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I'm surprised Steve hasn't been mentioned for other jobs
His resume overall is probably as good if not better than Porter's, and Porter has had two jobs since leaving UALR. I think some of it has to do with not really being interesting in leaving a secure position. He's pretty well assured of being here as long as Chris is here. Porter also took a head assistant's job under Majerus at St. Louis for a few seasons, which enhanced his resume. Steve has probably not been willing to do that, but enjoys running his own show. I think if Steve had gone to a big time program as an assistant, he would have eventually gotten a bigger head coaching job. But that didn't, or hasn't happened, so he has sort of gotten buried in the coaching fraternity and other younger guys have come along and are getting those jobs. But he's still young enough to move up if given the opportunity. But I don't think he's trying to interview for openings. Someone would have to come to him and that's not likely to happen, unless we get to the NCAA and win a game or two, and that's an unlikely scenario.04-cheers
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RE: I'm surprised Steve hasn't been mentioned for other jobs
I 'spect you have it about right. Steve has enough connections by now that if he had wanted to go the assistant route at a big money school, he probably could have found one somewhere.
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RE: I'm surprised Steve hasn't been mentioned for other jobs
(02-02-2014 06:16 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  His resume overall is probably as good if not better than Porter's, and Porter has had two jobs since leaving UALR. I think some of it has to do with not really being interesting in leaving a secure position. He's pretty well assured of being here as long as Chris is here. Porter also took a head assistant's job under Majerus at St. Louis for a few seasons, which enhanced his resume. Steve has probably not been willing to do that, but enjoys running his own show. I think if Steve had gone to a big time program as an assistant, he would have eventually gotten a bigger head coaching job. But that didn't, or hasn't happened, so he has sort of gotten buried in the coaching fraternity and other younger guys have come along and are getting those jobs. But he's still young enough to move up if given the opportunity. But I don't think he's trying to interview for openings. Someone would have to come to him and that's not likely to happen, unless we get to the NCAA and win a game or two, and that's an unlikely scenario.04-cheers

If that's the case, that's pretty sad. If we've got a coach who doesn't want to go somewhere else, because he isn't interested in leaving a secure position, where he is pretty assured that he'll have this job as long as Chris is here. If you're interested in a winning viable program, you're **** out of luck as long as Chris is here huh? I'm disappointed that there hasn't been a change made several years ago, but I don't really buy in to this lifetime contract bull****. Although I have absolutely no confidence in this chancellor as giving much of **** whether this program is good or not, even he might get concerned when to the cash level falls low enough, and even Chris might be going then.
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(02-02-2014 06:17 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  I 'spect you have it about right. Steve has enough connections by now that if he had wanted to go the assistant route at a big money school, he probably could have found one somewhere.

Why would a DI one head coach voluntarily chose to go "the assistant route".
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(02-02-2014 09:21 PM)mjs Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 06:17 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  I 'spect you have it about right. Steve has enough connections by now that if he had wanted to go the assistant route at a big money school, he probably could have found one somewhere.

Why would a DI one head coach voluntarily chose to go "the assistant route".

Money.
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(02-02-2014 11:58 PM)PTJR Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 09:21 PM)mjs Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 06:17 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  I 'spect you have it about right. Steve has enough connections by now that if he had wanted to go the assistant route at a big money school, he probably could have found one somewhere.

Why would a DI one head coach voluntarily chose to go "the assistant route".

Money.

As I understand it, Steve makes pretty good money here with his entire package. He might not make any more than that as an assistant, and wouldn't have the autonomy he has here. I guess there are many reasons why people make certain life decisions. I wouldn't ever expect Steve to leave on his own, unless he was offered a premiere job.04-cheers
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(02-03-2014 12:02 AM)outsideualr Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 11:58 PM)PTJR Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 09:21 PM)mjs Wrote:  
(02-02-2014 06:17 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  I 'spect you have it about right. Steve has enough connections by now that if he had wanted to go the assistant route at a big money school, he probably could have found one somewhere.

Why would a DI one head coach voluntarily chose to go "the assistant route".

Money.

As I understand it, Steve makes pretty good money here with his entire package. He might not make any more than that as an assistant, and wouldn't have the autonomy he has here. I guess there are many reasons why people make certain life decisions. I wouldn't ever expect Steve to leave on his own, unless he was offered a premiere job.04-cheers

Hard for me to imagine a Sun Belt level head coach taking an assistant's job, even for more money. Someone could probably find an example, but I doubt there are many.
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(02-03-2014 01:29 PM)mjs Wrote:  Hard for me to imagine a Sun Belt level head coach taking an assistant's job, even for more money. Someone could probably find an example, but I doubt there are many.

I expect if Coach K or someone at that level called, he would at least consider it.
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(02-03-2014 01:34 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  
(02-03-2014 01:29 PM)mjs Wrote:  Hard for me to imagine a Sun Belt level head coach taking an assistant's job, even for more money. Someone could probably find an example, but I doubt there are many.

I expect if Coach K or someone at that level called, he would at least consider it.

That might be hard to turn down. Still there are very few coaches who are going to voluntarily give up a head job to be an assistant. I think Buzz Williams may have left UNO to be an assistant at Marquette (Not sure if UNO was phasing out DI basketball at that point or not). That certainly worked out for him and he may have been promised something before he took the job. Steve was a head coach at a Juco, before he came here to be an assistant. Probably, figured it is easier to get a head DI job, if you are an assistant DI coach, than a Juco head coach. He was right and it worked out well for him and for UALR fans.
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RE: I'm surprised Steve hasn't been mentioned for other jobs
(02-03-2014 10:20 PM)mjs Wrote:  
(02-03-2014 01:34 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  
(02-03-2014 01:29 PM)mjs Wrote:  Hard for me to imagine a Sun Belt level head coach taking an assistant's job, even for more money. Someone could probably find an example, but I doubt there are many.

I expect if Coach K or someone at that level called, he would at least consider it.

That might be hard to turn down. Still there are very few coaches who are going to voluntarily give up a head job to be an assistant. I think Buzz Williams may have left UNO to be an assistant at Marquette (Not sure if UNO was phasing out DI basketball at that point or not). That certainly worked out for him and he may have been promised something before he took the job. Steve was a head coach at a Juco, before he came here to be an assistant. Probably, figured it is easier to get a head DI job, if you are an assistant DI coach, than a Juco head coach. He was right and it worked out well for him and for UALR fans.

Yea, attendance has dropped, and supposedly according to Kerry, the season ticket holders have dropped the past three years. And you think it worked out well for the fans huh? I guess there probably are a few who think it worked out well for them.
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