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RE: The Sun Belt Final 4
(04-18-2014 12:57 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 12:47 PM)runamuck Wrote:  
(04-17-2014 07:37 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  That actually makes me feel pretty excited. Most sources said it was JMU and MoSt ahead of Liberty, so I would think the order now is Liberty, EKU, Jacksonville St.

not me. those are all regional schools nobody ever heard of..will just lower the image of the conference in the eyes of the typical sports fan out there. I was hoping for nmsu all in and maybe mostate...jmu was not going to be that great of an add, but the least bad of the rest..at this point I would favor not adding any just to be adding.

Honest question. Do you think anyone 30 to 50 miles east or west of Dallas knew who UTA was?

Same could be asked about a lot of schools. I'm from Austin, TX and I didn't even know TX State had a FB team till they went FBS. I'm sure I was just overlooking it because in Texas UT, A&M and Tech are king. I'm not saying anything bad about TX State I just think this issue is more wide spead than people believe.

The way I found out they had a FB team was because a DLC for the NCAA football game was released after they moved up. FCS teams aren't included unless you build or download someone else's build off EA games.
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(04-18-2014 12:47 PM)runamuck Wrote:  
(04-17-2014 07:37 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  That actually makes me feel pretty excited. Most sources said it was JMU and MoSt ahead of Liberty, so I would think the order now is Liberty, EKU, Jacksonville St.

not me. those are all regional schools nobody ever heard of..will just lower the image of the conference in the eyes of the typical sports fan out there. I was hoping for nmsu all in and maybe mostate...jmu was not going to be that great of an add, but the least bad of the rest..at this point I would favor not adding any just to be adding.

What do you expect. How many on this board had ever hear of UTA before they were invited to join the conference.......I had not.
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(04-18-2014 01:11 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 12:47 PM)runamuck Wrote:  
(04-17-2014 07:37 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  That actually makes me feel pretty excited. Most sources said it was JMU and MoSt ahead of Liberty, so I would think the order now is Liberty, EKU, Jacksonville St.

not me. those are all regional schools nobody ever heard of..will just lower the image of the conference in the eyes of the typical sports fan out there. I was hoping for nmsu all in and maybe mostate...jmu was not going to be that great of an add, but the least bad of the rest..at this point I would favor not adding any just to be adding.

What do you expect. How many on this board had ever hear of UTA before they were invited to join the conference.......I had not.

Back in 2006-2009 when Troy was giving BCS teams scares left and right I remember going on away games and fans in places like walmart would always ask me, "Troy, that's in New York isn't it?"
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(04-18-2014 05:05 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 03:11 AM)David Krysakowski Wrote:  How about Central Arkansas?

AState would never support Central Arkansas, and I don't blame them. Central Arkansas would fit nicely into the footprint of the western division though.

UCA would have to figure out how to expand their football stadium, remodel their basketball arena completely, and spruce up their baseball field. They cant rebuild any of those because the campus is currently so landlocked that the University had to buy out apartment complexes in town to provide enough student housing.

Throw in the fact that UCA is still overcoming a major scandal within the office of the school president that landed him with several felony charges, and the fact that their own faculty senate actually voted to request the athletic department move back to D2...

UCA right now looks like an FCS Lifer. That wont change unless they can make all those changes above, and figure out how to bring fans to their football games, because they have a hard enough time filling a 9K seat stadium.
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RE: The Sun Belt Final 4
(04-18-2014 01:15 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 01:11 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 12:47 PM)runamuck Wrote:  
(04-17-2014 07:37 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  That actually makes me feel pretty excited. Most sources said it was JMU and MoSt ahead of Liberty, so I would think the order now is Liberty, EKU, Jacksonville St.

not me. those are all regional schools nobody ever heard of..will just lower the image of the conference in the eyes of the typical sports fan out there. I was hoping for nmsu all in and maybe mostate...jmu was not going to be that great of an add, but the least bad of the rest..at this point I would favor not adding any just to be adding.

What do you expect. How many on this board had ever hear of UTA before they were invited to join the conference.......I had not.

Back in 2006-2009 when Troy was giving BCS teams scares left and right I remember going on away games and fans in places like walmart would always ask me, "Troy, that's in New York isn't it?"

ASU used to constantly get confused with an FCS school by other teams fans. Happened for years. Heck, before the opening game of the 2011 season, SBNation's Blog that covers Illinois actually called us an FCS school, and when they got called on it, wrote a very ugly retraction meant to demean us even more.

I haven't seen anyone confuse us with FCS since that year though.
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RE: The Sun Belt Final 4
(04-18-2014 01:15 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 01:11 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 12:47 PM)runamuck Wrote:  
(04-17-2014 07:37 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  That actually makes me feel pretty excited. Most sources said it was JMU and MoSt ahead of Liberty, so I would think the order now is Liberty, EKU, Jacksonville St.

not me. those are all regional schools nobody ever heard of..will just lower the image of the conference in the eyes of the typical sports fan out there. I was hoping for nmsu all in and maybe mostate...jmu was not going to be that great of an add, but the least bad of the rest..at this point I would favor not adding any just to be adding.

What do you expect. How many on this board had ever hear of UTA before they were invited to join the conference.......I had not.

Back in 2006-2009 when Troy was giving BCS teams scares left and right I remember going on away games and fans in places like walmart would always ask me, "Troy, that's in New York isn't it?"

just sayin something state sounds better to me than one of the directional schools..hence swtsu wanted to become texas state. the poster from austin, if he really is, doesnt get out much if he doesnt know anything about texas state football..only being down the interstate a few miles for about the last 100 years..
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Liberty regional? As the largest Christian affiliated school in the world, it is a destination for many across the US. National tv network...national ad campaign...national champions and even an NCAA national record and so forth.
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(04-18-2014 01:27 PM)runamuck Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 01:15 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 01:11 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 12:47 PM)runamuck Wrote:  
(04-17-2014 07:37 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  That actually makes me feel pretty excited. Most sources said it was JMU and MoSt ahead of Liberty, so I would think the order now is Liberty, EKU, Jacksonville St.

not me. those are all regional schools nobody ever heard of..will just lower the image of the conference in the eyes of the typical sports fan out there. I was hoping for nmsu all in and maybe mostate...jmu was not going to be that great of an add, but the least bad of the rest..at this point I would favor not adding any just to be adding.

What do you expect. How many on this board had ever hear of UTA before they were invited to join the conference.......I had not.

Back in 2006-2009 when Troy was giving BCS teams scares left and right I remember going on away games and fans in places like walmart would always ask me, "Troy, that's in New York isn't it?"

just sayin something state sounds better to me than one of the directional schools..hence swtsu wanted to become texas state. the poster from austin, if he really is, doesnt get out much if he doesnt know anything about texas state football..only being down the interstate a few miles for about the last 100 years..

Austin's fun factor trumps San Marcos by a HUGE factor. I've never had a reason to go down I-35 to San Marcos unless I was headed toward San Antiono.
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(04-18-2014 01:29 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Liberty regional? As the largest Christian affiliated school in the world, it is a destination for many across the US. National tv network...national ad campaign...national champions and even an NCAA national record and so forth.

absolutely..I doubt if many folks think of liberty when byu or baylor or smu or tcu are brought up in discussion..
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(04-18-2014 01:41 PM)runamuck Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 01:29 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Liberty regional? As the largest Christian affiliated school in the world, it is a destination for many across the US. National tv network...national ad campaign...national champions and even an NCAA national record and so forth.

absolutely..I doubt if many folks think of liberty when byu or baylor or smu or tcu are brought up in discussion..

LU would be considered regional just like most FCS teams. It takes an FBS move and sometime to get known on a national level.
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(04-18-2014 12:03 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 10:42 AM)LexColonel Wrote:  
(04-17-2014 10:24 PM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  I've written this a couple of times and I don't want to bore any of you, but EKU has some real hurdles to overcome. First is trying to get funding/bonding approval from Frankfort. This won't be easy and possibly not possible at all. KY does things a little different and the lawmakers decide funding for all KY schools, not just monies given, but also if they allow bonding. So say EKU wanted to upgrade their football stadium and was going to pay for it by borrowing the money and then making payments using the increased revenue from the suites and ticket sales. Most universities can move on their own, but in KY Frankfort gets involved and things can get ugly rather quickly. UK is only 20 miles from Richmond and if UK doesn't want it to happen they have some pull in Frankfort.

EKU needs to hire around 20 athletic positions. These are not $10 an hour type jobs. Having to field two new female teams with full rides, plus the increase of the 20 or more scholarships on the football side. If you watch the youtube video of EKU's new president he even admits that some of these things are long term goals.

I like EKU. It's a good school and does a great job of educating most kids in Central KY, but they don't be ready for years and years. One other thing, most people in the area are diehard UK fans. Lexington is the major tv market and EKU is barely a blimp on the sports coverage. EKU would have to always play around the schedule of UK if they expected large turnouts.
Yes, you have written this a couple of times as have a few others. I am not going to spend any more time going line by line refuting some of these lame arguments. We have all heard, debated it ad nauseum.
I believe EKU officials are intelligent enough to know the obstacles and tackle them head on, as matter of fact that's what they are doing. Fans on a message board with their own agenda, bias and opinions really have no clue regarding EKU and their potential or ability to get this done. It's just that, an opinion.
You want Liberty to move to FBS through the Sun Belt. We get it. Argue their merits please and leave EKU out of your campaign. I have not seen one EKU fan on here, including myself, make any negative post about Liberty, and there have been plenty on here. We have not used innuendos and personal opinions regarding LU to bolster our case.


First off you're not "bolstering your case" here this is a message board. No one from the SBC is ever going to make a decision on anything from reading this board.

Second, what he said has a lot of truth in it...not opinions but TRUTHS. EVERY building on the EKU campus is a STATE building...own by the state of KY and will need their approval before any bonds are sold.

Third you have yet to refute anything only to give your opinion that this new president is smarter than us good ole KY boys that seen the system and how it works for a number of years. I have no doubt he's smarter than I am but still doesn't change the fact KY is like it is and most likely always be like that. There are people on your own message board basically saying the same thing.

Yes the post you replied to is based on opinion but it's a opinion most people in KY would probably share. But at this point like ARKSTFAN and even myself pointed out EKU doesn't have to have all the upgrade funding up front. Shoot you don't even need to go full upscale on a upgrade like Western did. Spend your 10 or 15 million if the state OK the bond sale on phase 1 of a upgrade and try to get the other done over the years.

What you will need is 2 to 3 million to pay for scholarships and pay increases to your coaches. No putting that off and it's there if the state will let you do it...most likely they will. Put a $100 per semester fee on the students and you get the needed 3 million. With half of it in hand come middle Aug. Like you said your president knows this.

The needed building of the EKU campus (just like Western 15 years ago) is another matter but that probably won't stop you from getting into the SBC. Cash or building poor or not EKU is starting to build some steam in this movement. Especially with the baggage of LU.
You know I would bet that I have lived longer in the state Of KY than you. Never have lived anywhere else. I was at Western the day they dedicated the stadium in 1968 you play in now. I have been to games there more times than I can remember. You or the other poster can't tell me anything I don't already know about how things are ran in this state. I also know that western is in the same state as EKU and operates under the same rules. I have seen where western once was (no better shape than we were), so the pretending that you were somehow something other than a sister institution of EKU's, is ridiculous.
Your opinion or mine isn't worth much in the scheme of things concerning EKU and the SB or any other conference for that matter. But, every time , EVERY TIME, EKU is mentioned in a move someone from western ( or Liberty, or someone else who knows little or nothing about EKU) gets on here "preaching" about what we cannot do. I could care less about what you, wkuperson, think. What's your purpose in this discussion? WHY do you care? Never mind, I know WHY you care.
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RE: The Sun Belt Final 4
It's very simple eku is nowhere near ready
And will probably be another low budget
Attempt at FBS football in a small no market
Town in the shadow of the states flagship
School. But don't get all bent out of
Shape. Nothing what is posted on these
Boards matter so pimp all you want. I
Have no dog in this fight as my school
Is in the AAC not where we want to
Be either.
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RE: The Sun Belt Final 4
Has anyone here ever looked in a mirror?
The SB is a group of unknown underappreciated universities as are the candidates for membership.
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RE: The Sun Belt Final 4
(04-18-2014 02:12 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 12:03 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 10:42 AM)LexColonel Wrote:  
(04-17-2014 10:24 PM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  I've written this a couple of times and I don't want to bore any of you, but EKU has some real hurdles to overcome. First is trying to get funding/bonding approval from Frankfort. This won't be easy and possibly not possible at all. KY does things a little different and the lawmakers decide funding for all KY schools, not just monies given, but also if they allow bonding. So say EKU wanted to upgrade their football stadium and was going to pay for it by borrowing the money and then making payments using the increased revenue from the suites and ticket sales. Most universities can move on their own, but in KY Frankfort gets involved and things can get ugly rather quickly. UK is only 20 miles from Richmond and if UK doesn't want it to happen they have some pull in Frankfort.

EKU needs to hire around 20 athletic positions. These are not $10 an hour type jobs. Having to field two new female teams with full rides, plus the increase of the 20 or more scholarships on the football side. If you watch the youtube video of EKU's new president he even admits that some of these things are long term goals.

I like EKU. It's a good school and does a great job of educating most kids in Central KY, but they don't be ready for years and years. One other thing, most people in the area are diehard UK fans. Lexington is the major tv market and EKU is barely a blimp on the sports coverage. EKU would have to always play around the schedule of UK if they expected large turnouts.
Yes, you have written this a couple of times as have a few others. I am not going to spend any more time going line by line refuting some of these lame arguments. We have all heard, debated it ad nauseum.
I believe EKU officials are intelligent enough to know the obstacles and tackle them head on, as matter of fact that's what they are doing. Fans on a message board with their own agenda, bias and opinions really have no clue regarding EKU and their potential or ability to get this done. It's just that, an opinion.
You want Liberty to move to FBS through the Sun Belt. We get it. Argue their merits please and leave EKU out of your campaign. I have not seen one EKU fan on here, including myself, make any negative post about Liberty, and there have been plenty on here. We have not used innuendos and personal opinions regarding LU to bolster our case.


First off you're not "bolstering your case" here this is a message board. No one from the SBC is ever going to make a decision on anything from reading this board.

Second, what he said has a lot of truth in it...not opinions but TRUTHS. EVERY building on the EKU campus is a STATE building...own by the state of KY and will need their approval before any bonds are sold.

Third you have yet to refute anything only to give your opinion that this new president is smarter than us good ole KY boys that seen the system and how it works for a number of years. I have no doubt he's smarter than I am but still doesn't change the fact KY is like it is and most likely always be like that. There are people on your own message board basically saying the same thing.

Yes the post you replied to is based on opinion but it's a opinion most people in KY would probably share. But at this point like ARKSTFAN and even myself pointed out EKU doesn't have to have all the upgrade funding up front. Shoot you don't even need to go full upscale on a upgrade like Western did. Spend your 10 or 15 million if the state OK the bond sale on phase 1 of a upgrade and try to get the other done over the years.

What you will need is 2 to 3 million to pay for scholarships and pay increases to your coaches. No putting that off and it's there if the state will let you do it...most likely they will. Put a $100 per semester fee on the students and you get the needed 3 million. With half of it in hand come middle Aug. Like you said your president knows this.

The needed building of the EKU campus (just like Western 15 years ago) is another matter but that probably won't stop you from getting into the SBC. Cash or building poor or not EKU is starting to build some steam in this movement. Especially with the baggage of LU.
You know I would bet that I have lived longer in the state Of KY than you. Never have lived anywhere else. I was at Western the day they dedicated the stadium in 1968 you play in now. I have been to games there more times than I can remember. You or the other poster can't tell me anything I don't already know about how things are ran in this state. I also know that western is in the same state as EKU and operates under the same rules. I have seen where western once was (no better shape than we were), so the pretending that you were somehow something other than a sister institution of EKU's, is ridiculous.
Your opinion or mine isn't worth much in the scheme of things concerning EKU and the SB or any other conference for that matter. But, every time , EVERY TIME, EKU is mentioned in a move someone from western ( or Liberty, or someone else who knows little or nothing about EKU) gets on here "preaching" about what we cannot do. I could care less about what you, wkuperson, think. What's your purpose in this discussion? WHY do you care? Never mind, I know WHY you care.


100 people could read my post on this subject and your reply and I bet most of them will say...

what the hell! is he talking about. No not the post I wrote but your reply. Why is that, because I basically agree with you in everyone of them, and not once have I said anything in one of them to make anyone (other than you) to think, "big brother-little brother" .

Now step back from your complex and really see what I wrote.

1. EKU is where WKU was 15 years ago as far as the two campus go. EKU needs major upgrades to a lot of the campus...just like Western did. Western hired a president (15 years ago) to do the same things Eastern is trying to get done today. Western didn't do it over night ...it took 10+ years to get most of it done. And there's still work to be done.

Now tell me where I'm wrong or saying anything negative about Eastern.

2. Western could not depend on the state for funding and had to get creative to get most of it. As a matter of fact Western took the led in thinking outside the box in getting all the dorms upgraded. Now uk and many other schools are using that same model. Western had to go to the state 3 or 4 times and sell them on going into partnership with BG to get 30+ million in bonds sold to help on part of the upgrade. (I have a 100+ page pdf file with the model we gave to the state showing how this money was to be paid back...so far Western had more than made what was projected)

No where have I said Eastern can't do the same...I just pointed out what Western had to go through

Now you tell me something...from someone who lived in KY their whole life (I have also..54 years) how many budget cuts on state funding do you think Eastern had in the last 8 years?

How many times has Eastern asked the state for funding to upgrade your stadium (small needed upgrades) and it was cut from the budget... 2, 3, 5 ?

Finally no where did I say Eastern couldn't do this. What I said if you do get the invite before all the funding or work is done...

the upgrades will most likely not be unscaled like it would 5 years from now if you waited/created the funding before the jump...

there are too many other expenses that will take place.


A far as why am I making comments on this, well till July my school is at least a member of the SBC. Now the question is why are you so hell bent on being on the SBC board pimping your school to fans?
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RE: The Sun Belt Final 4
(04-18-2014 02:31 PM)David Krumudgen Wrote:  It's very simple eku is nowhere near ready
And will probably be another low budget
Attempt at FBS football in a small no market
Town in the shadow of the states flagship
School. But don't get all bent out of
Shape. Nothing what is posted on these
Boards matter so pimp all you want. I
Have no dog in this fight as my school
Is in the AAC not where we want to
Be either.

You're right you have no dog in this fight.
Few discussions take place on a message board it seems. For some it's only a place to hide behind an anonymous name, bolster one's ego, pound their chest and shout "my dog's bigger than yours", or just jump in with their "two cents"' even when they "have no dog in this fight".
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(04-18-2014 02:12 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 12:03 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(04-18-2014 10:42 AM)LexColonel Wrote:  
(04-17-2014 10:24 PM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  I've written this a couple of times and I don't want to bore any of you, but EKU has some real hurdles to overcome. First is trying to get funding/bonding approval from Frankfort. This won't be easy and possibly not possible at all. KY does things a little different and the lawmakers decide funding for all KY schools, not just monies given, but also if they allow bonding. So say EKU wanted to upgrade their football stadium and was going to pay for it by borrowing the money and then making payments using the increased revenue from the suites and ticket sales. Most universities can move on their own, but in KY Frankfort gets involved and things can get ugly rather quickly. UK is only 20 miles from Richmond and if UK doesn't want it to happen they have some pull in Frankfort.

EKU needs to hire around 20 athletic positions. These are not $10 an hour type jobs. Having to field two new female teams with full rides, plus the increase of the 20 or more scholarships on the football side. If you watch the youtube video of EKU's new president he even admits that some of these things are long term goals.

I like EKU. It's a good school and does a great job of educating most kids in Central KY, but they don't be ready for years and years. One other thing, most people in the area are diehard UK fans. Lexington is the major tv market and EKU is barely a blimp on the sports coverage. EKU would have to always play around the schedule of UK if they expected large turnouts.
Yes, you have written this a couple of times as have a few others. I am not going to spend any more time going line by line refuting some of these lame arguments. We have all heard, debated it ad nauseum.
I believe EKU officials are intelligent enough to know the obstacles and tackle them head on, as matter of fact that's what they are doing. Fans on a message board with their own agenda, bias and opinions really have no clue regarding EKU and their potential or ability to get this done. It's just that, an opinion.
You want Liberty to move to FBS through the Sun Belt. We get it. Argue their merits please and leave EKU out of your campaign. I have not seen one EKU fan on here, including myself, make any negative post about Liberty, and there have been plenty on here. We have not used innuendos and personal opinions regarding LU to bolster our case.


First off you're not "bolstering your case" here this is a message board. No one from the SBC is ever going to make a decision on anything from reading this board.

Second, what he said has a lot of truth in it...not opinions but TRUTHS. EVERY building on the EKU campus is a STATE building...own by the state of KY and will need their approval before any bonds are sold.

Third you have yet to refute anything only to give your opinion that this new president is smarter than us good ole KY boys that seen the system and how it works for a number of years. I have no doubt he's smarter than I am but still doesn't change the fact KY is like it is and most likely always be like that. There are people on your own message board basically saying the same thing.

Yes the post you replied to is based on opinion but it's a opinion most people in KY would probably share. But at this point like ARKSTFAN and even myself pointed out EKU doesn't have to have all the upgrade funding up front. Shoot you don't even need to go full upscale on a upgrade like Western did. Spend your 10 or 15 million if the state OK the bond sale on phase 1 of a upgrade and try to get the other done over the years.

What you will need is 2 to 3 million to pay for scholarships and pay increases to your coaches. No putting that off and it's there if the state will let you do it...most likely they will. Put a $100 per semester fee on the students and you get the needed 3 million. With half of it in hand come middle Aug. Like you said your president knows this.

The needed building of the EKU campus (just like Western 15 years ago) is another matter but that probably won't stop you from getting into the SBC. Cash or building poor or not EKU is starting to build some steam in this movement. Especially with the baggage of LU.
You know I would bet that I have lived longer in the state Of KY than you. Never have lived anywhere else. I was at Western the day they dedicated the stadium in 1968 you play in now. I have been to games there more times than I can remember. You or the other poster can't tell me anything I don't already know about how things are ran in this state. I also know that western is in the same state as EKU and operates under the same rules. I have seen where western once was (no better shape than we were), so the pretending that you were somehow something other than a sister institution of EKU's, is ridiculous.
Your opinion or mine isn't worth much in the scheme of things concerning EKU and the SB or any other conference for that matter. But, every time , EVERY TIME, EKU is mentioned in a move someone from western ( or Liberty, or someone else who knows little or nothing about EKU) gets on here "preaching" about what we cannot do. I could care less about what you, wkuperson, think. What's your purpose in this discussion? WHY do you care? Never mind, I know WHY you care.

Some of the arguements from the folks not from EKU have already been answered. EKU got the bond authority already for $15 million in the just completed legislative session. The administration have already factored in the costs of more coaching and administrative sports staff, more scholarships for both football and women's sports, etc. and has briefed the BOR, the Athletics Forum and now the Tuition Forum. The proposal for the student athletic fee to help fund this has been made (first time fee as EKU does not have one).

I'm thinking we are closer than people think because the administration and the board has put this on a fast track. I honestly beleive that if EKU was not planning on moving up, we would not have proposed the student athletic fee. The two pieces I think we are missing at the moment are the plans for the football stadium and the private funding to supplement the bond authority.
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(04-18-2014 02:48 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Has anyone here ever looked in a mirror?
The SB is a group of unknown underappreciated universities as are the candidates for membership.

And your purpose over on this board other than to flame, is:_______?
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EKUSteve like you, I think it's a lot closer than most people think. Presidents (like EKU's did) of a school don't go on a sports message board to explain his position if he didn't think there was a good possibility of it happening. My whole point is...

without all the funding in place it's probably going to be harder to be as competitive in football (not so much basketball) than the move ups that had a plan in place with most of the funding before doing it..

I don't think there would be any question at least not to me EKU would be the next SBC member if your president was hired two years ago.
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Kennesaw State!
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(04-18-2014 03:15 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  EKUSteve like you, I think it's a lot closer than most people think. Presidents (like EKU's did) of a school don't go on a sports message board to explain his position if he didn't think there was a good possibility of it happening. My whole point is...

without all the funding in place it's probably going to be harder to be as competitive in football (not so much basketball) than the move ups that had a plan in place with most of the funding before doing it..

I don't think there would be any question at least not to me EKU would be the next SBC member if your president was hired two years ago.

Agree. I understand we are liable to struggle early on. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out as our Benson was really strong at SUU in fund raising. So I'll be interested to see what comes out of that.
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