a decent amount of value here. And I swear that we'll hate App about as much as we hated MTSU if we give that game time.

Cajuns remain our biggest rivals, but the biggest difference is trying to explain to fans here how schools like Rice and UTSA are steps up, whenever our administration spends a decent amount of time daily here explaining how they are not.

P5 is a football term. I'm not entirely sure they remember how that game is played over in Memphis.

(07-25-2014 02:12 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  P5 is a football term. I'm not entirely sure they remember how that game is played over in Memphis.

They don't. But the basketball program fuels the fire. As of right now, the football series is over, and basketball is a non starter because we want a home game. That rivalry is pretty much done outside of baseball.

From our administrations perspective, we see an East Carolina as a peer school that we want to play on level terms with. I've heard SMU, Houston, and UCF mentioned as well in that grouping. Memphis was never mentioned.

(07-25-2014 02:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:06 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:04 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:00 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 01:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  This whole Louisiana Theory about keeping up with other in state schools might be enough to get them into CUSA, even though any Tech fans claim of superiority is a foolish lie.

Realistically, there are very few differences between ULL and AState. Both would love to be in the AAC, but are blocked by other local programs. Moves to the MAC and MWC only become viable if they move together with other local teams. CUSA Makes more sense for the Cajuns than it does for AState because our fans see CUSA as a lateral move. I cannot say for sure that is the same way in Cajun Land.

I'd just rather be in a conference with southern miss and la tech over ulm. Plus they actually give a damn about basketball.

I figured that might be a small difference. Though I question if that basketball concern is really an issue considering you guys stunk at basketball as of just a couple years ago yourselves.

From an AState fan perspective, We'd love to play Southern Miss regularly. Problem is, that's 1 team out of 14, and outside of MTSU, and maybe Tech, the other 11 don't really offer much to increase fan support.

That and our basketball program has fallen off planet earth.

I suspect no one at UL cares to play anyone in the SBC other than stAte...hell half the programs weren't even in the SBC 5 years ago. And I think as we continue to grow football and baseball remains at a high level, we will start playing better basketball too.

From our perspective, Troy and ULM still carry a decent amount of value here. And I swear that we'll hate App about as much as we hated MTSU if we give that game time.

Cajuns remain our biggest rivals, but the biggest difference is trying to explain to fans here how schools like Rice and UTSA are steps up, whenever our administration spends a decent amount of time daily here explaining how they are not.

Because is much easier to talk them done, than to match their investments in budgets and facilities. Until we reach that level, both programs are below them.

It reminds me of people that are talking Southern Miss down right now because they have been really awful that past few seasons. What those people forget, is that USM went 11-2 in 2011 and attended their 15 straight bowl game. What SBC program has attended 15 consecutive bowl games? None!

(07-25-2014 02:27 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:06 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:04 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:00 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  I'd just rather be in a conference with southern miss and la tech over ulm. Plus they actually give a damn about basketball.

I figured that might be a small difference. Though I question if that basketball concern is really an issue considering you guys stunk at basketball as of just a couple years ago yourselves.

From an AState fan perspective, We'd love to play Southern Miss regularly. Problem is, that's 1 team out of 14, and outside of MTSU, and maybe Tech, the other 11 don't really offer much to increase fan support.

That and our basketball program has fallen off planet earth.

I suspect no one at UL cares to play anyone in the SBC other than stAte...hell half the programs weren't even in the SBC 5 years ago. And I think as we continue to grow football and baseball remains at a high level, we will start playing better basketball too.

From our perspective, Troy and ULM still carry a decent amount of value here. And I swear that we'll hate App about as much as we hated MTSU if we give that game time.

Cajuns remain our biggest rivals, but the biggest difference is trying to explain to fans here how schools like Rice and UTSA are steps up, whenever our administration spends a decent amount of time daily here explaining how they are not.

Because is much easier to talk them done, than to match their investments in budgets and facilities. Until we reach that level, both programs are below them.

It reminds me of people that are talking Southern Miss down right now because they have been really awful that past few seasons. What those people forget, is that USM went 11-2 in 2011 and attended their 15 straight bowl game. What SBC program has attended 15 consecutive bowl games? None!

You'll never hear us talk USM down. Especially considering we have some former coaches of theirs.

I admit, we'll never see Rice on any sort of terms because the two of us don't match. As a new program, we don't respect UTSA a ton. I used them as an example of why we wouldn't see an attendance increase realistically.

We'll take 95 percent of our shots at Tech and the former SBC schools, with a few thrown at the bow of ODU and UAB.

(07-25-2014 02:21 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:12 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  P5 is a football term. I'm not entirely sure they remember how that game is played over in Memphis.

They don't. But the basketball program fuels the fire. As of right now, the football series is over, and basketball is a non starter because we want a home game. That rivalry is pretty much done outside of baseball.

From our administrations perspective, we see an East Carolina as a peer school that we want to play on level terms with. I've heard SMU, Houston, and UCF mentioned as well in that grouping. Memphis was never mentioned.

I agree AState would be good competition but I'd be surprised if we played. For OOC we prefer to schedule up instead of laterally or down(with an exception for local teams) even if it makes for less pretty records.

My personal preference, (would never happen) but just for my personal interest. Cusa get rid of fiu,fau,uab and replace with cajun, stAte and south al. That would pretty much cover strength in all sports football, basketball, baseball and softball. Would keep our rivalries with certain schools in certain sports. Would allow me to travel to a lot of away games.

(07-25-2014 02:33 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:27 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:06 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:04 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I figured that might be a small difference. Though I question if that basketball concern is really an issue considering you guys stunk at basketball as of just a couple years ago yourselves.

From an AState fan perspective, We'd love to play Southern Miss regularly. Problem is, that's 1 team out of 14, and outside of MTSU, and maybe Tech, the other 11 don't really offer much to increase fan support.

That and our basketball program has fallen off planet earth.

I suspect no one at UL cares to play anyone in the SBC other than stAte...hell half the programs weren't even in the SBC 5 years ago. And I think as we continue to grow football and baseball remains at a high level, we will start playing better basketball too.

From our perspective, Troy and ULM still carry a decent amount of value here. And I swear that we'll hate App about as much as we hated MTSU if we give that game time.

Cajuns remain our biggest rivals, but the biggest difference is trying to explain to fans here how schools like Rice and UTSA are steps up, whenever our administration spends a decent amount of time daily here explaining how they are not.

Because is much easier to talk them done, than to match their investments in budgets and facilities. Until we reach that level, both programs are below them.

It reminds me of people that are talking Southern Miss down right now because they have been really awful that past few seasons. What those people forget, is that USM went 11-2 in 2011 and attended their 15 straight bowl game. What SBC program has attended 15 consecutive bowl games? None!

You'll never hear us talk USM down. Especially considering we have some former coaches of theirs.

I admit, we'll never see Rice on any sort of terms because the two of us don't match. As a new program, we don't respect UTSA a ton. I used them as an example of why we wouldn't see an attendance increase realistically.

We'll take 95 percent of our shots at Tech and the former SBC schools, with a few thrown at the bow of ODU and UAB.

I think utsa and odu have tons of potential...

(07-25-2014 02:54 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:33 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:27 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:06 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  I suspect no one at UL cares to play anyone in the SBC other than stAte...hell half the programs weren't even in the SBC 5 years ago. And I think as we continue to grow football and baseball remains at a high level, we will start playing better basketball too.

From our perspective, Troy and ULM still carry a decent amount of value here. And I swear that we'll hate App about as much as we hated MTSU if we give that game time.

Cajuns remain our biggest rivals, but the biggest difference is trying to explain to fans here how schools like Rice and UTSA are steps up, whenever our administration spends a decent amount of time daily here explaining how they are not.

Because is much easier to talk them done, than to match their investments in budgets and facilities. Until we reach that level, both programs are below them.

It reminds me of people that are talking Southern Miss down right now because they have been really awful that past few seasons. What those people forget, is that USM went 11-2 in 2011 and attended their 15 straight bowl game. What SBC program has attended 15 consecutive bowl games? None!

You'll never hear us talk USM down. Especially considering we have some former coaches of theirs.

I admit, we'll never see Rice on any sort of terms because the two of us don't match. As a new program, we don't respect UTSA a ton. I used them as an example of why we wouldn't see an attendance increase realistically.

We'll take 95 percent of our shots at Tech and the former SBC schools, with a few thrown at the bow of ODU and UAB.

I think utsa and odu have tons of potential...

I like App's and GSU's far better. Especially over UTSA.

(07-25-2014 02:40 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:21 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 02:12 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  P5 is a football term. I'm not entirely sure they remember how that game is played over in Memphis.

They don't. But the basketball program fuels the fire. As of right now, the football series is over, and basketball is a non starter because we want a home game. That rivalry is pretty much done outside of baseball.

From our administrations perspective, we see an East Carolina as a peer school that we want to play on level terms with. I've heard SMU, Houston, and UCF mentioned as well in that grouping. Memphis was never mentioned.

I agree AState would be good competition but I'd be surprised if we played. For OOC we prefer to schedule up instead of laterally or down(with an exception for local teams) even if it makes for less pretty records.

Oh I know we'll never play. I was just quoting who we see ourselves on level terms with.