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RE: Off Campus vs. On Campus Stadium
(04-02-2014 02:10 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  
(04-02-2014 01:42 PM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  
(04-02-2014 01:24 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  
(04-02-2014 12:00 AM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  UL plays at Cajun Field which sits on the UL athletic complex/research park of around 400 acres. The campus proper is about 140 acres and is separated from the athletic complex by about a quarter mile wide area of mixed commercial and residential. There are currently plans in the works to acquire some of this property separating the two to make one continuous campus.

I don't know what qualifies as off campus for you, but I don't consider Cajun Field to be off campus.

Prior to moving to Cajun Field in 1971, the Cajuns played at McNaspy Stadium which was located on what I previously called the "campus proper," the 140 acre or so main campus at UL. I believe McNaspy was built around 1940. Now to go further back than that, I'm a little rusty. But I believe before McNaspy, the Cajuns played in the area that is now the location of our on campus swamp. Any older Cajun fans feel free to chime in and correct me if I'm wrong there.

Hope this helps with your research!

Southwestern Stadium was built between McKinley Street and H├ębrard Avenue. It's dedication took place on Oct.1 15, 1926, at the Southwestern - Sam Houston Normal game. The grandstand seated 1,200 persons, and 1,500 more could be seated in bleachers.

SLI athletes continued to use the facilities built under Stephens until McNaspy Stadium and the Earl K. Long gymnasium were completed during the 1939-1940 SLI construction program under President Lethar Frazer. More than a dozen new buildings went up on the campus during those years.

Thanks CA. Between McKinley and Hebrard was the location of Southwestern Stadium. Now the location of the old McLaurin Gym near the union makes sense.

So we had Southwestern Stadium from 1926-1940 on the main campus, and McNaspy from 1940-1971.

Perhaps the current quad was the location of athletic events prior to 1926?? That block between Johnston, St. Mary, University, and Hebrard is the oldest part of the campus.

I thought someone referenced All-American Christian "Keener" Cagle playing in the quad, and his biography shows him playing between 1922-1925 and graduating from SLI. I thought it was interesting he went on to West Point and played college ball for an additional four years, his last three being named All-American. It shows he didn't graduate from Army as he was secretly married to Marian Haile in 1928 in violation of Academy rules. Times sure have changed.

we had an on campus stadium at UTA until late 70's I think. It was torn down to make room for an activities bldg. and we played across town in a major league ballpark for a few years while our current on campus stadium was being built. It sucked and crowds were small. the on campus stadium generates a lot more excitement on game day in my opinion. before a game the band forms up outside the music bldg. and marches to the stadium thru greek row picking up fans and students along the way to the stadium..maybe 6 or 7 blocks away..cant wait to see that again
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RE: Off Campus vs. On Campus Stadium
Idaho played all our games on campus, in the late 90's when we moved up to D1A we had to average something like 15,000 fans for a year which would be hard in a 16,000 seat dome, so we moved our home games 8 miles west to Pullman, WA to play at WSU's stadium. As far as the impact on attendance goes the attendance did rise into the 20,000+ range, although there were some sweetheart deals on ticket sales like offering dirt cheap tickets around town, to sponsors, WSU fans etc which may or may not have affected the attendance. Attendance in the dome has been pretty constant around 13k, but our big games (BJC, Hawaii, CSU, SDSU come to mind) have sold out quickly so who knows if we could have gotten back into the 20's or not.
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RE: Off Campus vs. On Campus Stadium
(04-02-2014 02:10 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  I thought it was interesting he went on to West Point and played college ball for an additional four years, his last three being named All-American. It shows he didn't graduate from Army as he was secretly married to Marian Haile in 1928 in violation of Academy rules. Times sure have changed.

With respect to being able to play so many years of college sports, yes, times have changed.

With respect to not being allowed to be married as a cadet/midshipman at a service academy, times have not changed.
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RE: Off Campus vs. On Campus Stadium
First off, I want to again thank everyone who contributed to the conversation. For those of you who are interested, I'm posting today to provide the results of my research.

Question: Does playing at an on-campus stadium, holding all else equal, affect overall win percentage for Division 1-A college football programs?

Answer: Based on my results, teams do win more games when their stadium is located on-campus. However, the t-stat on the regression analysis was <2 (meaning the increase in win percentage for teams located on-campus was such a low percentage that it should be considered insignificant.

Quick notes:
  • The research included 170 observations
  • Football.stassen.com was used to compile win/loss records
  • FootballGeography.com was used to classify teams as on-campus vs. off-campus

*I have attached the regression analysis for anyone that would like to look at the information a little further.

If you have any further questions, feel free to send me a PM and I'd be glad to answer them.


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RE: Off Campus vs. On Campus Stadium
(04-02-2014 11:44 AM)moehler Wrote:  I have been to alot of stadiums both on campus and off, and in my option, without a doubt, it seems fans have a better experience with on campus stadiums. One of the big advantages is fans show up early, visit the campus, have a nice lunch/dinner, and then casually head towards the stadium for tailgating and then the game, it just makes for a better experience than showing up early in a huge parking outside the stadium 4 hours before the game and sitting there.

This, I have been to both hands down on campus is a superior situation for fans and especially for lazy students.
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