(06-27-2014 12:22 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  One article said until it is legalized they will not have enough test dummies to study.

In the 50 and 60 smoking was cool, healthy and hip. The smart people saw through it. Over the years those that chose to be cool and hip spent over $250,000.00 on their bad habit, ended up with premature debilitating illnesses. Those that saw through the sales pitch turn out to be the wiser. Getting rich to some is much more important than being honest.

Ok well until you provide valid sources to these claim, I will just view them as your opinion and not based on medical science.

(06-27-2014 12:05 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 10:22 AM)ODUChm Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:56 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:51 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:46 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I was vaping long before most people even knew about it. It doesn't deliver all of the THC components, the high isn't as good. You end up wasting a lot of your stash. Not to mention the whole process is a huge hassle. Stoners don't like complicated processes.

Most people who vape, only do so for a while and then revert back to combustion. Part of the marijuana addiction is the smell and feel of the smoke.

There is now evidence that vaping also causes lung disease.

I've never vaped pot. I was referring more along the lines of a cigarette alternative. I am sure it is harmful, but it definitely does not have the same lung effect.

Vaping marijuana has been proven to cause testicular cancer, prostate cancer, cervical cancer, a type of brain tumor, and the risk of leukemia in the offspring of women who use it during pregnancy.

Can you provide credible sources for those claims?

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/news/study-...lar-cancer

http://www.counselheal.com/articles/2815...ocaine.htm

The claim was specifically regarding vaping. Not saying it is good for you, but it hasn't been around long enough for any studies.

(06-27-2014 12:23 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

To play along, these 20k physicans werent medical researchers investigating the influence of tobacco products on the body, they were simply basic physcians who were payed to giver their 'opinion' in between house calls.

where have the pro pot people run off to?

(06-27-2014 12:39 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 12:05 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 10:22 AM)ODUChm Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:56 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:51 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I've never vaped pot. I was referring more along the lines of a cigarette alternative. I am sure it is harmful, but it definitely does not have the same lung effect.

Vaping marijuana has been proven to cause testicular cancer, prostate cancer, cervical cancer, a type of brain tumor, and the risk of leukemia in the offspring of women who use it during pregnancy.

Can you provide credible sources for those claims?

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/news/study-...lar-cancer

http://www.counselheal.com/articles/2815...ocaine.htm

The claim was specifically regarding vaping. Not saying it is good for you, but it hasn't been around long enough for any studies.

Well if that is the case you (in the general sense) cant go around claiming it causes [insert horrible disease].

For the record as a libertarian I could care less whether or not pot gets legalized. If it does, it only means 20 years from now I'll be $250,000 richer than you potheads. And probably a lot healthier.

(06-27-2014 01:12 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  For the record as a libertarian I could care less whether or not pot gets legalized. If it does, it only means 20 years from now I'll be $250,000 richer than you potheads. And probably a lot healthier.

Using your math, over a span of 20 years a pothead spends over 1000k bucks a month. Now I was never a pothead, just smoke casually, but I do know plenty of 'potheads' and I know for a fact they dont spend (nor could) a 1000 bucks a month, at most they spend 50 dollars a week. So might want to redo your math.

Besides using your logic we could apply saving money and being healthier to not purchasing cable, eating out, owning a car, etc. but what does it matter how people spend the money they earned on their desired luxury?

I was spending about 20 per day when I was at my worst, but I was a burnout. I bought $60 worth about 6 years ago for a vacation and it took me 8 months to finish it. Couldn't believe my roommates and I used to go through that in a day on a fairly regular basis.

(06-27-2014 01:23 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 01:12 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  For the record as a libertarian I could care less whether or not pot gets legalized. If it does, it only means 20 years from now I'll be $250,000 richer than you potheads. And probably a lot healthier.

Using your math, over a span of 20 years a pothead spends over 1000k bucks a month. Now I was never a pothead, just smoke casually, but I do know plenty of 'potheads' and I know for a fact they dont spend (nor could) a 1000 bucks a month, at most they spend 50 dollars a week. So might want to redo your math.

Besides using your logic we could apply saving money and being healthier to not purchasing cable, eating out, owning a car, etc. but what does it matter how people spend the money they earned on their desired luxury?

I invest my money, it compounds.

(06-27-2014 01:34 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 01:23 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 01:12 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  For the record as a libertarian I could care less whether or not pot gets legalized. If it does, it only means 20 years from now I'll be $250,000 richer than you potheads. And probably a lot healthier.

Using your math, over a span of 20 years a pothead spends over 1000k bucks a month. Now I was never a pothead, just smoke casually, but I do know plenty of 'potheads' and I know for a fact they dont spend (nor could) a 1000 bucks a month, at most they spend 50 dollars a week. So might want to redo your math.

Besides using your logic we could apply saving money and being healthier to not purchasing cable, eating out, owning a car, etc. but what does it matter how people spend the money they earned on their desired luxury?

I invest my money, it compounds.

I'd bet my house that chart doesn't verify. I said in another thread my barber the other day was talking about how he started making money in the stock market. That is my leading indicator that the bubble is going to burst. Last time I got investment advice from him was back in 2007 when he was flipping houses on the side.

They might not get testicular cancer but are 100% surer of having Cocaine Babies. LOL


I saw guys in Thailand indulging in weed but I never tried it. I was afraid of getting caught by the Thai authorities and having put in one of their jails. It's not like one of our jails.

When I got home my brother the big time liberal nut job introduced me to it. I was 22 and I thought it was cool so that made me cool. One time I was driving home with my cousin under the influence and I have never been so scared. I would look at the speedometer and it said 20 mph but it felt like 70 to me. That was the last time I tried it because I felt that it took away my feeling of being under control. No mas.

Don't think that was the first time I had smoked it, it wasn't, it was just the first time I had driven after doping.

(06-27-2014 01:29 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I was spending about 20 per day when I was at my worst, but I was a burnout.

Man, thats obviously makes you an outlier, but no less shocking.

I spent 20 bucks a week, hell most of the time I didnt bother with a dealer, I would just give my friends 20 bucks and theyd weigh out a gram of the stuff they bought for me. Weed has always been an occasional relaxer for me, and a good way to curb me real vice: drinking.

(06-27-2014 01:59 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 01:29 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I was spending about 20 per day when I was at my worst, but I was a burnout.

Man, thats obviously makes you an outlier, but no less shocking.

I spent 20 bucks a week, hell most of the time I didnt bother with a dealer, I would just give my friends 20 bucks and they'd weigh out a gram of the stuff they bought for me. Weed has always been an occasional relaxer for me, and a good way to curb me real vice: drinking.

Yeah, later on in the semester when we were all broke, we'd scrounge up $20 for a gram between all of 3 us, making it about $7 per day. But even then it wouldn't last more than a night. Can't believe how much money I wasted nor do I even know how I got it. Skipped a lot of meals and scammed my parents a several time for sure.

(06-27-2014 09:39 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:37 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  People need to talk about the harmful effects of alcohol and the fact that 10% of adult deaths are a direct result of alcohol.

People have been talking about that for decades. What is your point?

That it should be illegal. It causes cancer, people can OD from it, and it ruins lives and marriages.

(06-27-2014 09:43 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  10%? Where do you get that from?

My evening news last night.

(06-27-2014 02:15 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:39 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:37 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  People need to talk about the harmful effects of alcohol and the fact that 10% of adult deaths are a direct result of alcohol.

People have been talking about that for decades. What is your point?

That it should be illegal. It causes cancer, people can OD from it, and it ruins lives and marriages.

(06-27-2014 09:43 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  10%? Where do you get that from?

My evening news last night.

Using the fact that one toxic chemical is legal as justification to legalize another is an illogical argument.

If you smoke pot and then drive, is it as dangerous as driving drunk? That is, are you similarly impaired?

I thought right wing loonies thought the U. N. was all a part of the conspiracy to over throw the U.S. If true, why post such an obviously unbelievable source. Unless of course it fits your agenda, then The U.N. is right on. Hypocrits.

(06-27-2014 02:03 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 01:59 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 01:29 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I was spending about 20 per day when I was at my worst, but I was a burnout.

Man, thats obviously makes you an outlier, but no less shocking.

I spent 20 bucks a week, hell most of the time I didnt bother with a dealer, I would just give my friends 20 bucks and they'd weigh out a gram of the stuff they bought for me. Weed has always been an occasional relaxer for me, and a good way to curb me real vice: drinking.

Yeah, later on in the semester when we were all broke, we'd scrounge up $20 for a gram between all of 3 us, making it about $7 per day. But even then it wouldn't last more than a night. Can't believe how much money I wasted nor do I even know how I got it. Skipped a lot of meals and scammed my parents a several time for sure.

Now your idiocy makes sense. Poor fella

(06-27-2014 03:43 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  If you smoke pot and then drive, is it as dangerous as driving drunk? That is, are you similarly impaired?

Since in my youth I did both I would say that they're both just as dangerous. While one (booze) makes you feel invincible you tend to drive faster. God has really been on my side during my youth otherwise I'd be long dead and suffering in hell right now. With weed you're paranoid and you think everyone knows you indulged. You drive really slow but it seems like you're going really fast. Your reflexes are very slow much slower than if you were elderly.