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Jackson State overcomes adversity just to make Lafayette Regional
Jackson State, the Cajuns first opponent in the Lafayette Regional, had to overcome alot of adversity just to be in a Regional.

On May 5th, Jackson State's bus caught on fire on their way to play Savannah St. Most of their baseball equipment along with personal items were lost in the blaze on the side of the interstate where the bus burnt along with explosions which left a shell of a bus.

Thank goodness nobody was injured, after seeing the pictures of the burnt bus. I have no clue how they all got out of the bus.

Ole Miss and Mississippi St. were kind enough to give them new baseball equipment such as gloves, bats, etc.. Jackson St. overcame the adversity to win the SWAC tournament and the automatic bid to the Lafayette Regional.

By the way, Jackson State has an RPI of 269, so we better clobber them. Every game will be tough in post season.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-base...n-bus-fire

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/jacks...d/8734173/

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/bd...-Crazy-May
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(05-26-2014 06:39 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  Jackson State, the Cajuns first opponent in the Lafayette Regional, had to overcome alot of adversity just to be in a Regional.

On May 5th, Jackson State's bus caught on fire on their way to play Savannah St. Most of their baseball equipment along with personal items were lost in the blaze on the side of the interstate where the bus burnt along with explosions which left a shell of a bus.

Thank goodness nobody was injured.

Ole Miss and Mississippi St. were kind enough to give them new baseball equipment such as gloves, bats, etc.. Jackson St. overcame the adversity to win the SWAC tournament and the automatic bid to the Lafayette Regional.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-base...n-bus-fire

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/bd...-Crazy-May

You know...it hit me how nice that was of those other programs, but I must ask honestly if the same thing had happened to an Arkansas D1 school if the University of Arkansas would have lifted a finger.

The optimistic side of my brain tells me they would...but still...one has to wonder.
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(05-26-2014 06:39 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  Jackson State, the Cajuns first opponent in the Lafayette Regional, had to overcome alot of adversity just to be in a Regional.

On May 5th, Jackson State's bus caught on fire on their way to play Savannah St. Most of their baseball equipment along with personal items were lost in the blaze on the side of the interstate where the bus burnt along with explosions which left a shell of a bus.

Thank goodness nobody was injured.

Ole Miss and Mississippi St. were kind enough to give them new baseball equipment such as gloves, bats, etc.. Jackson St. overcame the adversity to win the SWAC tournament and the automatic bid to the Lafayette Regional.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-base...n-bus-fire

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/bd...-Crazy-May

You know...it hit me how nice that was of those other programs, but I must ask honestly if the same thing had happened to an Arkansas D1 school if the University of Arkansas would have lifted a finger.

The optimistic side of my brain tells me they would...but still...one has to wonder.

You know when it comes to something bad like that, I think schools will help each other out.

I think LSU would help UL out and vice versa.
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(05-26-2014 06:39 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  Jackson State, the Cajuns first opponent in the Lafayette Regional, had to overcome alot of adversity just to be in a Regional.

On May 5th, Jackson State's bus caught on fire on their way to play Savannah St. Most of their baseball equipment along with personal items were lost in the blaze on the side of the interstate where the bus burnt along with explosions which left a shell of a bus.

Thank goodness nobody was injured.

Ole Miss and Mississippi St. were kind enough to give them new baseball equipment such as gloves, bats, etc.. Jackson St. overcame the adversity to win the SWAC tournament and the automatic bid to the Lafayette Regional.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-base...n-bus-fire

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/bd...-Crazy-May

You know...it hit me how nice that was of those other programs, but I must ask honestly if the same thing had happened to an Arkansas D1 school if the University of Arkansas would have lifted a finger.

The optimistic side of my brain tells me they would...but still...one has to wonder.

You know when it comes to something bad like that, I think schools will help each other out.

I think LSU would help UL out and vice versa.


I would assume so, but I know there are some in leadership roles at Arkansas who would discourage it. I think public pressure would sway them, but only grudgingly.

The beef ULL and LSU have is nothing compared to what Arkansas does to other in state programs.
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App State gave LSU a $50,000 check for Katrina relief the last time we played them
in football. Having a bus fire, particularly in baseball where you don't have a separate
equipment truck is tough, especially toward the end of the season.
Glad to see them help out.
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(05-26-2014 06:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-26-2014 06:50 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  
(05-26-2014 06:43 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-26-2014 06:39 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  Jackson State, the Cajuns first opponent in the Lafayette Regional, had to overcome alot of adversity just to be in a Regional.

On May 5th, Jackson State's bus caught on fire on their way to play Savannah St. Most of their baseball equipment along with personal items were lost in the blaze on the side of the interstate where the bus burnt along with explosions which left a shell of a bus.

Thank goodness nobody was injured.

Ole Miss and Mississippi St. were kind enough to give them new baseball equipment such as gloves, bats, etc.. Jackson St. overcame the adversity to win the SWAC tournament and the automatic bid to the Lafayette Regional.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-base...n-bus-fire

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/bd...-Crazy-May

You know...it hit me how nice that was of those other programs, but I must ask honestly if the same thing had happened to an Arkansas D1 school if the University of Arkansas would have lifted a finger.

The optimistic side of my brain tells me they would...but still...one has to wonder.

You know when it comes to something bad like that, I think schools will help each other out.

I think LSU would help UL out and vice versa.


I would assume so, but I know there are some in leadership roles at Arkansas who would discourage it. I think public pressure would sway them, but only grudgingly.

The beef ULL and LSU have is nothing compared to what Arkansas does to other in state programs.

Apparently you don't know the UL -LSU history, but I won't get into it here.

This about Jackson State and all they had to deal with late in the season and still come out on top in the SWAC and make post season play.
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(05-26-2014 07:22 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  
(05-26-2014 06:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-26-2014 06:50 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  
(05-26-2014 06:43 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-26-2014 06:39 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  Jackson State, the Cajuns first opponent in the Lafayette Regional, had to overcome alot of adversity just to be in a Regional.

On May 5th, Jackson State's bus caught on fire on their way to play Savannah St. Most of their baseball equipment along with personal items were lost in the blaze on the side of the interstate where the bus burnt along with explosions which left a shell of a bus.

Thank goodness nobody was injured.

Ole Miss and Mississippi St. were kind enough to give them new baseball equipment such as gloves, bats, etc.. Jackson St. overcame the adversity to win the SWAC tournament and the automatic bid to the Lafayette Regional.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-base...n-bus-fire

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/bd...-Crazy-May

You know...it hit me how nice that was of those other programs, but I must ask honestly if the same thing had happened to an Arkansas D1 school if the University of Arkansas would have lifted a finger.

The optimistic side of my brain tells me they would...but still...one has to wonder.

You know when it comes to something bad like that, I think schools will help each other out.

I think LSU would help UL out and vice versa.


I would assume so, but I know there are some in leadership roles at Arkansas who would discourage it. I think public pressure would sway them, but only grudgingly.

The beef ULL and LSU have is nothing compared to what Arkansas does to other in state programs.

Apparently you don't know the UL -LSU history, but I won't get into it here.

I'm very familar with it and UArk is worse.

1. They WILL play you. We play in no sports. They even pulled out of a baseball tournament (at UTA I think) one year because we would be in it.
2. When UALR was still in the TAAC we signed a 10 year contract with UALR. Year we would play at their basketball tournament, year 2 they would play in our tournament. Years 3-10 we'd play home/home. After year 1 we pissed UArk off and the system president told UALR to pull out of the tournament in Jonesboro. We had two other teams contracted and the contract required that we give each two games. We couldn't find a Division I replacement and end up losing a bundle of cash on the tournament.
3. The only difference in the name battle was we mustered the political clout to win on our own and the swing on that deal was the editor of the UA school newspaper at the time was from Jonesboro and the AState administration caught up with him on Christmas break, toured him around campus, let him take photos and then he wrote an editorial in support of the change that came out the day of the vote and AState supporters grabbed up a couple hundred copies and drove them to Little Rock in time to place on the desk of every legislator that day when the vote came up.
4. They used their clout to place Arkansas under some of the most restrictive limits on athletic spending in the country that resulted in four or five schools dropping athletics. UALR made their fund-raising deadline with a few weeks to spare to avoid ceasing athletics.
5. Until our recent increase in political clout we worked under a funding formula that gave AState the fewest dollars per student of any four year school in the state.
6. When Keith Lee the best basketball player in the state committed to AState they sent him a letter saying recruiting irregularities would cause AState to be put on probation (UArk law professor was president of the NCAA). We got busted and AState was found guilty of an assistant giving his parents a ride to a high school game he was scouting when their car wouldn't start, during a visit to campus he played pick-up basketball with some members of the team that was declared an illegal try-out and it was found to be improper that he had a summer job working for an AState alum even though it was through a program sponsored by his high school and the alum had no influence on him getting the job, and he was only paid minimum wage for hours actually worked. We got two years probation. He signed with Memphis instead and the NCAA came back and said you've been a good boy, probation is lifted early.
7. When we moved back to I-A newspaper and TV people in Little Rock were told if they "Over did it" reporting on AState they would find their access to coaches and the AD limited and a number of businesses were told that if they donated or sponsored AState they would find new seat assignments or lose contracts. One large Little Rock firm (HUGE MONEY) cut us off until UArk started moving games out of Little Rock. Even today, nearly half of the Red Wolf 500 members refuse to allow the school to list their donations for fear of reprisal against their businesses.
8. Just a couple years ago, every kid who was in UArk's student recruiting database (non-athletes) received a letter that opened by stating UArk was the only Division I program in the state.
9. Their recent marketing plan of a year ago was "One State, One Team".
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(05-27-2014 10:20 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(05-26-2014 07:22 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  
(05-26-2014 06:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-26-2014 06:50 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  
(05-26-2014 06:43 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  You know...it hit me how nice that was of those other programs, but I must ask honestly if the same thing had happened to an Arkansas D1 school if the University of Arkansas would have lifted a finger.

The optimistic side of my brain tells me they would...but still...one has to wonder.

You know when it comes to something bad like that, I think schools will help each other out.

I think LSU would help UL out and vice versa.


I would assume so, but I know there are some in leadership roles at Arkansas who would discourage it. I think public pressure would sway them, but only grudgingly.

The beef ULL and LSU have is nothing compared to what Arkansas does to other in state programs.

Apparently you don't know the UL -LSU history, but I won't get into it here.

I'm very familar with it and UArk is worse.

1. They WILL play you. We play in no sports. They even pulled out of a baseball tournament (at UTA I think) one year because we would be in it.
2. When UALR was still in the TAAC we signed a 10 year contract with UALR. Year we would play at their basketball tournament, year 2 they would play in our tournament. Years 3-10 we'd play home/home. After year 1 we pissed UArk off and the system president told UALR to pull out of the tournament in Jonesboro. We had two other teams contracted and the contract required that we give each two games. We couldn't find a Division I replacement and end up losing a bundle of cash on the tournament.
3. The only difference in the name battle was we mustered the political clout to win on our own and the swing on that deal was the editor of the UA school newspaper at the time was from Jonesboro and the AState administration caught up with him on Christmas break, toured him around campus, let him take photos and then he wrote an editorial in support of the change that came out the day of the vote and AState supporters grabbed up a couple hundred copies and drove them to Little Rock in time to place on the desk of every legislator that day when the vote came up.
4. They used their clout to place Arkansas under some of the most restrictive limits on athletic spending in the country that resulted in four or five schools dropping athletics. UALR made their fund-raising deadline with a few weeks to spare to avoid ceasing athletics.
5. Until our recent increase in political clout we worked under a funding formula that gave AState the fewest dollars per student of any four year school in the state.
6. When Keith Lee the best basketball player in the state committed to AState they sent him a letter saying recruiting irregularities would cause AState to be put on probation (UArk law professor was president of the NCAA). We got busted and AState was found guilty of an assistant giving his parents a ride to a high school game he was scouting when their car wouldn't start, during a visit to campus he played pick-up basketball with some members of the team that was declared an illegal try-out and it was found to be improper that he had a summer job working for an AState alum even though it was through a program sponsored by his high school and the alum had no influence on him getting the job, and he was only paid minimum wage for hours actually worked. We got two years probation. He signed with Memphis instead and the NCAA came back and said you've been a good boy, probation is lifted early.
7. When we moved back to I-A newspaper and TV people in Little Rock were told if they "Over did it" reporting on AState they would find their access to coaches and the AD limited and a number of businesses were told that if they donated or sponsored AState they would find new seat assignments or lose contracts. One large Little Rock firm (HUGE MONEY) cut us off until UArk started moving games out of Little Rock. Even today, nearly half of the Red Wolf 500 members refuse to allow the school to list their donations for fear of reprisal against their businesses.
8. Just a couple years ago, every kid who was in UArk's student recruiting database (non-athletes) received a letter that opened by stating UArk was the only Division I program in the state.
9. Their recent marketing plan of a year ago was "One State, One Team".

I think it's the same everywhere, especially in the South where the big money schools tries to keep the schools struggling just to have a football program down

I was on the other side when i went for my Graduate degrees at both LSU (which i lasted 1 semester because i couldn't stand it) and Ole Miss and every school in the State hated them because they got a large share of the State's money. Both Southern Miss and even Mississippi St. along with smaller schools in the State.

I can tell you this, both schools paid me really good to go to Graduate School.

The Boise State president says it perfectly on a post on this forum about the P-5 schools.

For years LSU wouldn't even think of playing us. They had nothing to gain and everything to lose. When Skip Bertman became AD is when LSU started playing us and other state schools on a 4yr rotation

As far as the name change, I won't get into it much because it's been beat to death, but if you are interested you can read all about it here; if you hadn't read it or are unfamiliar with what went down, it is worth reading how politics controlled everything and the Judge who made the ruling was an LSU Graduate.

http://www.raginpagin.com/louisiana/show...for-a-Name

I actually received a University of Louisiana degree but I was reissued my USL degree when the name was changed back.

I'm sure LSU is not happy with all the success UL has been having in ALL sports. You can see the change just around Lafayette. All these kids, even my nephew, who would wear their LSU shirts and hats are now wearing UL stuff. You couldn't walk in a store in Lafayette and not see LSU stuff all over, which was sickening but it's so nice to see it being replaced with UL stuff

The only Major sport that LSU can claim they are better than UL is football. I wish we were playing them this year but I don't think we play them again until 2016 when we'll probably have a new coach and will be rebuilding.

Here in Boise, they have high hopes for Coach Harsin. I hope the Cajuns whip them up here in Boise this year. The coaches will definitely be familiar with each other.
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What the power schools of the south have been too dumb to understand is this. By trying to create artificial barriers to competition they have created fan bases at these other schools who hate them, not because they get the publicity and the money but because they sucked off the government teat for years and then take a holy "athletics should pay its own way" stance now that they've "made it".

While we both can sit down and name schools in our respective states that have played along to get along those institutions don't have the passionate support of those of us not willing to play along to get along.

The administration at AState knows the rules backwards and frontwards and we do a lot of stuff without prior approval from the state higher ed board because we use the rulebook to our advantage. When we first switched to the president/chancellor model the foundation bought a house for the chancellor. When the president's office moved to Little Rock they no longer needed the house but the housing market was in the pits so they used it to sweeten the pot with Malzahn instead of selling it and as a foundation assest it didn't count against the compensation limit. Now that the market has recovered they expect to sell it for a tidy profit and will go to the president's discertionary account.

We've learned that there are a lot of people who can give $5k and the UArk AD won't give them the time of day and we've exploited that with over $30 million in upgrades underway without having launched a general capital campaign as yet.

I can now buy AState merchandise easily in Little Rock because people are embracing what we are doing and last night text a photo of a shirt I want for fathers day to my wife when a few years ago I had to travel to Jonesboro for anything like it.

Long-term, I think the bastards did us a favor.
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(05-26-2014 07:22 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  
(05-26-2014 06:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-26-2014 06:50 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  
(05-26-2014 06:43 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  You know...it hit me how nice that was of those other programs, but I must ask honestly if the same thing had happened to an Arkansas D1 school if the University of Arkansas would have lifted a finger.

The optimistic side of my brain tells me they would...but still...one has to wonder.

You know when it comes to something bad like that, I think schools will help each other out.

I think LSU would help UL out and vice versa.


I would assume so, but I know there are some in leadership roles at Arkansas who would discourage it. I think public pressure would sway them, but only grudgingly.

The beef ULL and LSU have is nothing compared to what Arkansas does to other in state programs.

Apparently you don't know the UL -LSU history, but I won't get into it here.

I'm very familar with it and UArk is worse.

1. They WILL play you. We play in no sports. They even pulled out of a baseball tournament (at UTA I think) one year because we would be in it.
2. When UALR was still in the TAAC we signed a 10 year contract with UALR. Year we would play at their basketball tournament, year 2 they would play in our tournament. Years 3-10 we'd play home/home. After year 1 we pissed UArk off and the system president told UALR to pull out of the tournament in Jonesboro. We had two other teams contracted and the contract required that we give each two games. We couldn't find a Division I replacement and end up losing a bundle of cash on the tournament.
3. The only difference in the name battle was we mustered the political clout to win on our own and the swing on that deal was the editor of the UA school newspaper at the time was from Jonesboro and the AState administration caught up with him on Christmas break, toured him around campus, let him take photos and then he wrote an editorial in support of the change that came out the day of the vote and AState supporters grabbed up a couple hundred copies and drove them to Little Rock in time to place on the desk of every legislator that day when the vote came up.
4. They used their clout to place Arkansas under some of the most restrictive limits on athletic spending in the country that resulted in four or five schools dropping athletics. UALR made their fund-raising deadline with a few weeks to spare to avoid ceasing athletics.
5. Until our recent increase in political clout we worked under a funding formula that gave AState the fewest dollars per student of any four year school in the state.
6. When Keith Lee the best basketball player in the state committed to AState they sent him a letter saying recruiting irregularities would cause AState to be put on probation (UArk law professor was president of the NCAA). We got busted and AState was found guilty of an assistant giving his parents a ride to a high school game he was scouting when their car wouldn't start, during a visit to campus he played pick-up basketball with some members of the team that was declared an illegal try-out and it was found to be improper that he had a summer job working for an AState alum even though it was through a program sponsored by his high school and the alum had no influence on him getting the job, and he was only paid minimum wage for hours actually worked. We got two years probation. He signed with Memphis instead and the NCAA came back and said you've been a good boy, probation is lifted early.
7. When we moved back to I-A newspaper and TV people in Little Rock were told if they "Over did it" reporting on AState they would find their access to coaches and the AD limited and a number of businesses were told that if they donated or sponsored AState they would find new seat assignments or lose contracts. One large Little Rock firm (HUGE MONEY) cut us off until UArk started moving games out of Little Rock. Even today, nearly half of the Red Wolf 500 members refuse to allow the school to list their donations for fear of reprisal against their businesses.
8. Just a couple years ago, every kid who was in UArk's student recruiting database (non-athletes) received a letter that opened by stating UArk was the only Division I program in the state.
9. Their recent marketing plan of a year ago was "One State, One Team".

I think it's the same everywhere, especially in the South where the big money schools tries to keep the schools struggling just to have a football program down

I was on the other side when i went for my Graduate degrees at both LSU (which i lasted 1 semester because i couldn't stand it) and Ole Miss and every school in the State hated them because they got a large share of the State's money. Both Southern Miss and even Mississippi St. along with smaller schools in the State.

I can tell you this, both schools paid me really good to go to Graduate School.

The Boise State president says it perfectly on a post on this forum about the P-5 schools.

For years LSU wouldn't even think of playing us. They had nothing to gain and everything to lose. When Skip Bertman became AD is when LSU started playing us and other state schools on a 4yr rotation

As far as the name change, I won't get into it much because it's been beat to death, but if you are interested you can read all about it here:

http://www.raginpagin.com/louisiana/show...for-a-Name

I actually received a University of Louisiana degree but I was reissued my USL degree when the name was changed back.

I'm sure LSU is not happy with all the success UL has been having in ALL sports. You can see the change just around Lafayette. All these kids, even my nephew, who would wear their LSU shirts and hats are now wearing UL stuff. You couldn't walk in a store in Lafayette and not see LSU stuff all over, it's so nice to see it being replaced with UL stuff
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(05-27-2014 02:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  What the power schools of the south have been too dumb to understand is this. By trying to create artificial barriers to competition they have created fan bases at these other schools who hate them, not because they get the publicity and the money but because they sucked off the government teat for years and then take a holy "athletics should pay its own way" stance now that they've "made it".

While we both can sit down and name schools in our respective states that have played along to get along those institutions don't have the passionate support of those of us not willing to play along to get along.

The administration at AState knows the rules backwards and frontwards and we do a lot of stuff without prior approval from the state higher ed board because we use the rulebook to our advantage. When we first switched to the president/chancellor model the foundation bought a house for the chancellor. When the president's office moved to Little Rock they no longer needed the house but the housing market was in the pits so they used it to sweeten the pot with Malzahn instead of selling it and as a foundation assest it didn't count against the compensation limit. Now that the market has recovered they expect to sell it for a tidy profit and will go to the president's discertionary account.

We've learned that there are a lot of people who can give $5k and the UArk AD won't give them the time of day and we've exploited that with over $30 million in upgrades underway without having launched a general capital campaign as yet.

I can now buy AState merchandise easily in Little Rock because people are embracing what we are doing and last night text a photo of a shirt I want for fathers day to my wife when a few years ago I had to travel to Jonesboro for anything like it.

Long-term, I think the bastards did us a favor.

It's because we are both having sucess in sports and people want to hop on the bandwagon.

Like I said in my earlier post that you couldn't walk in a store in Lafayette and not see it loaded with LSU shirts, hats, cups, etc. and this was in plain stores, not sporting goods stores and the UL stuff was tucked in a little corner, it would make me sick.

You would think you were in Baton Rouge, it was sickening. Even the kids in Lafayette, including my 16 yr old nephew, wearing nothing but LSU trash

It got to a point where people would boycott those stores. Then you started seeing in some store Windows, "we are supporters of UL athletics".

But since the Cajuns success, the stores have replaced the LSU trash will UL stuff right when you walk in a store. It's no longer tucked in a corner. Even the kids are wearing UL now. Having sucess has turned everything around.

People from Lafayette now go to our game instead of LSU. But alot of families down here have some that graduated from each school, so they have a license plate with half UL and the other half LSU which solves that problem.
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(05-27-2014 03:44 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  
(05-27-2014 02:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  What the power schools of the south have been too dumb to understand is this. By trying to create artificial barriers to competition they have created fan bases at these other schools who hate them, not because they get the publicity and the money but because they sucked off the government teat for years and then take a holy "athletics should pay its own way" stance now that they've "made it".

While we both can sit down and name schools in our respective states that have played along to get along those institutions don't have the passionate support of those of us not willing to play along to get along.

The administration at AState knows the rules backwards and frontwards and we do a lot of stuff without prior approval from the state higher ed board because we use the rulebook to our advantage. When we first switched to the president/chancellor model the foundation bought a house for the chancellor. When the president's office moved to Little Rock they no longer needed the house but the housing market was in the pits so they used it to sweeten the pot with Malzahn instead of selling it and as a foundation assest it didn't count against the compensation limit. Now that the market has recovered they expect to sell it for a tidy profit and will go to the president's discertionary account.

We've learned that there are a lot of people who can give $5k and the UArk AD won't give them the time of day and we've exploited that with over $30 million in upgrades underway without having launched a general capital campaign as yet.

I can now buy AState merchandise easily in Little Rock because people are embracing what we are doing and last night text a photo of a shirt I want for fathers day to my wife when a few years ago I had to travel to Jonesboro for anything like it.

Long-term, I think the bastards did us a favor.

It's because we are both having sucess in sports and people want to hop on the bandwagon.

Like I said in my earlier post that you couldn't walk in a store in Lafayette and not see it loaded with LSU shirts, hats, cups, etc. and this was in plain stores, not sporting goods stores and the UL stuff was tucked in a little corner, it would make me sick.

You would think you were in Baton Rouge, it was sickening. Even the kids in Lafayette, including my 16 yr old nephew, wearing nothing but LSU trash

It got to a point where people would boycott those stores. Then you started seeing in some store Windows, "we are supporters of UL athletics".

But since the Cajuns success, the stores have replaced the LSU trash will UL stuff right when you walk in a store. It's no longer tucked in a corner. Even the kids are wearing UL now. Having sucess has turned everything around.

People from Lafayette now go to our game instead of LSU. But alot of families down here have some that graduated from each school, so they have a license plate with half UL and the other half LSU which solves that problem.

Not in my house. My youngest graduated from lsu&a&mc@br, and I expect her to support her alma mater; but she knows better than to bring purple and puke crap into my house.
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In a lot of ways, ASU owes some of our major changes the last few years to the fact that Arkansas is so foolish with how they handle small money donors and average fans.

We've created our own small fan base out of that group, and combine it with a renewed push towards are alums. The result is a lot of new money pouring into the program, and increased attendance at home football games. The simple fact that we had two major Little Rock Television Stations actually pushing for our coaches show shows a lot of progress. In the past years, we would have to beg and plead to get someone to carry it.

Many TV stations have discovered there is enough of a market of ASU fans that it becomes smart to provide us with coverage. With one notable exception of a station who actually dumped its local sports cast in favor of a sports cast based entirely out of Fayetteville..we're seeing more Little Rock media trucks in Jonesboro by the day now.
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(05-27-2014 03:54 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  
(05-27-2014 03:44 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  
(05-27-2014 02:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  What the power schools of the south have been too dumb to understand is this. By trying to create artificial barriers to competition they have created fan bases at these other schools who hate them, not because they get the publicity and the money but because they sucked off the government teat for years and then take a holy "athletics should pay its own way" stance now that they've "made it".

While we both can sit down and name schools in our respective states that have played along to get along those institutions don't have the passionate support of those of us not willing to play along to get along.

The administration at AState knows the rules backwards and frontwards and we do a lot of stuff without prior approval from the state higher ed board because we use the rulebook to our advantage. When we first switched to the president/chancellor model the foundation bought a house for the chancellor. When the president's office moved to Little Rock they no longer needed the house but the housing market was in the pits so they used it to sweeten the pot with Malzahn instead of selling it and as a foundation assest it didn't count against the compensation limit. Now that the market has recovered they expect to sell it for a tidy profit and will go to the president's discertionary account.

We've learned that there are a lot of people who can give $5k and the UArk AD won't give them the time of day and we've exploited that with over $30 million in upgrades underway without having launched a general capital campaign as yet.

I can now buy AState merchandise easily in Little Rock because people are embracing what we are doing and last night text a photo of a shirt I want for fathers day to my wife when a few years ago I had to travel to Jonesboro for anything like it.

Long-term, I think the bastards did us a favor.

It's because we are both having sucess in sports and people want to hop on the bandwagon.

Like I said in my earlier post that you couldn't walk in a store in Lafayette and not see it loaded with LSU shirts, hats, cups, etc. and this was in plain stores, not sporting goods stores and the UL stuff was tucked in a little corner, it would make me sick.

You would think you were in Baton Rouge, it was sickening. Even the kids in Lafayette, including my 16 yr old nephew, wearing nothing but LSU trash

It got to a point where people would boycott those stores. Then you started seeing in some store Windows, "we are supporters of UL athletics".

But since the Cajuns success, the stores have replaced the LSU trash will UL stuff right when you walk in a store. It's no longer tucked in a corner. Even the kids are wearing UL now. Having sucess has turned everything around.

People from Lafayette now go to our game instead of LSU. But alot of families down here have some that graduated from each school, so they have a license plate with half UL and the other half LSU which solves that problem.

Not in my house. My youngest graduated from lsu&a&mc@br, and I expect her to support her alma mater; but she knows better than to bring purple and puke crap into my house.

Yea, my nephew also new not to wear any LSU stuff around me, but he grew out of that phase and is a pure UL fan.

He is a stud in both football and baseball. He goes to Teurlings and he was an awesome receiver on the JV team especially when you have this 6'5" Sophomore QB with a strong accurate arm throwing to you. They will both be Junior's this year and I promise UL will start watching Cole Kelly as a possible future recruitment for QB. If they don't, they're crazy.

My Nephew is a very good catcher in baseball. I'm pretty sure he will be recruited by UL in either sport. He already knows if he should go to LSU I will disown him along with his dad who played for UL.
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RE: Jackson State overcomes adversity just to make Lafayette Regional
(05-27-2014 03:54 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  
(05-27-2014 03:44 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  
(05-27-2014 02:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  What the power schools of the south have been too dumb to understand is this. By trying to create artificial barriers to competition they have created fan bases at these other schools who hate them, not because they get the publicity and the money but because they sucked off the government teat for years and then take a holy "athletics should pay its own way" stance now that they've "made it".

While we both can sit down and name schools in our respective states that have played along to get along those institutions don't have the passionate support of those of us not willing to play along to get along.

The administration at AState knows the rules backwards and frontwards and we do a lot of stuff without prior approval from the state higher ed board because we use the rulebook to our advantage. When we first switched to the president/chancellor model the foundation bought a house for the chancellor. When the president's office moved to Little Rock they no longer needed the house but the housing market was in the pits so they used it to sweeten the pot with Malzahn instead of selling it and as a foundation assest it didn't count against the compensation limit. Now that the market has recovered they expect to sell it for a tidy profit and will go to the president's discertionary account.

We've learned that there are a lot of people who can give $5k and the UArk AD won't give them the time of day and we've exploited that with over $30 million in upgrades underway without having launched a general capital campaign as yet.

I can now buy AState merchandise easily in Little Rock because people are embracing what we are doing and last night text a photo of a shirt I want for fathers day to my wife when a few years ago I had to travel to Jonesboro for anything like it.

Long-term, I think the bastards did us a favor.

It's because we are both having sucess in sports and people want to hop on the bandwagon.

Like I said in my earlier post that you couldn't walk in a store in Lafayette and not see it loaded with LSU shirts, hats, cups, etc. and this was in plain stores, not sporting goods stores and the UL stuff was tucked in a little corner, it would make me sick.

You would think you were in Baton Rouge, it was sickening. Even the kids in Lafayette, including my 16 yr old nephew, wearing nothing but LSU trash

It got to a point where people would boycott those stores. Then you started seeing in some store Windows, "we are supporters of UL athletics".

But since the Cajuns success, the stores have replaced the LSU trash will UL stuff right when you walk in a store. It's no longer tucked in a corner. Even the kids are wearing UL now. Having sucess has turned everything around.

People from Lafayette now go to our game instead of LSU. But alot of families down here have some that graduated from each school, so they have a license plate with half UL and the other half LSU which solves that problem.

Not in my house. My youngest graduated from lsu&a&mc@br, and I expect her to support her alma mater; but she knows better than to bring purple and puke crap into my house.

Yea, my nephew also new not to wear any LSU stuff around me, but he grew out of that phase and is a pure UL fan.

He is a stud in both football and baseball. He goes to Teurlings and he was an awesome receiver on the JV team especially when you have this 6'5" Sophomore QB with a strong arm throwing to you. They will both be Junior's this year and I promise UL will start watching Cole Kelly as a possible future recruitment for QB. If they don't, they're crazy.

My Nephew is a very good catcher in baseball. I'm pretty sure he will be recruited by UL in either sport. He already knows if he should go to LSU I will disown him along with his dad who played for UL.
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