(06-23-2014 05:49 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 07:34 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 09:33 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  From my Texas friend they were looking at BYU, Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulane, Rice and the Florida schools were an after thought

From what I read in October it was byu Ucf usf Cincinnati and uconn. They were supposed to have submitted packages for review. Financials ratings info academic info etc. Rice and Tulane were not in the picture. I am curious as to what they thought rice and Tulane would bring? Stellar academic schools. Rice has great baseball but I don't see any value outside of that to the b12. In addition in recent articles luck and others have said they are looking east.


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That is from the Dude of West Virginia. That guy has proven to not be a reliable source.

The dude is not the only one who said it. There are some articles out there and some other bloggers mentioned it as well.


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(06-23-2014 06:29 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 05:49 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 07:34 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 09:33 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  From my Texas friend they were looking at BYU, Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulane, Rice and the Florida schools were an after thought

From what I read in October it was byu Ucf usf Cincinnati and uconn. They were supposed to have submitted packages for review. Financials ratings info academic info etc. Rice and Tulane were not in the picture. I am curious as to what they thought rice and Tulane would bring? Stellar academic schools. Rice has great baseball but I don't see any value outside of that to the b12. In addition in recent articles luck and others have said they are looking east.


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That is from the Dude of West Virginia. That guy has proven to not be a reliable source.

The dude is not the only one who said it. There are some articles out there and some other bloggers mentioned it as well.


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I remember reading it from a legit source too. Don't remember where exactly but I think it was a newspaper

(06-23-2014 01:51 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 06:29 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 05:49 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 07:34 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 09:33 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  From my Texas friend they were looking at BYU, Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulane, Rice and the Florida schools were an after thought

From what I read in October it was byu Ucf usf Cincinnati and uconn. They were supposed to have submitted packages for review. Financials ratings info academic info etc. Rice and Tulane were not in the picture. I am curious as to what they thought rice and Tulane would bring? Stellar academic schools. Rice has great baseball but I don't see any value outside of that to the b12. In addition in recent articles luck and others have said they are looking east.


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That is from the Dude of West Virginia. That guy has proven to not be a reliable source.

The dude is not the only one who said it. There are some articles out there and some other bloggers mentioned it as well.


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I remember reading it from a legit source too. Don't remember where exactly but I think it was a newspaper

I can tell you that Ucf sends it's ratings directly to the b12 and the acc every week. In November the local 247 knights site owner also mentioned the recruits mentioning a move to the b12 fwiw.


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(06-21-2014 11:04 AM)goofus Wrote:  The next step is the big 12 needs to figure out what it ultimately wants to be and move towards that goal. If it wants to be a multi - time zone national conference with the best football programs available, they should go after programs like BYU.

If they want to go after top media markets and recruiting territories, they should go after programs in Florida like UCF, or in California like SDSU. Maybe even in Ohio like Cincinnati.

If the goal is to build a bridge to West Virginia, then maybe Memphis and Cincy make sense.

If the goal is to go back the roots of the big 12 and add Central time zone schools that are #1 or #2 schools in their state, then maybe the long term goal is Missouri State, Arkansas State, La Tech, Northern Illinois, Memphis, NDSU. If you want to stretch this definition to neighboring time zones, you could throw in New Mexico, Colorado State, Cincy, BYU.

The first step is the big 12 has to decide what it wants to be when it grows up.

fair analysis

(06-23-2014 05:50 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 01:51 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 06:29 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 05:49 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 07:34 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  From what I read in October it was byu Ucf usf Cincinnati and uconn. They were supposed to have submitted packages for review. Financials ratings info academic info etc. Rice and Tulane were not in the picture. I am curious as to what they thought rice and Tulane would bring? Stellar academic schools. Rice has great baseball but I don't see any value outside of that to the b12. In addition in recent articles luck and others have said they are looking east.


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That is from the Dude of West Virginia. That guy has proven to not be a reliable source.

The dude is not the only one who said it. There are some articles out there and some other bloggers mentioned it as well.


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I remember reading it from a legit source too. Don't remember where exactly but I think it was a newspaper

I can tell you that Ucf sends it's ratings directly to the b12 and the acc every week. In November the local 247 knights site owner also mentioned the recruits mentioning a move to the b12 fwiw.


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Join the club. UC recruits said the same thing and so did Louisville recruits prior to them joining the ACC. Coaches are pretty much telling kids whatever in order to get them to commit it seems like.

(06-24-2014 08:52 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 05:50 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 01:51 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 06:29 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 05:49 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  That is from the Dude of West Virginia. That guy has proven to not be a reliable source.

The dude is not the only one who said it. There are some articles out there and some other bloggers mentioned it as well.


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I remember reading it from a legit source too. Don't remember where exactly but I think it was a newspaper

I can tell you that Ucf sends it's ratings directly to the b12 and the acc every week. In November the local 247 knights site owner also mentioned the recruits mentioning a move to the b12 fwiw.


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Join the club. UC recruits said the same thing and so did Louisville recruits prior to them joining the ACC. Coaches are pretty much telling kids whatever in order to get them to commit it seems like.

That's not our mo though. One of the things every recruit has said is Ucf is always up front and doesn't bs them. They also don't ask for commitments right away and ask them to think it through. It's one of the things Ucf is known for.


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(06-24-2014 09:30 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 08:52 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 05:50 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 01:51 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 06:29 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  The dude is not the only one who said it. There are some articles out there and some other bloggers mentioned it as well.


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I remember reading it from a legit source too. Don't remember where exactly but I think it was a newspaper

I can tell you that Ucf sends it's ratings directly to the b12 and the acc every week. In November the local 247 knights site owner also mentioned the recruits mentioning a move to the b12 fwiw.


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Join the club. UC recruits said the same thing and so did Louisville recruits prior to them joining the ACC. Coaches are pretty much telling kids whatever in order to get them to commit it seems like.

That's not our mo though. One of the things every recruit has said is Ucf is always up front and doesn't bs them. They also don't ask for commitments right away and ask them to think it through. It's one of the things Ucf is known for.


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Desperate times call for desperate measures. Conference realignment is all played so close to vest that recruits won't be the ones to break the news.

(06-24-2014 09:30 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 08:52 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 05:50 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 01:51 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 06:29 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  The dude is not the only one who said it. There are some articles out there and some other bloggers mentioned it as well.


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I remember reading it from a legit source too. Don't remember where exactly but I think it was a newspaper

I can tell you that Ucf sends it's ratings directly to the b12 and the acc every week. In November the local 247 knights site owner also mentioned the recruits mentioning a move to the b12 fwiw.


Posted from my mobile device using the CSNbbs App

Join the club. UC recruits said the same thing and so did Louisville recruits prior to them joining the ACC. Coaches are pretty much telling kids whatever in order to get them to commit it seems like.

That's not our mo though. One of the things every recruit has said is Ucf is always up front and doesn't bs them. They also don't ask for commitments right away and ask them to think it through. It's one of the things Ucf is known for.


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Lol you have your head buried in the sand on this one buddy. Coaches tell kids what they want to hear. Every single one of them. Recruiting is a dirty game and every school and coach plays it the same, none of us are above it. Your coaches aren't the first one to pull the "we are moving to a new conference" card, off the top of my head ECU, Temple, Villanova and Cincy have all used that tactic

(06-24-2014 11:02 AM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 09:30 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 08:52 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 05:50 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 01:51 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  I remember reading it from a legit source too. Don't remember where exactly but I think it was a newspaper

I can tell you that Ucf sends it's ratings directly to the b12 and the acc every week. In November the local 247 knights site owner also mentioned the recruits mentioning a move to the b12 fwiw.


Posted from my mobile device using the CSNbbs App

Join the club. UC recruits said the same thing and so did Louisville recruits prior to them joining the ACC. Coaches are pretty much telling kids whatever in order to get them to commit it seems like.

That's not our mo though. One of the things every recruit has said is Ucf is always up front and doesn't bs them. They also don't ask for commitments right away and ask them to think it through. It's one of the things Ucf is known for.


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Lol you have your head buried in the sand on this one buddy. Coaches tell kids what they want to hear. Every single one of them. Recruiting is a dirty game and every school and coach plays it the same, none of us are above it. Your coaches aren't the first one to pull the "we are moving to a new conference" card, off the top of my head ECU, Temple, Villanova and Cincy have all used that tactic

UL has done it. I even got an IM that FSU had done it, claiming they were moving to the Big 12 to a Texas recruit (3rd hand, but a poster was friends with a coach whose athlete was told by FSU they were moving to the Big 12).

Nothing is going to happen until the NCAA rules on the method by which a champion can be determined in a conference/elimination of divisions.
When that is completed then ANY conference will know if the need to have even numbers or not.

(06-24-2014 12:20 PM)XLance Wrote:  Nothing is going to happen until the NCAA rules on the method by which a champion can be determined in a conference/elimination of divisions.
When that is completed then ANY conference will know if the need to have even numbers or not.

the Big 12 is not looking to have a CCG no matter how many members they have in the conference.....so that ruling at least at first will have no bearing on the addition of teams to the Big 12 and if the rule goes into place the Big 12 would still not need to add teams even if they eventually did desire to have a CCG

(06-24-2014 12:25 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 12:20 PM)XLance Wrote:  Nothing is going to happen until the NCAA rules on the method by which a champion can be determined in a conference/elimination of divisions.
When that is completed then ANY conference will know if the need to have even numbers or not.

the Big 12 is not looking to have a CCG no matter how many members they have in the conference.....so that ruling at least at first will have no bearing on the addition of teams to the Big 12 and if the rule goes into place the Big 12 would still not need to add teams even if they eventually did desire to have a CCG

Denial, river, Egypt, etc....

(06-24-2014 12:25 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 12:20 PM)XLance Wrote:  Nothing is going to happen until the NCAA rules on the method by which a champion can be determined in a conference/elimination of divisions.
When that is completed then ANY conference will know if the need to have even numbers or not.

the Big 12 is not looking to have a CCG no matter how many members they have in the conference.....so that ruling at least at first will have no bearing on the addition of teams to the Big 12 and if the rule goes into place the Big 12 would still not need to add teams even if they eventually did desire to have a CCG

It might if they lose access


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(06-24-2014 11:02 AM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 09:30 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 08:52 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 05:50 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 01:51 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  I remember reading it from a legit source too. Don't remember where exactly but I think it was a newspaper

I can tell you that Ucf sends it's ratings directly to the b12 and the acc every week. In November the local 247 knights site owner also mentioned the recruits mentioning a move to the b12 fwiw.


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Join the club. UC recruits said the same thing and so did Louisville recruits prior to them joining the ACC. Coaches are pretty much telling kids whatever in order to get them to commit it seems like.

That's not our mo though. One of the things every recruit has said is Ucf is always up front and doesn't bs them. They also don't ask for commitments right away and ask them to think it through. It's one of the things Ucf is known for.


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Lol you have your head buried in the sand on this one buddy. Coaches tell kids what they want to hear. Every single one of them. Recruiting is a dirty game and every school and coach plays it the same, none of us are above it. Your coaches aren't the first one to pull the "we are moving to a new conference" card, off the top of my head ECU, Temple, Villanova and Cincy have all used that tactic

Maybe but you don't know our coaching staff. We turn down recruits for education behavior etc. not to mention saving scholarships for this who committed and leaving better talent on the table. If you are around the program you understand that they are upfront and don't participate in those shenanigans.


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(06-24-2014 12:26 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 12:25 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 12:20 PM)XLance Wrote:  Nothing is going to happen until the NCAA rules on the method by which a champion can be determined in a conference/elimination of divisions.
When that is completed then ANY conference will know if the need to have even numbers or not.

the Big 12 is not looking to have a CCG no matter how many members they have in the conference.....so that ruling at least at first will have no bearing on the addition of teams to the Big 12 and if the rule goes into place the Big 12 would still not need to add teams even if they eventually did desire to have a CCG

Denial, river, Egypt, etc....

http://newsok.com/big-12-football-no-pla...le/3794029

But clearly, the Big 12 has no immediate interest in a conference championship game, and commissioner Bob Bowlsby has some major ammunition in explaining why.

“Would we go back to a conference championship game?” Bowlsby asked. “Take a look at the attendance on the conference championship games this year and take a look at the TV ratings. They aren’t the kind of things that are going to invite you to take that up as a new business proposition.”

“We don’t have any aspiration to bring back the conference championship game,” Bowlsby said last week while speaking at the OSU Spears School of Business’ Executive Management Briefings at the Cox Center. “That is not the essence of why we forwarded our plan to forward the legislation to deregulate that.”

The Big 12 would prefer at least keeping the option of a 10-team league, even if it is required to play a title game.

“We aren’t aspirationally planning to do that. We just think it ought to be deregulated, and it obviously gives us flexibility if we ever change our mind.”

so right from the Big 12 commissioner being quoted

not looking to have a ccg

if required to have a ccg still like 10 teams

could change mind......but do not see that in the foreseeable future

so deny all you wish that is on you

(06-24-2014 01:00 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 11:02 AM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 09:30 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 08:52 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 05:50 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  I can tell you that Ucf sends it's ratings directly to the b12 and the acc every week. In November the local 247 knights site owner also mentioned the recruits mentioning a move to the b12 fwiw.


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Join the club. UC recruits said the same thing and so did Louisville recruits prior to them joining the ACC. Coaches are pretty much telling kids whatever in order to get them to commit it seems like.

That's not our mo though. One of the things every recruit has said is Ucf is always up front and doesn't bs them. They also don't ask for commitments right away and ask them to think it through. It's one of the things Ucf is known for.


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Lol you have your head buried in the sand on this one buddy. Coaches tell kids what they want to hear. Every single one of them. Recruiting is a dirty game and every school and coach plays it the same, none of us are above it. Your coaches aren't the first one to pull the "we are moving to a new conference" card, off the top of my head ECU, Temple, Villanova and Cincy have all used that tactic

Maybe but you don't know our coaching staff. We turn down recruits for education behavior etc. not to mention saving scholarships for this who committed and leaving better talent on the table. If you are around the program you understand that they are upfront and don't participate in those shenanigans.


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I'm not trying to be insulting because I have absolutely nothing against UCF but give me a f'n break, your head coach is George O Leary for Gods sake. Maybe you just started following college football because you are extremely naive

(06-24-2014 03:57 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 01:00 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 11:02 AM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 09:30 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 08:52 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  Join the club. UC recruits said the same thing and so did Louisville recruits prior to them joining the ACC. Coaches are pretty much telling kids whatever in order to get them to commit it seems like.

That's not our mo though. One of the things every recruit has said is Ucf is always up front and doesn't bs them. They also don't ask for commitments right away and ask them to think it through. It's one of the things Ucf is known for.


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Lol you have your head buried in the sand on this one buddy. Coaches tell kids what they want to hear. Every single one of them. Recruiting is a dirty game and every school and coach plays it the same, none of us are above it. Your coaches aren't the first one to pull the "we are moving to a new conference" card, off the top of my head ECU, Temple, Villanova and Cincy have all used that tactic

Maybe but you don't know our coaching staff. We turn down recruits for education behavior etc. not to mention saving scholarships for this who committed and leaving better talent on the table. If you are around the program you understand that they are upfront and don't participate in those shenanigans.


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I'm not trying to be insulting because I have absolutely nothing against UCF but give me a f'n break, your head coach is George O Leary for Gods sake. Maybe you just started following college football because you are extremely naive

I have been following cfb and our program for a long time. Gols resume gaafe is his cross to bear. Cynicism is the opposite extreme of naievity


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Maybe the Pac can do everyone a favor and get Texas, Texas Tech., Oklahoma and Oklahoma St. to join them and with yet another miracle, the B1G will take UConn and Temple while the ACC takes Navy and Notre Dame as a Full member. Then the SEC could grab Baylor and Kansas which could get the rest of the American and BYU into the Big 12.

If that ever happens, I'm buying a ton of Lottery Tickets.