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Patience grasshoppers, patience.04-cheers
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(07-14-2014 02:06 PM)stebo Wrote:  Tulane is now in the AAC, so your results would be a little different post realignment.


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Forgot about them, fixed.
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(07-14-2014 02:02 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 12:51 PM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  The article ticks me off to no end. Zero research went into that article, other than looking at previous FBS records and recruit rankings. Rather than gripe about the article, the only logical thing is for the SunBelt to take it to the field. Crucify as many OOC teams as possible and as bad as possible. Respect is earned, not lobbied.
Believe I had just read a few days ago that the Sun Belt was 8 wins and one loss against CUSA, MWC, and the MAC last year.

It was, but those numbers change drastically once NMSU and Idaho are added into the mix, they combined for an 0-5 record against CUSA alone (if you include ODU).
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I take no animosity toward USA Today. It is obviously a real light
puff piece to be filler and direct views their way. They did meager
to no research before writing. Objectivity was obviously not their
goal.
07-14-2014 02:20 PM
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(07-14-2014 02:11 PM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 02:06 PM)stebo Wrote:  Tulane is now in the AAC, so your results would be a little different post realignment.


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Forgot about them, fixed.
We are talking about last year. Idaho had no bearing, and doesn't matter that Tulane moved this year.
07-14-2014 02:22 PM
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And UTSA is still running circles around TXST. Thanks Fran and LT.
07-14-2014 02:25 PM
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The article doesn't give the top Sun Belt teams the credit they deserve, but I can see why the bottom half would hold the rankings back. If a few of us in the bottom half improve as we expect to (I think it will happen quickly for App and GS) the league will easily be ahead of the MAC and CUSA, and slightly ahead of the MWC. I see no reason why we can't go head to head with the AAC for the tops G5 ranking in a few years.
07-14-2014 02:50 PM
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I think Georgia State will be a 3-4 win team this season with bowl eligibility coming in the following year. I'm not worried about them.
I think Georgia Southern will be in the range of bowl eligibility (even though they CAN'T be bowl eligible) this year. I'm not worried about them.
I think App State will be in the range of bowl eligibility (even though they CAN'T be bowl eligible) this year. I'm not worried about them.

Idaho & NMSU are the ones that worry me.
07-14-2014 03:08 PM
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(07-14-2014 03:08 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  I think Georgia State will be a 3-4 win team this season with bowl eligibility coming in the following year. I'm not worried about them.
I think Georgia Southern will be in the range of bowl eligibility (even though they CAN'T be bowl eligible) this year. I'm not worried about them.
I think App State will be in the range of bowl eligibility (even though they CAN'T be bowl eligible) this year. I'm not worried about them.

Idaho & NMSU are the ones that worry me.

Every conference has bottom dewllers we just need them to not lose every OOC game. Whoever it is as the time the bottom teams just need to win atleast one OOC game to keep the Belt from being actually being in danger of being ranked the lowest. Outside of maybe next year with App and GaSou getting their sea legs and not being able to go to a bowl, I think the top of the Sun Belt who ever that is at the time will be strong enough to keep the Belt from ever being ranked the lowest. Ga State from here on out should not be losing to FCS teams anymore atleast which will go a long ways in conference ranking as well.
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Just have to go out an prove this guy wrong.
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MACtion... helps with the national perception!

I'm excited for the new Sun Belt members to prove themselves with full FBS schedules this year... and I hope y'all beat CUSA teams.
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(07-14-2014 05:42 PM)BobcatAttack11 Wrote:  MACtion... helps with the national perception!

I'm excited for the new Sun Belt members to prove themselves with full FBS schedules this year... and I hope y'all beat CUSA teams.

Thanks. Good luck this year to Ohio, especially when you play Marshall.
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I think Troy, South Alabama, Georgia Southern, App State, Texas State, Georgia State, and ULM and maybe UNM are stuck here in the Sun Belt for some time to come. Certainly not to disparage ULL and Ark State but I selfishly hope they hang around. No way marque universities of southern Georgia and southern Alabama settle with mediocrity in football. Texas State, Troy, and App State have invested HEAVILY in their programs and are located perfectly in the football belt. Georgia State has too much money and political leverage to fail and brings with them the Atlanta market. That's half the universities in Georgia being marketed in the 6th most populated state, 9th most populated metro area. The conference may still be perceived as the weakest of the G5 for now but the position is excellent and the competition is going to be brutal beginning next year. Focus on being number one in this conference and the rest will take care of itself.
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I'm sure that this sentiment has been posted already, but we are going to have to earn the respect in order to get it. I truly believe that from top to bottom, the SBC has more potential than any G5. It's up to us to prove that.
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(07-14-2014 05:42 PM)BobcatAttack11 Wrote:  MACtion... helps with the national perception!

I'm excited for the new Sun Belt members to prove themselves with full FBS schedules this year... and I hope y'all beat CUSA teams.

You know, I make fun of MACtion a lot, but its really worked for you guys. You've managed to create a niche within a base of college football fans who will watch any day.
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(07-14-2014 05:57 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 05:42 PM)BobcatAttack11 Wrote:  MACtion... helps with the national perception!

I'm excited for the new Sun Belt members to prove themselves with full FBS schedules this year... and I hope y'all beat CUSA teams.

Thanks. Good luck this year to Ohio, especially when you play Marshall.

Thanks to you too. Have been a fan of App State ever since watching that video of your fans carrying the goalposts to the chancellor's house; Classic.

Visited Boone once in a roadtrip morning fog... nice mountain college town. Reminded me a bit of Athens where we take pride in Appalachian Ohio.

And we've rung Marshall's bell the past 3 years... will be difficult this year.
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(07-14-2014 02:06 PM)stebo Wrote:  Tulane is now in the AAC, so your results would be a little different post realignment.


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We will see. I believe the Sun Belt has another good year against the other G5 conferences and especially against the Cusa.
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(07-14-2014 10:01 PM)BobcatAttack11 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 05:57 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 05:42 PM)BobcatAttack11 Wrote:  MACtion... helps with the national perception!

I'm excited for the new Sun Belt members to prove themselves with full FBS schedules this year... and I hope y'all beat CUSA teams.

Thanks. Good luck this year to Ohio, especially when you play Marshall.

Thanks to you too. Have been a fan of App State ever since watching that video of your fans carrying the goalposts to the chancellor's house; Classic.

Visited Boone once in a roadtrip morning fog... nice mountain college town. Reminded me a bit of Athens where we take pride in Appalachian Ohio.

And we've rung Marshall's bell the past 3 years... will be difficult this year.

MU fans seem to fear the game with Ohio as the strongest potential loss on their schedule. Mainly because you have owned them recently.
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(07-14-2014 07:38 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  I think Troy, South Alabama, Georgia Southern, App State, Texas State, Georgia State, and ULM and maybe UNM are stuck here in the Sun Belt for some time to come. Certainly not to disparage ULL and Ark State but I selfishly hope they hang around. No way marque universities of southern Georgia and southern Alabama settle with mediocrity in football. Texas State, Troy, and App State have invested HEAVILY in their programs and are located perfectly in the football belt. Georgia State has too much money and political leverage to fail and brings with them the Atlanta market. That's half the universities in Georgia being marketed in the 6th most populated state, 9th most populated metro area. The conference may still be perceived as the weakest of the G5 for now but the position is excellent and the competition is going to be brutal beginning next year. Focus on being number one in this conference and the rest will take care of itself.

Good post. We could go a long way to helping the perception of the new Sun Belt by beating Boise ST at Boise.....very doable. A Good Ole Miss Squad in Oxford the following week is going to be a lot tougher but if we play a great game who knows? Even more important IMO are the New adds to the Belt , Appalachian ST and Georgia Southern need to play the tough, competitive football that they are known for and our 2 New adds in the West need to get back to being Competitive. Georgia ST was very competitive in games last year and now need to break through with Victories.
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The article is accurate. It's about perception and ours isnt good right now. That doesn't mean that the reality of belt football is bad. It just means the rest of the count doesn't quite see it that way. So why does it matter what they think? We're going to show them on these field.

I dont think either of the newcomers will go ofer like FIU and WKU did. But until they win the perception of "lesser" will stay on them and the rest of us by proxy.

Let's check this "rating" again at the end of the season but let's not think about it until then.
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