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More voices call for Congress to rein in college athletics
06-17-2014 09:05 AM
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RE: More voices call for Congress to rein in college athletics
I won't hold my breath but glad to see some starting to come around. Tax exempt money makers built on the backs of taxpayers and college students. Now that everything is up and running at a ridiculous rate they want to shut the door on everyone. Did anyone think you could get to the point of paying one coach $6 million and not potentially ruin the good thing that has existed for so long?

The solution should be to reel in salaries, increase benefits to athletes, offer stability to coaches and athletes and monitor the competitive fairness of the system. Don't like it? Don't take the exemptions and the State money and facilities.
06-17-2014 09:24 AM
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RE: More voices call for Congress to rein in college athletics
Already active in Congress are the National Collegiate Athletics Accountability Act introduced by Rep. Charlie Dent, R-Pa., and Rep. Joyce Beatty, D-Ohio, and the Collegiate Student-Athlete Protection Act introduced by Tony Cardenas, D-Calif., and co-sponsored by Rep. Betty McCollum, who represents Minnesota's Fourth District.

But..but..but the politicians don't care about college athletics and will always go along with the biggest school in their state! At least that's what I've been told over and over by P5 fans.
06-17-2014 12:31 PM
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RE: More voices call for Congress to rein in college athletics
I tend to think that the intercollegiate athletics issue could make some strange bedfellows assuming the goobers in Congress ever talk to each other.

One end of the spectrum you have liberal leaning members who will likely want to know why a school has $80 million or $100 million or much in revenue and plows it all back into athletics (usually with a little more from the school) when it could be used to make education more affordable and open to more people.

Then on the other end of the spectrum you've got the more Tea Party leaning conservatives who likely want to know why the government has to fund grants and student loans when schools could tap into this very large revenue source if they spent it in a responsible manner.
06-17-2014 12:40 PM
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RE: More voices call for Congress to rein in college athletics
Quote:They're hiding behind the skirts of the rest of the NCAA institutions."

Quote:Lopiano's group says sharing the $470 million expected to be generated by the new FBS football playoff evenly among the 130 Division I football schools would solve most, if not all, student- welfare issues.

Why not split the $470 mill between only those schools who make the playoffs? How is it that a few nonprofits have the authority to decide how money get's distributed among the other nonprofits? Universities remain independent institutions (or businesses) despite being members of an association. The private market requires judicial oversight when merging to avoid monopoly. Nonprofit is simple code for tax exempt. They exist due to the critical role they play in society. The decision should be made by the people. The 1,000 other NCAA institutions should form their own association and ban P5 institutions from accepting JUCO transfers. Now that entering FBS is almost impossible thanks to the P5, this could raise the competitive level in collegiate sports while inhibiting the great P5 over time.05-stirthepot
06-17-2014 08:49 PM
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RE: More voices call for Congress to rein in college athletics
I like the sharing for all 130 FBS teams, but would hear a ton of screaming.
Would be fair though.
06-17-2014 09:25 PM
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RE: More voices call for Congress to rein in college athletics
(06-17-2014 09:25 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  I like the sharing for all 130 FBS teams, but would hear a ton of screaming.
Would be fair though.

Expecting fair is unrealistic, and perhaps not fair in the other direction.

What I think is right is for there to be 10 slots from all FBS conference champions plus two wild cards.

This would ultimately improve the quality of every FBS conference because every FBS conference team would have a shot at a title.

Over time, that would solve a lot of the money problems naturally because the quality gap would narrow. Some of these programs would always still be wealthier...but that's okay as long as competition is improved.
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RE: More voices call for Congress to rein in college athletics
I just wish the Sun Belt/ACC plan had gained traction. 1-4 playoff, 5-20 placed in bowls with respect paid to historic match-ups and make it what you kill like the NCAA Tournament.

We don't need the money nearly as much as we need the access. Get the access and do something with it and you can build a profitable brand.

Look no further than what is happening at AState and UL are doing. Without busting, we are tapping into a lot of new money, make that next step and great things can happen.
06-18-2014 08:30 AM
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(06-17-2014 11:45 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(06-17-2014 09:25 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  I like the sharing for all 130 FBS teams, but would hear a ton of screaming.
Would be fair though.

Expecting fair is unrealistic, and perhaps not fair in the other direction.

What I think is right is for there to be 10 slots from all FBS conference champions plus two wild cards.

This would ultimately improve the quality of every FBS conference because every FBS conference team would have a shot at a title.

Over time, that would solve a lot of the money problems naturally because the quality gap would narrow. Some of these programs would always still be wealthier...but that's okay as long as competition is improved.

That would be something that the whole country could get into.
10 conference champions + 2 battling it out for the national championship. Those games would have fantastic viewerships. Plus everyone would have and make more money.
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(06-18-2014 10:31 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  
(06-17-2014 11:45 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(06-17-2014 09:25 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  I like the sharing for all 130 FBS teams, but would hear a ton of screaming.
Would be fair though.

Expecting fair is unrealistic, and perhaps not fair in the other direction.

What I think is right is for there to be 10 slots from all FBS conference champions plus two wild cards.

This would ultimately improve the quality of every FBS conference because every FBS conference team would have a shot at a title.

Over time, that would solve a lot of the money problems naturally because the quality gap would narrow. Some of these programs would always still be wealthier...but that's okay as long as competition is improved.

That would be something that the whole country could get into.
10 conference champions + 2 battling it out for the national championship. Those games would have fantastic viewerships. Plus everyone would have and make more money.
But competition is scary. Someone might catch you someday. It is far easier to set up a cartel that breaks the knees of anyone who might have a chance to become a threat.
06-18-2014 10:50 AM
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They already have a cartel set up, so the other part should be easy.
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RE: More voices call for Congress to rein in college athletics
I've been saying for some time that the accelerated spending is economically unsustainable. Financial management at many schools is now beginning to be called into question (see Minnesota articles on their billion dollar staffing cost). I look at some of these 90,000 plus stadiums at the same time I read articles regarding dwindling attendance. Don't be surprised to see federal or maybe even state actions to limit spending maybe even combined with revenue sharing.

There are way too many states with out big spending programs and I am sure politicians are starting to get an earful from none p-5 interest who resent the separation movement and see it as a treat to their local universities and economies. Let's face it, there are many universities that make up the backbone of their community. You constrain their ability to be seen and anti-trust accusations will start flying. Not to mention what will happen if one of the p-5 schools or their booster funds go bust. It will happen sooner or later at this rate.
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