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RE: Change with the Bahamas Bowl
(04-28-2014 01:31 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  Sounds like CUSA bought AAC slots only after AAC agreed to Cure Bowl. Overseas bowl games are a novel idea but they don't seem like they will last.

CUSA can have that money losing nightmare. It will go well with the Hawai'i Bowl. At least for the Hawai'i Bowl, everyone doesn't need to have a passport.
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RE: Change with the Bahamas Bowl
(04-28-2014 11:16 PM)panama Wrote:  
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(04-28-2014 10:36 PM)panama Wrote:  How many people realistically were going to attend a G5 bowl not in their city or within 3 hours driving? 5k total? 8K? The majority of the folks are going to be locals or your going to have a lot of empty seats. The reality is that it only affects the super fans. And oh yeah, white sand beaches, palm trees and crystal clear lagoons in 85 degree weather in late December is the worst.

Yes, but how many College Football Players currently have access to a passport?

If your team gets invited you will see 55 or whatever the number traveling teams roster is applications fast tracked for approval. Its almost as if people think that the people who came up with this bowl have not thought of these things. Heck I would think that if you are an offcial in the Athletic Department of a school in one of the two conferences tied into the game this December that you would start making arrangements from now just in case or at least by mid season if it looks like you might go bowling.

You can get a passport in 2 hours at a passport office. Its not that hard for the players. They'll just send someone with all the passport applications to Houston or Atlanta to get the passports.
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RE: Change with the Bahamas Bowl
(04-28-2014 11:04 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(04-28-2014 10:36 PM)panama Wrote:  How many people realistically were going to attend a G5 bowl not in their city or within 3 hours driving? 5k total? 8K? The majority of the folks are going to be locals or your going to have a lot of empty seats. The reality is that it only affects the super fans. And oh yeah, white sand beaches, palm trees and crystal clear lagoons in 85 degree weather in late December is the worst.

Yes, but how many College Football Players currently have access to a passport?

It's not difficult to get a passport. In fact, it's downright easy.

When a team gets invited to the bowl? the university will make sure every player, coach, trainer, cheerleader, and probably key donors have their passports in hand well before the game.
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(04-28-2014 11:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(04-28-2014 11:16 PM)panama Wrote:  
(04-28-2014 11:04 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(04-28-2014 10:36 PM)panama Wrote:  How many people realistically were going to attend a G5 bowl not in their city or within 3 hours driving? 5k total? 8K? The majority of the folks are going to be locals or your going to have a lot of empty seats. The reality is that it only affects the super fans. And oh yeah, white sand beaches, palm trees and crystal clear lagoons in 85 degree weather in late December is the worst.

Yes, but how many College Football Players currently have access to a passport?

If your team gets invited you will see 55 or whatever the number traveling teams roster is applications fast tracked for approval. Its almost as if people think that the people who came up with this bowl have not thought of these things. Heck I would think that if you are an offcial in the Athletic Department of a school in one of the two conferences tied into the game this December that you would start making arrangements from now just in case or at least by mid season if it looks like you might go bowling.

You can get a passport in 2 hours at a passport office. Its not that hard for the players. They'll just send someone with all the passport applications to Houston or Atlanta to get the passports.
Pretty sure there are used to handling large travel groups
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Provided all of these choir boys are eligible for a passport or allowed in said country of destination.

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What would you have to have done to NOT be eligible for a passport before your 22nd birthday and yet still be eligible to play on an FBS football team?

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(04-29-2014 06:26 AM)panama Wrote:  What would you have to have done to NOT be eligible for a passport before your 22nd birthday and yet still be eligible to play on an FBS football team?

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you could have done many things short of murder and still be able to find an fbs team that would play you if you had talent..an example or two comes to light just about every season..
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(04-28-2014 09:15 PM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  
(04-28-2014 09:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
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(04-28-2014 03:18 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I think its a crap idea.

Hawaii may suck to get to but you don't need passports for everyone in the traveling party to get them there.

I went earlier this year there and it required either a passport or an official birth certificate.

Went on a boat?

Yep! I also have a passport.

That's why you didn't need a passport. Closed loop cruises (start and end at the same port) are exempt. Officially the Bahamas doesn't guarantee you can get off the boat but if they don't let you off the boat they don't get your money.

So yeah you can work with a cruise line or charter and put the team on a boat in Florida, send the team over play get back on the boat and come back without a passport, not sure that ends up being the most time or cost-efficient method.
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(04-29-2014 06:26 AM)panama Wrote:  What would you have to have done to NOT be eligible for a passport before your 22nd birthday and yet still be eligible to play on an FBS football team?

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Nothing. The question is whether the other country allows entry. Canada for example considers DWI/DUI to be an excludable offense and you have to write ahead with details and an explanation to enter Canada.
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RE: Change with the Bahamas Bowl
(04-28-2014 11:36 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(04-28-2014 11:04 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(04-28-2014 10:36 PM)panama Wrote:  How many people realistically were going to attend a G5 bowl not in their city or within 3 hours driving? 5k total? 8K? The majority of the folks are going to be locals or your going to have a lot of empty seats. The reality is that it only affects the super fans. And oh yeah, white sand beaches, palm trees and crystal clear lagoons in 85 degree weather in late December is the worst.

Yes, but how many College Football Players currently have access to a passport?

It's not difficult to get a passport. In fact, it's downright easy.

When a team gets invited to the bowl? the university will make sure every player, coach, trainer, cheerleader, and probably key donors have their passports in hand well before the game.

Expedited service costs an extra $60 per. There are 28 locations for expedited service. Not sure who did what to make it happen but one of those is in Hot Springs, AR
http://travel.state.gov/content/passport...ncies.html
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(04-29-2014 07:24 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 06:26 AM)panama Wrote:  What would you have to have done to NOT be eligible for a passport before your 22nd birthday and yet still be eligible to play on an FBS football team?

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Nothing. The question is whether the other country allows entry. Canada for example considers DWI/DUI to be an excludable offense and you have to write ahead with details and an explanation to enter Canada.

8 schools send MBB teams to Battle 4 Atlantis annually and I don't recall entry ever being an issue. A lot of folks poo pooing on this bowl but as I said last year, present your wife with a list of possible bowl cities and see which one jumps out. LOL. It will do fine and there will be plenty of footage shown in game of the teams' week of playing on the beach and enjoying the local culture.
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(04-28-2014 02:46 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  
(04-28-2014 02:38 PM)panama Wrote:  
(04-28-2014 01:54 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  I don't like that bowl anyway. Attendance will blow.

So does the Pro Bowl's and half of bowl games.

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That's why they play them. Sucks we are out of the rotation. I would have gone.

Great bowl for the players and fans that attend. Flights are usually cheap to the Bahamas as well...

Would have been cool if this bowl was sponsored by Carnival Cruise Lines or Royal Carribbean...and if they offered a cruise package that was part of it. I'm pretty sure you don't need passports when visiting a country on a cruise (though having passports are recommended) - but that might depend on on the countries in your ports of call.
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(04-29-2014 07:22 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-28-2014 09:15 PM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  
(04-28-2014 09:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-28-2014 09:09 PM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  
(04-28-2014 03:18 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I think its a crap idea.

Hawaii may suck to get to but you don't need passports for everyone in the traveling party to get them there.

I went earlier this year there and it required either a passport or an official birth certificate.

Went on a boat?

Yep! I also have a passport.

That's why you didn't need a passport. Closed loop cruises (start and end at the same port) are exempt. Officially the Bahamas doesn't guarantee you can get off the boat but if they don't let you off the boat they don't get your money.

So yeah you can work with a cruise line or charter and put the team on a boat in Florida, send the team over play get back on the boat and come back without a passport, not sure that ends up being the most time or cost-efficient method.

I've only traveled on a passport when flying but never needed it when driving or boating, so I don't know for sure. But I thought it was all rather informal with organized groups. Isn't that you just need a birth certificate to get back into the States but its up to the country of entry on whether they want to let you in with whatever documentation they can get away with. I would imagine the Bahamas would be like this with these kids - charter in, pretend like the university is handling all the customs, then bus them to the hotel.
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Shoot I use my passport when flying domestic. Seems to make playing with TSA a little easier.
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Again, how are the 8 Battle 4 Atlantis schools handled? And this is Bahamas, a tourist destination that wants your money. You're likely to have more trouble getting back in the U.S. than getting into the Bahamas.
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(04-29-2014 09:09 AM)panama Wrote:  Again, how are the 8 Battle 4 Atlantis schools handled? And this is Bahamas, a tourist destination that wants your money. You're likely to have more trouble getting back in the U.S. than getting into the Bahamas.

The schools going there for the basketball tournament have at least six months advance notice and a traveling party of around 20-25 to deal with.

The schools going there for a bowl will have 3 to 6 weeks notice and a traveling party of about 150.

Absolutely the same thing.
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(04-29-2014 09:23 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:09 AM)panama Wrote:  Again, how are the 8 Battle 4 Atlantis schools handled? And this is Bahamas, a tourist destination that wants your money. You're likely to have more trouble getting back in the U.S. than getting into the Bahamas.

The schools going there for the basketball tournament have at least six months advance notice and a traveling party of around 20-25 to deal with.

The schools going there for a bowl will have 3 to 6 weeks notice and a traveling party of about 150.

Absolutely the same thing.

Ok, you got me.It's impossible. It cant be done. Call the sponsors and cancel it.
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(04-29-2014 09:29 AM)panama Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:23 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:09 AM)panama Wrote:  Again, how are the 8 Battle 4 Atlantis schools handled? And this is Bahamas, a tourist destination that wants your money. You're likely to have more trouble getting back in the U.S. than getting into the Bahamas.

The schools going there for the basketball tournament have at least six months advance notice and a traveling party of around 20-25 to deal with.

The schools going there for a bowl will have 3 to 6 weeks notice and a traveling party of about 150.

Absolutely the same thing.

Ok, you got me.It's impossible. It cant be done. Call the sponsors and cancel it.

Jesus. Why bother pointing out a real logistics problems.

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(04-29-2014 09:36 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:29 AM)panama Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:23 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:09 AM)panama Wrote:  Again, how are the 8 Battle 4 Atlantis schools handled? And this is Bahamas, a tourist destination that wants your money. You're likely to have more trouble getting back in the U.S. than getting into the Bahamas.

The schools going there for the basketball tournament have at least six months advance notice and a traveling party of around 20-25 to deal with.

The schools going there for a bowl will have 3 to 6 weeks notice and a traveling party of about 150.

Absolutely the same thing.

Ok, you got me.It's impossible. It cant be done. Call the sponsors and cancel it.

Jesus. Why bother pointing out a real logistics problems.

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They arent real logistic problems. They are imagined logistic problems. If drunken college students can make it there and back easily weekly, I am sure the government of the Bahamas will make sure that two American college football teams make it there and back with zero inconvenience.
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(04-29-2014 10:20 AM)panama Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:36 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:29 AM)panama Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:23 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-29-2014 09:09 AM)panama Wrote:  Again, how are the 8 Battle 4 Atlantis schools handled? And this is Bahamas, a tourist destination that wants your money. You're likely to have more trouble getting back in the U.S. than getting into the Bahamas.

The schools going there for the basketball tournament have at least six months advance notice and a traveling party of around 20-25 to deal with.

The schools going there for a bowl will have 3 to 6 weeks notice and a traveling party of about 150.

Absolutely the same thing.

Ok, you got me.It's impossible. It cant be done. Call the sponsors and cancel it.

Jesus. Why bother pointing out a real logistics problems.

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Yes because everyone going Onoz and OMG ever since this bowl was announced isnt drama. 07-coffee3

They arent real logistic problems. They are imagined logistic problems. If drunken college students can make it there and back easily weekly, I am sure the government of the Bahamas will make sure that two American college football teams make it there and back with zero inconvenience.

You've obviously got great experience dealing with 100+ college kids, lining up all the needed official documentation and submitting it and getting the whole thing done in a matter of weeks

I never said it couldn't be done. I said it was a hassle that wasn't worth it and you went jerk in response.
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