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RE: 2014 Sunbelt Coaches Poll
(07-21-2014 11:04 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  There are 3 conference games that I want GS to win and 2 others that we should win.

We should be favored against NMSU and Idaho. But I really want to beat GaSt, App, and TxSt. Those three (depending on how well GaSt is doing) are games we can win, but could go either way. GaSt is right now a game I would see GS winning comfortably (but who knows), App has owned us lately and the games are usually very close, TxSt is a solid program and an away game, but I really want revenge for 2005.

oh, and GS is better than App. 04-chairshot

I'd just like to know why GaSo will be so good with a whole new offensive system being installed. Going from a "running" offense to a "spread" offense, you need to to have the personnel that will translate from one to the other...do you really have that yet?
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RE: 2014 Sunbelt Coaches Poll
(07-21-2014 01:11 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:04 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  There are 3 conference games that I want GS to win and 2 others that we should win.

We should be favored against NMSU and Idaho. But I really want to beat GaSt, App, and TxSt. Those three (depending on how well GaSt is doing) are games we can win, but could go either way. GaSt is right now a game I would see GS winning comfortably (but who knows), App has owned us lately and the games are usually very close, TxSt is a solid program and an away game, but I really want revenge for 2005.

oh, and GS is better than App. 04-chairshot

I'd just like to know why GaSo will be so good with a whole new offensive system being installed. Going from a "running" offense to a "spread" offense, you need to to have the personnel that will translate from one to the other...do you really have that yet?

The vast majority of our O came from spread offensive schemes in HS, and 80-85% of our offense will be based on the run, albeit from the gun rather than under center. Could we possibly forget that much about how to run the ball from last November until now?
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(07-21-2014 01:40 PM)alpha_eagle Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 01:11 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:04 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  There are 3 conference games that I want GS to win and 2 others that we should win.

We should be favored against NMSU and Idaho. But I really want to beat GaSt, App, and TxSt. Those three (depending on how well GaSt is doing) are games we can win, but could go either way. GaSt is right now a game I would see GS winning comfortably (but who knows), App has owned us lately and the games are usually very close, TxSt is a solid program and an away game, but I really want revenge for 2005.

oh, and GS is better than App. 04-chairshot

I'd just like to know why GaSo will be so good with a whole new offensive system being installed. Going from a "running" offense to a "spread" offense, you need to to have the personnel that will translate from one to the other...do you really have that yet?

The vast majority of our O came from spread offensive schemes in HS, and 80-85% of our offense will be based on the run, albeit from the gun rather than under center. Could we possibly forget that much about how to run the ball from last November until now?

dunno...that's why I asked...

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Re: RE: 2014 Sunbelt Coaches Poll
(07-21-2014 01:49 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 01:40 PM)alpha_eagle Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 01:11 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:04 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  There are 3 conference games that I want GS to win and 2 others that we should win.

We should be favored against NMSU and Idaho. But I really want to beat GaSt, App, and TxSt. Those three (depending on how well GaSt is doing) are games we can win, but could go either way. GaSt is right now a game I would see GS winning comfortably (but who knows), App has owned us lately and the games are usually very close, TxSt is a solid program and an away game, but I really want revenge for 2005.

oh, and GS is better than App. 04-chairshot

I'd just like to know why GaSo will be so good with a whole new offensive system being installed. Going from a "running" offense to a "spread" offense, you need to to have the personnel that will translate from one to the other...do you really have that yet?

The vast majority of our O came from spread offensive schemes in HS, and 80-85% of our offense will be based on the run, albeit from the gun rather than under center. Could we possibly forget that much about how to run the ball from last November until now?

dunno...that's why I asked...

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Most of the concepts are about the same. Blocking technique is the biggest difference, but we have a talented and experienced O line with some big young guys, too.
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RE: 2014 Sunbelt Coaches Poll
(07-21-2014 01:52 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 01:49 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 01:40 PM)alpha_eagle Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 01:11 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:04 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  There are 3 conference games that I want GS to win and 2 others that we should win.

We should be favored against NMSU and Idaho. But I really want to beat GaSt, App, and TxSt. Those three (depending on how well GaSt is doing) are games we can win, but could go either way. GaSt is right now a game I would see GS winning comfortably (but who knows), App has owned us lately and the games are usually very close, TxSt is a solid program and an away game, but I really want revenge for 2005.

oh, and GS is better than App. 04-chairshot

I'd just like to know why GaSo will be so good with a whole new offensive system being installed. Going from a "running" offense to a "spread" offense, you need to to have the personnel that will translate from one to the other...do you really have that yet?

The vast majority of our O came from spread offensive schemes in HS, and 80-85% of our offense will be based on the run, albeit from the gun rather than under center. Could we possibly forget that much about how to run the ball from last November until now?

dunno...that's why I asked...

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Most of the concepts are about the same. Blocking technique is the biggest difference, but we have a talented and experienced O line with some big young guys, too.

App obviously had QB issues early last season, but Satterfield made some slight adjustments to an offense we had been running for ten years and it caused all kinds of trouble, especially blocking people. Towards the end of the season things began to click, but those first 6 weeks it looked like they had never run that offense before. Defensively we switched to a 3-4 and really didn't have the personnel to make it work. Then we lost our best DL and it got progressively worse until about game 7. I think it will be a bigger adjustment for the Eagles than you may think.
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RE: 2014 Sunbelt Coaches Poll
(07-21-2014 02:03 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 01:52 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 01:49 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 01:40 PM)alpha_eagle Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 01:11 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  I'd just like to know why GaSo will be so good with a whole new offensive system being installed. Going from a "running" offense to a "spread" offense, you need to to have the personnel that will translate from one to the other...do you really have that yet?

The vast majority of our O came from spread offensive schemes in HS, and 80-85% of our offense will be based on the run, albeit from the gun rather than under center. Could we possibly forget that much about how to run the ball from last November until now?

dunno...that's why I asked...

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Most of the concepts are about the same. Blocking technique is the biggest difference, but we have a talented and experienced O line with some big young guys, too.

App obviously had QB issues early last season, but Satterfield made some slight adjustments to an offense we had been running for ten years and it caused all kinds of trouble, especially blocking people. Towards the end of the season things began to click, but those first 6 weeks it looked like they had never run that offense before. Defensively we switched to a 3-4 and really didn't have the personnel to make it work. Then we lost our best DL and it got progressively worse until about game 7. I think it will be a bigger adjustment for the Eagles than you may think.

It could be a complete cluster. We looked very confused last year against several teams we should've beat with the talent we have (woffie, furman, app). But the game plan was questionable and the players didn't look comfortable with some of the new formations.

I'm hoping that with an experienced coaching staff and talent level we can overcome some of the changes and gradually work in more of the newer schemes and plays without falling flat on our faces.

If we have a slow start and look confused running/calling plays then this season could be a complete disaster and go 1-11. But until proven otherwise I'm optimistic about the team and predict a 7-5 record. We have an overall very favorable schedule and if the team learns quickly it'll set us up for a great first year.


App had a turn around point in their season against us, just like we did in 2010 against them. We struggled mightly early on looked liked we were headed for a losing season. Then we beat #1 App at home and went on an 8 (i think) game winning streak all the way to the semifinals. Then it was 2 straight semifinal finishes against the juggernaut NDSU (hate them). That's why we were so high on the team last year in preseason and expected to go undefeated (except for maybe losing to UF), but the coaching started experimenting and we had a plethora of inuries to our starters (or players that should have been starters before the season) and we looked like a confused team most of the season.
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(07-19-2014 08:35 PM)sidslidkid Wrote:  I think why I'm surprised to see App ahead of us in the poll is the fact that you guys have to go on the road to Louisiana and stAte. We don't play either, plus we get you at home. I would think that would give us a slight edge to finish better than you this year. No denying you guys have owned us in recent years. Hopefully we figure it out this year.

That is my thought too. I would predict that we'll finish ahead of them simply b/c we have a much easier conference schedule than they do.
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(07-19-2014 06:12 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(07-19-2014 06:11 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  Still showing love for app. Don't understand it, but whatever.

GS will finish higher

Truthfully, the perception I was had about the two of you when you were FCS was that App was the better program.

That Michigan win earned them mileage that you guys are only just catching up too...

App won the FCS National championship that year. They also lost to Ga Southern that year.
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RE: 2014 Sunbelt Coaches Poll
(07-21-2014 06:30 PM)Peachstealth Wrote:  
(07-19-2014 06:12 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(07-19-2014 06:11 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  Still showing love for app. Don't understand it, but whatever.

GS will finish higher

Truthfully, the perception I was had about the two of you when you were FCS was that App was the better program.

That Michigan win earned them mileage that you guys are only just catching up too...

App won the FCS National championship that year. They also lost to Ga Southern that year.

I knew they won the title that year...but I never saw their actual schedule to know who they lost too. I remember at one point wondering if they would go undefeated in FCS or not. Heard they lost twice.
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RE: 2014 Sunbelt Coaches Poll
(07-21-2014 01:11 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:04 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  There are 3 conference games that I want GS to win and 2 others that we should win.

We should be favored against NMSU and Idaho. But I really want to beat GaSt, App, and TxSt. Those three (depending on how well GaSt is doing) are games we can win, but could go either way. GaSt is right now a game I would see GS winning comfortably (but who knows), App has owned us lately and the games are usually very close, TxSt is a solid program and an away game, but I really want revenge for 2005.

oh, and GS is better than App. 04-chairshot

I'd just like to know why GaSo will be so good with a whole new offensive system being installed. Going from a "running" offense to a "spread" offense, you need to to have the personnel that will translate from one to the other...do you really have that yet?

We already ran a spread offense. Play concepts are the same, our WR's will just learn a few more routes than "Go." We're going from a man blocking scheme to a pure zone blocking scheme which will be easier. We have WR's that I'm shocked stuck around as they had the talent to play in an offense with a stronger passing threat but they were stuck blocking. We have a QB who is a dual threat and there's a couple of guys behind him that can do the same, they just don't have the game experience. The biggest change is our OL blocking upright more.

The changes we're seeing are not as vast or groundbreaking as people would believe. We've taken guys geared toward our version of the spread option and had them producing nearly 40 ppg in a shotgun read option.

I'm confident our offense will be ok, the bigger question to me is how does our defense match up against the SBC offenses. We're lacking depth at LB too and that could definitely hurt us. We're going to need to get pressure from our DL to be successful and that's something we've struggled with the past few years.
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RE: 2014 Sunbelt Coaches Poll
(07-21-2014 06:32 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 06:30 PM)Peachstealth Wrote:  
(07-19-2014 06:12 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(07-19-2014 06:11 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  Still showing love for app. Don't understand it, but whatever.

GS will finish higher

Truthfully, the perception I was had about the two of you when you were FCS was that App was the better program.

That Michigan win earned them mileage that you guys are only just catching up too...

App won the FCS National championship that year. They also lost to Ga Southern that year.

I knew they won the title that year...but I never saw their actual schedule to know who they lost too. I remember at one point wondering if they would go undefeated in FCS or not. Heard they lost twice.

App came out of that Michigan game so beat up it wasn't funny. Edwards didn't play the next two weeks due to a sore shoulder. He came back against #13 Wofford and was doing fine (11-18 for 103 yards and 37 yards rushing with the game tied at 14. He was body slammed on the second play of the second half re-injuring the same shoulder. Armanti missed the next two weeks and came back against you guys in that great 38-35 game that broke our 31 home wining streak. If someone had told me App had 557 yards TO to GSU's 435, almost double the return yards, identical penalty yards, and only down 5 minutes in TOP I'd say we win that game. But App had two passes picked, the first one going for a TD, spotted you guys 14 points and dug too deep of a hole to get out of. Then it was 8 straight to the NC.
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