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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
What schools are blocking the move and why?
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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
(06-19-2014 01:49 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  What schools are blocking the move and why?



Western
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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
Good question. And non-stop flights from ATL to Austin (TX St) vs ATL to El Paso is only about an hour more in flight time according to travel websites.

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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
(06-19-2014 01:11 PM)panama Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 12:55 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  I have been in favor of adding NMSU full sports, but that is a lot of travel for Olympic sports.

Not really. Youre already going to Texas for UTA and Texas State. Its another TX trip. Its an air trip to to El Paso...

Agree completely . . Las Cruces is in the Greater El Paso Metro Area. Whenever we are in Cruces we always head over to El Paso as it is not far at all. NMSU for all sports is a good idea. When NMSU left for the WAC they did not leave on bad terms . . they should have stayed in the SBC, but none of us have a crystal ball and who at that time thought WAC Football would collapse ??


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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
(06-19-2014 01:49 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  What schools are blocking the move and why?

Blocking? I believe they are all located east of Mobile Bay.

Why? Because they're stupid.

That is all.
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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
(06-19-2014 02:01 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  Blocking? I believe they are all located east of Mobile Bay.

Why? Because they're stupid.

That is all.

All the more reason not to add any more Eastern schools.
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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
Stay tuned -- I expect all this expansion stuff to heat up again come January-March of next year. Honestly I don't know what Ga. Southern's position is on any candidate. It just seems logical that the eastern schools would want another eastern school since the conference is currently sort of divided into 6 western schools and 5 eastern schools.
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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
(06-19-2014 02:01 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 01:49 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  What schools are blocking the move and why?

Blocking? I believe they are all located east of Mobile Bay.

Why? Because they're stupid.

That is all.

Even though I am in favor of adding NMSU, I imagine they would equate addding
NMSU to adding UMass just for football. Imagine Western schools do not want
to do that, so are they stupid as you put it for that?
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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
(06-19-2014 02:20 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Even though I am in favor of adding NMSU, I imagine they would equate addding
NMSU to adding UMass just for football. Imagine Western schools do not want
to do that, so are they stupid as you put it for that?


I'll rephrase.

They're short sighted.

New Mexico State is already a FB member. UMASS is not.

New Mexico State basketball will probably generate revenue for the league and replace an important departing basketball revenue generator.
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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
(06-19-2014 02:46 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:20 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Even though I am in favor of adding NMSU, I imagine they would equate addding
NMSU to adding UMass just for football. Imagine Western schools do not want
to do that, so are they stupid as you put it for that?


I'll rephrase.

They're short sighted.

New Mexico State is already a FB member. UMASS is not.

New Mexico State basketball will probably generate revenue for the league and replace an important departing basketball revenue generator.
And badly help RPI
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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
(06-19-2014 02:46 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:20 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Even though I am in favor of adding NMSU, I imagine they would equate addding
NMSU to adding UMass just for football. Imagine Western schools do not want
to do that, so are they stupid as you put it for that?


I'll rephrase.

They're short sighted.

New Mexico State is already a FB member. UMASS is not.

New Mexico State basketball will probably generate revenue for the league and replace an important departing basketball revenue generator.

UMASS is FBS.
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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
(06-19-2014 03:03 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:46 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:20 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Even though I am in favor of adding NMSU, I imagine they would equate addding
NMSU to adding UMass just for football. Imagine Western schools do not want
to do that, so are they stupid as you put it for that?


I'll rephrase.

They're short sighted.

New Mexico State is already a FB member. UMASS is not.

New Mexico State basketball will probably generate revenue for the league and replace an important departing basketball revenue generator.

UMASS is FBS.

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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
(06-19-2014 03:03 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:46 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:20 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Even though I am in favor of adding NMSU, I imagine they would equate addding
NMSU to adding UMass just for football. Imagine Western schools do not want
to do that, so are they stupid as you put it for that?


I'll rephrase.

They're short sighted.

New Mexico State is already a FB member. UMASS is not.

New Mexico State basketball will probably generate revenue for the league and replace an important departing basketball revenue generator.

UMASS is FBS.

FB=football
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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
(06-19-2014 02:46 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:20 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Even though I am in favor of adding NMSU, I imagine they would equate addding
NMSU to adding UMass just for football. Imagine Western schools do not want
to do that, so are they stupid as you put it for that?


I'll rephrase.

They're short sighted.

New Mexico State is already a FB member. UMASS is not.

New Mexico State basketball will probably generate revenue for the league and replace an important departing basketball revenue generator.
The SBC is almost always going to be a 1 bid league. NMSU isn't going to make it a multi bid league, so I seriously doubt they contribute any additional revenue. They have a solid basketball program, but it isn't THAT good. I don't think they're really any more likely to make the tournament and pull an upset than anyone else in the SBC because whoever wins is almost always going to be a 14 seed or worse. Don't win games as a 14 seed very often.
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(06-19-2014 03:51 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:46 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:20 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Even though I am in favor of adding NMSU, I imagine they would equate addding
NMSU to adding UMass just for football. Imagine Western schools do not want
to do that, so are they stupid as you put it for that?


I'll rephrase.

They're short sighted.

New Mexico State is already a FB member. UMASS is not.

New Mexico State basketball will probably generate revenue for the league and replace an important departing basketball revenue generator.
The SBC is almost always going to be a 1 bid league. NMSU isn't going to make it a multi bid league, so I seriously doubt they contribute any additional revenue. They have a solid basketball program, but it isn't THAT good. I don't think they're really any more likely to make the tournament and pull an upset than anyone else in the SBC because whoever wins is almost always going to be a 14 seed or worse. Don't win games as a 14 seed very often.

I'm sorry, are you talking about a team that finished with an RPI 70 spots ahead of you?

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RE: Mohajir Emphatically Says not adding NMSU is a mistake
(06-19-2014 03:51 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:46 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:20 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Even though I am in favor of adding NMSU, I imagine they would equate addding
NMSU to adding UMass just for football. Imagine Western schools do not want
to do that, so are they stupid as you put it for that?


I'll rephrase.

They're short sighted.

New Mexico State is already a FB member. UMASS is not.

New Mexico State basketball will probably generate revenue for the league and replace an important departing basketball revenue generator.
The SBC is almost always going to be a 1 bid league. NMSU isn't going to make it a multi bid league, so I seriously doubt they contribute any additional revenue. They have a solid basketball program, but it isn't THAT good. I don't think they're really any more likely to make the tournament and pull an upset than anyone else in the SBC because whoever wins is almost always going to be a 14 seed or worse. Don't win games as a 14 seed very often.

+1. They don't bring a 2nd bid so all they do is run up travel costs.
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(06-19-2014 03:59 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 03:51 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:46 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:20 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Even though I am in favor of adding NMSU, I imagine they would equate addding
NMSU to adding UMass just for football. Imagine Western schools do not want
to do that, so are they stupid as you put it for that?


I'll rephrase.

They're short sighted.

New Mexico State is already a FB member. UMASS is not.

New Mexico State basketball will probably generate revenue for the league and replace an important departing basketball revenue generator.
The SBC is almost always going to be a 1 bid league. NMSU isn't going to make it a multi bid league, so I seriously doubt they contribute any additional revenue. They have a solid basketball program, but it isn't THAT good. I don't think they're really any more likely to make the tournament and pull an upset than anyone else in the SBC because whoever wins is almost always going to be a 14 seed or worse. Don't win games as a 14 seed very often.

+1. They don't bring a 2nd bid so all they do is run up travel costs.

Their sub 80 RPI juuuust might be helpful
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Let's be honest 49er fans you're going to be the new FIU of your conference and your input is not needed in this discussion. (i'm sure I speak for ALL golden panthers fans in saying thank you for taking their coveted spot in dead last).

Now, in regards to NMSU:

they're an established FBS/Division 1 program

if we had to go with a controversial univertisty (...Liberty..), or one that jumped the gun and is realizing they should've stayed at the FCS level (...UMass)

I would put my faith on the aggies
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(06-19-2014 04:09 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  Let's be honest 49er fans you're going to be the new FIU of your conference and your input is not needed in this discussion. (i'm sure I speak for ALL golden panthers fans in saying thank you for taking their coveted spot in dead last).

Now, in regards to NMSU:

they're an established FBS/Division 1 program

if we had to go with a controversial univertisty (...Liberty..), or one that jumped the gun and is realizing they should've stayed at the FCS level (...UMass)

I would put my faith on the aggies

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(06-19-2014 04:08 PM)panama Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 03:59 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 03:51 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:46 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  
(06-19-2014 02:20 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Even though I am in favor of adding NMSU, I imagine they would equate addding
NMSU to adding UMass just for football. Imagine Western schools do not want
to do that, so are they stupid as you put it for that?


I'll rephrase.

They're short sighted.

New Mexico State is already a FB member. UMASS is not.

New Mexico State basketball will probably generate revenue for the league and replace an important departing basketball revenue generator.
The SBC is almost always going to be a 1 bid league. NMSU isn't going to make it a multi bid league, so I seriously doubt they contribute any additional revenue. They have a solid basketball program, but it isn't THAT good. I don't think they're really any more likely to make the tournament and pull an upset than anyone else in the SBC because whoever wins is almost always going to be a 14 seed or worse. Don't win games as a 14 seed very often.

+1. They don't bring a 2nd bid so all they do is run up travel costs.

Their sub 80 RPI juuuust might be helpful

I wonder if NMSU basketball program would become worse by joining the Sun Belt. Not sure recruits would want to fly all over the country to play a bunch of football oriented schools that are terrible in basketball.

So, could we really count on them for an 80 RPI every year? Not so sure.

The first thing we need to know before expanding is if the 12 member requirement for a championship game will be lifted.
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