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RE: Acoording to this guy Missouri State will be the only one joining the SBC (very long)
Started off logical and then he went way to big. Big Sky will not divide that way.
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RE: Acoording to this guy Missouri State will be the only one joining the SBC (very long)
I'd be lying if I said I haven't scribbled down conference realignment scenarios while I was bored at work before. Difference is I don't post them on the internet. His logic is pretty sound. But he talks as if all of this has already happened. It hasn't. Conferences will cross those bridges when they get there. Right now I'm just trying to focus on what is squarely in front of us. Which is #12. The rest of those conferences are irrelevant to me.
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RE: Acoording to this guy Missouri State will be the only one joining the SBC (very long)
If we are talking divisions... I would imagine the best case scenario (assuming a Missouri State invite) would be for the Cajuns to go east.

That would set the stage for (what is currently) the top 2 teams in the conference to end up in the conference championship game. If both schools are in the "west", it will never happen.

Now, keep in mind, when I say this... it's based on that super narrow scope.
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when he said sbc gave msu a choice....he is guessing.

slc didnt want utpa, slc wants utrg.
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RE: Acoording to this guy Missouri State will be the only one joining the SBC (very long)
If Missouri State comes, it will not be in the East. That will be one of stAte or ULL
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RE: Acoording to this guy Missouri State will be the only one joining the SBC (very long)
Monroe is closer to most Eastern teams, they should be there. Why does everyone always want others to carry their baggage?
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RE: Acoording to this guy Missouri State will be the only one joining the SBC (very long)
(04-12-2014 10:40 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  Monroe is closer to most Eastern teams, they should be there. Why does everyone always want others to carry their baggage?

Yeah, Im pretty tired of accommodating "me too U"

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(04-12-2014 04:29 PM)slycat Wrote:  Started off logical

And then he mentioned football at UNO..........in 2015. 01-wingedeagle
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(04-12-2014 10:40 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  Monroe is closer to most Eastern teams, they should be there. Why does everyone always want others to carry their baggage?

There are some strategic advantages to ASU playing East.

I'm sure if it came to pass, someone will agree to be shipped that way.
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TXST fans will want ASU and UL to stay west.
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(04-12-2014 10:40 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  Monroe is closer to most Eastern teams, they should be there. Why does everyone always want others to carry their baggage?

If ULM is closer to the eastern schools, how would others be "carrying our baggage" if we played in the west? Since we are located very near the center of the conference footprint, either division would be ok with me. Getting to Boone from anywhere is not going to be easy, but neither is Moscow.

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(04-13-2014 12:20 AM)featherhead Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 10:40 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  Monroe is closer to most Eastern teams, they should be there. Why does everyone always want others to carry their baggage?

If ULM is closer to the eastern schools, how would others be "carrying our baggage" if we played in the west? Since we are located very near the center of the conference footprint, either division would be ok with me. Getting to Boone from anywhere is not going to be easy, but neither is Moscow.

--featherhead

Boone is not convienent for any West Division team. Heck, its nearly a straight shot from Jonesboro once you get down to I40...but there is the little problem of the Appalachian Mountains that can cause all sorts of travel issues.
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(04-12-2014 01:01 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  ...
Everyone, I have big news. ...

The dominoes start to fall when the Big East invites Dayton and St. Louis to get to 12. The Big East Conference will generate even more revenue for the Fox Sports 1 network it is in partnership with for its current television contract, ...
Man, if you blink, you miss the big news, but here is where the big news is buried: there is some way for the Big East Conference to generate incremental revenue for FS1 in excess of $100m by adding two teams.

Think about it ... if FS1 can generate in excess of $100m from two invites and the extra BBall inventory they offer FS1, at their current ratings levels, that implies a revolution in the value of regular season BBall, and that is going to filter on down several rungs. Whether the precise moves he speculates about occur or not, this in itself is major news.

Without that revolution in the business of extracting media value from regular season BBall, as FS1 established itself over the coming five years and its ratings build, it will reach the point in two or three years where that extra inventory is worth the cost, and that's when the Big East expands and the dominoes start to fall. But with that revolution the dominoes fall much faster.
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People think that the strong teams of 2013 will remain the strong teams long-term, that isn't how sports work.
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(04-12-2014 01:48 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  After the first 4 paragraphs, it went from believable to what the hell is this dude thinking.

Just has nothing constructive to do with his time. He's full of it.
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RE: Acoording to this guy Missouri State will be the only one joining the SBC (very long)
(04-12-2014 01:46 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  Southland has had their opportunity to take UT-RGV (formerly Pan American) for years. Pan Am made gestures every time expansion came up and the league turned it down at every opportunity.

As for New Orleans football, as far as I have read they just used that as a lie to get into Southland like Corpus did a couple of years ago. They started a club team like UT-Arlington did, but like UTA they have do plans to upgrade to the varsity level.


As for the WAC expansion,
Denver is an academic snob. They wanted out of the WAC when they heard that Grand Canyon (a for profit college) and Utah Valley (a former junior college turned university) were coming on board. I can't believe they would come back now

Grand Canyon is more problematic than Liberty (and coming from me, that's quite a statement). They are FOR PROFIT. I don't think they belong in the NCAA in any division, regardless of other issues.
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Missouri State will be the only one joining the SBC (very long)
(04-13-2014 12:37 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(04-13-2014 12:20 AM)featherhead Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 10:40 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  Monroe is closer to most Eastern teams, they should be there. Why does everyone always want others to carry their baggage?

If ULM is closer to the eastern schools, how would others be "carrying our baggage" if we played in the west? Since we are located very near the center of the conference footprint, either division would be ok with me. Getting to Boone from anywhere is not going to be easy, but neither is Moscow.

--featherhead

Boone is not convienent for any West Division team. Heck, its nearly a straight shot from Jonesboro once you get down to I40...but there is the little problem of the Appalachian Mountains that can cause all sorts of travel issues.
The interstate cut throughs are so low and gradual even a flat lander can handle them easily.
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RE: Acoording to this guy Missouri State will be the only one joining the SBC (very long)
(04-13-2014 04:18 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 01:01 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  ...
Everyone, I have big news. ...

The dominoes start to fall when the Big East invites Dayton and St. Louis to get to 12. The Big East Conference will generate even more revenue for the Fox Sports 1 network it is in partnership with for its current television contract, ...
Man, if you blink, you miss the big news, but here is where the big news is buried: there is some way for the Big East Conference to generate incremental revenue for FS1 in excess of $100m by adding two teams.

Think about it ... if FS1 can generate in excess of $100m from two invites and the extra BBall inventory they offer FS1, at their current ratings levels, that implies a revolution in the value of regular season BBall, and that is going to filter on down several rungs. Whether the precise moves he speculates about occur or not, this in itself is major news.

Without that revolution in the business of extracting media value from regular season BBall, as FS1 established itself over the coming five years and its ratings build, it will reach the point in two or three years where that extra inventory is worth the cost, and that's when the Big East expands and the dominoes start to fall. But with that revolution the dominoes fall much faster.

Oh, I didn't miss that. But took it as evidence of his delusion. Adding those ttwo teams is going to generate 100M? Come on. This guy is full of it.
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RE: Acoording to this guy Missouri State will be the only one joining the SBC (very long)
(04-13-2014 09:56 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 01:46 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  Southland has had their opportunity to take UT-RGV (formerly Pan American) for years. Pan Am made gestures every time expansion came up and the league turned it down at every opportunity.

As for New Orleans football, as far as I have read they just used that as a lie to get into Southland like Corpus did a couple of years ago. They started a club team like UT-Arlington did, but like UTA they have do plans to upgrade to the varsity level.


As for the WAC expansion,
Denver is an academic snob. They wanted out of the WAC when they heard that Grand Canyon (a for profit college) and Utah Valley (a former junior college turned university) were coming on board. I can't believe they would come back now

Grand Canyon is more problematic than Liberty (and coming from me, that's quite a statement). They are FOR PROFIT. I don't think they belong in the NCAA in any division, regardless of other issues.

Tom -- you are blinded by your own intolerance and hatred.
So I guess you are against all private schools being in the NCAA now?
Oh - and any school that makes a profit? Think UGA doesn't turn a profit on sports? Somebody sure is making a lot of money, even if the books don't show it. Non-profits like Electric Co-Ops are funny to me sometimes, because all they have to do to not show a profit is give themselves a raise or more benefits. It is just the way it works.

How about start looking at any positives each program can bring to the conference and just evaluate them on that?

But to say that Liberty shouldn't even be in the NCAA just reveals the level of hatred in your heart. Better get used to them - they will be your conference mates in about... 3, 2, .....

Maybe.

I have no idea if they will get in or not. - Just saying.. "Don't be a hater!"
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(04-13-2014 11:18 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  The interstate cut throughs are so low and gradual even a flat lander can handle them easily.

I shall be testing that statement... whenever Texas State plays there in football.

Of course if we go to divisions, who knows when that will be.
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