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Warren Nolan predicted final SB baseball standings
After today's games here is how Nolan predicts the Belt to end up in baseball

Louisiana 27-3 (50-6 overall)
Ark St. 19-11 (31-23 overall)
WKU 19-11 (33-23 overall)
Texas St. 17-13 (31-24 overall)
South Alabama 13-16 (25-28 overall)
Troy 11-18 (26-29 overall)
Texas Arlington 12-18 (21-33 overall)
Georgia St. 11-19 (24-32 overall)
ULM 11-19 (21-34 overall)
UALR 9-21 (24-32 overall)

In the SoCon Ga. Southern is predicted to be 16-11 (38-19 overall) and App. St. is predicted to be 12-14 (21-32 overall)

If these are correct this year if Louisiana wins the tourney it may be a stretch to see a 2nd team getting in. I think if Ga. Southern was a member there would be a fairly good chance of them being a 2nd team.

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My thought is the Cajuns should lose in the conference tourney for the good of the league.
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(04-06-2014 11:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  My thought is the Cajuns should lose in the conference tourney for the good of the league.

I hear this all the time and its nonesense! First, if your program is on a current losing streak at conference tournament time, then it would not be in its best interest to lose period. Second, if the conference has to depended upon your regular season champion losing to get another team in the NCAA's, it speaks volumes as to the qualitiy of the sport in our conference that year.

Nothing is given, but should UL remain in the Top 10 and another program knocks the Cajuns out of the SBC Tournament, I can live with that. But for UL, securing a Regional far outweighs what is good for the league. The league needs to get better and the resposibilty doesn't fall on the shoulders of the champion.
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I don't want anyone to throw anything. It might be better for the conference to get a second team in, but really... if this second team needs the Cajuns to throw a game, then they aren't going to make it far anyway.

Now keep in mind, I am assuming that the Bobcats are not the ones that the Cajuns are throwing it for. If it ends up being the Bobcats, YOU BETTER FREAKING THROW IT FOR US!
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(04-06-2014 11:49 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(04-06-2014 11:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  My thought is the Cajuns should lose in the conference tourney for the good of the league.

I hear this all the time and its nonesense! First, if your program is on a current losing streak at conference tournament time, then it would not be in its best interest to lose period. Second, if the conference has to depended upon your regular season champion losing to get another team in the NCAA's, it speaks volumes as to the qualitiy of the sport in our conference that year.

Nothing is given, but should UL remain in the Top 10 and another program knocks the Cajuns out of the SBC Tournament, I can live with that. But for UL, securing a Regional far outweighs what is good for the league. The league needs to get better and the resposibilty doesn't fall on the shoulders of the champion.

Depends on how you look at it. If you guys are really 50-6 heading into the tourney...you'd have a regional and National Seed pretty much locked up. In that case...there is no way your coach would throw one of your top pitchers in say...the championship game on Sunday. You'll throw your three weekend guys once each, and let the rest of the staff figure out any other games you play.

I am not actually suggesting you guys should lose intentionally...I was kidding on that. Though I do think you would be foolish to throw your best pitcher for 175 pitches or something in a crazy run to try and win what will be a meaningless tourney for you guys.

This is a down year for the league. Combination of Troy and USA have a lost a ton of players, and most other programs dealing with a lot of youth. We go through it every few years.
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Yea, I get it, but there seems to be a lot of chatter from the Red Wolves fans about UL NOT going to NOLA Bowl for the good of the league, and now lose for the good of the league. I would prefer Red Wolves fans talking about their three SBC tittles in football instead of constantly undermining our current success with little jabs.

I do not subscribe to that kind of thinking period. I thought it was absolutely wonderful that Southern Miss knocked UH out of a BCS game. If UH deserved a BCS game they should have not collapsed. UL is looking to advance as far as possible and losing a championship and potential seeding is not the way to do it. If you win it good for you, too bad for us.
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ArkStateFan said it best:

"The gauntlet is thrown. Schools can sit around and wait for ULL to slump and sink back closer to the median, or can go hard to chase them."

And geeze whats with all the hate for UL on the stAte board? Holy cow... Really?

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(04-06-2014 11:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  My thought is the Cajuns should lose in the conference tourney for the good of the league.

To Ga State. It's only fair. haha
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(04-07-2014 06:18 AM)zeebart21 Wrote:  ArkStateFan said it best:

"The gauntlet is thrown. Schools can sit around and wait for ULL to slump and sink back closer to the median, or can go hard to chase them."

And geeze whats with all the hate for UL on the stAte board? Holy cow... Really?

Z

His statement is dead on! Don't wait for someone to do it for you!
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(04-07-2014 12:15 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(04-06-2014 11:49 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(04-06-2014 11:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  My thought is the Cajuns should lose in the conference tourney for the good of the league.

I hear this all the time and its nonesense! First, if your program is on a current losing streak at conference tournament time, then it would not be in its best interest to lose period. Second, if the conference has to depended upon your regular season champion losing to get another team in the NCAA's, it speaks volumes as to the qualitiy of the sport in our conference that year.

Nothing is given, but should UL remain in the Top 10 and another program knocks the Cajuns out of the SBC Tournament, I can live with that. But for UL, securing a Regional far outweighs what is good for the league. The league needs to get better and the resposibilty doesn't fall on the shoulders of the champion.

Depends on how you look at it. If you guys are really 50-6 heading into the tourney...you'd have a regional and National Seed pretty much locked up. In that case...there is no way your coach would throw one of your top pitchers in say...the championship game on Sunday. You'll throw your three weekend guys once each, and let the rest of the staff figure out any other games you play.

I am not actually suggesting you guys should lose intentionally...I was kidding on that. Though I do think you would be foolish to throw your best pitcher for 175 pitches or something in a crazy run to try and win what will be a meaningless tourney for you guys.

This is a down year for the league. Combination of Troy and USA have a lost a ton of players, and most other programs dealing with a lot of youth. We go through it every few years.

As I said, nothing is a given. If UL is one the last teams on the table to host a regional, then it is far better for the conference that UL focus on winning and not sitting starters. In that case, it would be much better for the conference to have one regional host team, rather then two regional participants, one being mediocre with less than 40 wins. I understand the money, but its not that great for baseball.

If UL is a lock to host a regional, than I have no problem with Coach Robichaux resting a few arms for a regional. In fact, he did so this past weekend with his own son, sitting our #1 starter against Troy. He clearly is taking nothing for granted right now and that is the way he should play this season out. Anything less is selling his staff, athletes and supporters out for the good of the conference.
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Regionals are awarded before the conference championship game would be played anyway.
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(04-07-2014 09:38 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  Regionals are awarded before the conference championship game would be played anyway.

Actually, the 16 regional host sites last year were announced late on the same day as the finals for the Sun Belt conference tournament, which was May 26th. The top 8 (National) seeds were announced June 3rd.
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(04-07-2014 09:38 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  Regionals are awarded before the conference championship game would be played anyway.

Regionals will be announced during the championship game this year. Its either a 3 ET or 4 ET announcement...I cant remember.
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(04-07-2014 10:11 AM)CajunAmos Wrote:  
(04-07-2014 09:38 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  Regionals are awarded before the conference championship game would be played anyway.

Actually, the 16 regional host sites last year were announced late on the same day as the finals for the Sun Belt conference tournament, which was May 26th. The top 8 (National) seeds were announced June 3rd.

Thought so, thanks.
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(04-07-2014 12:09 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(04-07-2014 10:11 AM)CajunAmos Wrote:  
(04-07-2014 09:38 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  Regionals are awarded before the conference championship game would be played anyway.

Actually, the 16 regional host sites last year were announced late on the same day as the finals for the Sun Belt conference tournament, which was May 26th. The top 8 (National) seeds were announced June 3rd.

Thought so, thanks.

The SBC Championship game will have no bearing on a regional host
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(04-07-2014 12:17 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(04-07-2014 12:09 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(04-07-2014 10:11 AM)CajunAmos Wrote:  
(04-07-2014 09:38 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  Regionals are awarded before the conference championship game would be played anyway.

Actually, the 16 regional host sites last year were announced late on the same day as the finals for the Sun Belt conference tournament, which was May 26th. The top 8 (National) seeds were announced June 3rd.

Thought so, thanks.

The SBC Championship game will have no bearing on a regional host

Probably not, but it could have a huge bearing on a top 8 seed.
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(04-07-2014 12:17 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(04-07-2014 12:09 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(04-07-2014 10:11 AM)CajunAmos Wrote:  
(04-07-2014 09:38 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  Regionals are awarded before the conference championship game would be played anyway.

Actually, the 16 regional host sites last year were announced late on the same day as the finals for the Sun Belt conference tournament, which was May 26th. The top 8 (National) seeds were announced June 3rd.

Thought so, thanks.

The SBC Championship game will have no bearing on a regional host

As Amos said, it does if you are the last one or two possible national seeds.
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(04-06-2014 11:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  My thought is the Cajuns should lose in the conference tourney for the good of the league.

The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that you are totally WRONG.

Dream big, but say UL actually wins a national championship in baseball. That my Arkansas buddy is absolutely the best thing that could happen to your baseball program.

Your coach could say to a recruits, they did it, so can we. He can say you are going to play against one of the best programs in the country. No, no, losing is the worst thing we could do, winning is the best thing for the conference. We still got a long way to go before talking this way either way.
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(04-07-2014 02:00 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  
(04-06-2014 11:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  My thought is the Cajuns should lose in the conference tourney for the good of the league.

The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that you are totally WRONG.

Dream big, but say UL actually wins a national championship in baseball. That my Arkansas buddy is absolutely the best thing that could happen to your baseball program.

Your coach could say to a recruits, they did it, so can we. He can say you are going to play against one of the best programs in the country. No, no, losing is the worst thing we could do, winning is the best thing for the conference. We still got a long way to go before talking this way either way.



What does the Cajuns winning a national title have to do with winning the conference tournament?

You do realize that the majority of the time the teams that play in the National Title Series did not win their conference tourney right? And while we are on this topic, a Regional Berth would do just as much for us, if not more than a Cajun National title. If you guys were to win it all, it would certainly help a lot...but it would be far easier to recruit pointing to a regional berth and then using it to say we can win a National title.
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First of all I want to make it clear, it is a wish, hope rather than an expectation about the national championship. I do not expect anyone to win the national championships, but know someone will.

The number I remember is 87% of teams hosting a super regional go on to the CWS. Now you well know we are not in a power baseball conference and in fact are a little light this season overall. So every win is critical for Louisiana to have a chance to get the super regional. You well know the committee is looking for any excuse to NOT give one to the S-BC.

IMO having a national champion is the best thing for this conference in any sport to help the others. If your team deserves an at large bid they will get it most of the times.
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