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RE: Shaver?
(01-26-2016 11:35 AM)SoCal Frank Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 05:59 PM)NC Tribe Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 04:14 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  But not all of them.

I don't buy the elite academic excuse either. We should be an elite program with athletes qualified to complete a major successfully just like the rest of the student body. We've done so with football and I don't see a difference.

To me our program is where it is due to money being invested into it and the facilities. See what is happening in football. I hope for the same with hoops. FWIW, the same can be said for baseball. We still need money to pay the coaching staff, but at least the facilities are better than when I played on the football practice field (or when the football team practiced in our outfield).

I'm not sure I buy the argument that football is more successful right now than basketball is. There isn't an FCS for hoops, and both teams tied for a conference championship in the regular season. Hoops is more competitive on the field/court wit the big boys than football is.

I agree that lack of funding has been somewhat responsible for the hoops programs struggles. The schedule emphasizes road games for cash and then filler non-DI games at home. It is hard to sell tickets and build you season tciket base with a schedule like that. Pay for assistant coaches is always one of the last things to rise as a program does.

Tony clearly has the basketball program on the right track. Are we where we want to be yet, no, but we are definitely headed in teh right direction. I find it silly to even consider replacing him at this point. Frankly, I just hope he doesn't retire early like Charlie Woolum did and I hope when he does "kick the door in" that he doesn't leave the 'Burg looking for on last big payday, like Larranega did.

I agree with all of this. Particularly with the point that basketball competes far more effectively with the real D1 teams. It's true with baseball as well. If only people could understand that enhancing the experience at both the Kaplan and Plumeri would further add to interest and attendance? The potential exists.

The people who need to understand this sit in offices in William & Mary Hall. Scheduling DIII and NAIA does little to get quasi fan interested. There has to be a way to get a name school to come and play a game here. Each year others schools on our level seem find a way to attract a big name play on their court.
Having a parking lot with many of the Athletic Dept.vans parked in The Hall's parking lot along with construction equipment scattered about. Before the Elon game I saw this going on and it made wonder if or how many fans gave up and went home. I parked where I do for football games.
The game atmosphere has really been nicely ramped up with all the time out contests.
01-26-2016 12:52 PM
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RE: Shaver?
(01-26-2016 12:52 PM)Tribe Fan Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 11:35 AM)SoCal Frank Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 05:59 PM)NC Tribe Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 04:14 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  But not all of them.

I don't buy the elite academic excuse either. We should be an elite program with athletes qualified to complete a major successfully just like the rest of the student body. We've done so with football and I don't see a difference.

To me our program is where it is due to money being invested into it and the facilities. See what is happening in football. I hope for the same with hoops. FWIW, the same can be said for baseball. We still need money to pay the coaching staff, but at least the facilities are better than when I played on the football practice field (or when the football team practiced in our outfield).

I'm not sure I buy the argument that football is more successful right now than basketball is. There isn't an FCS for hoops, and both teams tied for a conference championship in the regular season. Hoops is more competitive on the field/court wit the big boys than football is.

I agree that lack of funding has been somewhat responsible for the hoops programs struggles. The schedule emphasizes road games for cash and then filler non-DI games at home. It is hard to sell tickets and build you season tciket base with a schedule like that. Pay for assistant coaches is always one of the last things to rise as a program does.

Tony clearly has the basketball program on the right track. Are we where we want to be yet, no, but we are definitely headed in teh right direction. I find it silly to even consider replacing him at this point. Frankly, I just hope he doesn't retire early like Charlie Woolum did and I hope when he does "kick the door in" that he doesn't leave the 'Burg looking for on last big payday, like Larranega did.

I agree with all of this. Particularly with the point that basketball competes far more effectively with the real D1 teams. It's true with baseball as well. If only people could understand that enhancing the experience at both the Kaplan and Plumeri would further add to interest and attendance? The potential exists.

The people who need to understand this sit in offices in William & Mary Hall. Scheduling DIII and NAIA does little to get quasi fan interested. There has to be a way to get a name school to come and play a game here. Each year others schools on our level seem find a way to attract a big name play on their court.
Having a parking lot with many of the Athletic Dept.vans parked in The Hall's parking lot along with construction equipment scattered about. Before the Elon game I saw this going on and it made wonder if or how many fans gave up and went home. I parked where I do for football games.
The game atmosphere has really been nicely ramped up with all the time out contests.

Besides Michigan St going to NU (hockey deal), who else in the CAA has brought a P5 program in to play on their home court in recent years?

The DIII games are needed for the team to scrape the rust off after the exam break. No need to schedule a likely loss. Otherwise, I think the slate of home games is decent and there are a ton of compelling CAA matchups given the strength and balance in the league this year.

I like they are routinely scheduling a couple P5 schools on the road per year. I just don't see where our AD has any realistic shot of getting a P5 school to come to the Hall without giving up the farm.
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(01-26-2016 01:05 PM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 12:52 PM)Tribe Fan Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 11:35 AM)SoCal Frank Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 05:59 PM)NC Tribe Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 04:14 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  But not all of them.

I don't buy the elite academic excuse either. We should be an elite program with athletes qualified to complete a major successfully just like the rest of the student body. We've done so with football and I don't see a difference.

To me our program is where it is due to money being invested into it and the facilities. See what is happening in football. I hope for the same with hoops. FWIW, the same can be said for baseball. We still need money to pay the coaching staff, but at least the facilities are better than when I played on the football practice field (or when the football team practiced in our outfield).

I'm not sure I buy the argument that football is more successful right now than basketball is. There isn't an FCS for hoops, and both teams tied for a conference championship in the regular season. Hoops is more competitive on the field/court wit the big boys than football is.

I agree that lack of funding has been somewhat responsible for the hoops programs struggles. The schedule emphasizes road games for cash and then filler non-DI games at home. It is hard to sell tickets and build you season tciket base with a schedule like that. Pay for assistant coaches is always one of the last things to rise as a program does.

Tony clearly has the basketball program on the right track. Are we where we want to be yet, no, but we are definitely headed in teh right direction. I find it silly to even consider replacing him at this point. Frankly, I just hope he doesn't retire early like Charlie Woolum did and I hope when he does "kick the door in" that he doesn't leave the 'Burg looking for on last big payday, like Larranega did.

I agree with all of this. Particularly with the point that basketball competes far more effectively with the real D1 teams. It's true with baseball as well. If only people could understand that enhancing the experience at both the Kaplan and Plumeri would further add to interest and attendance? The potential exists.

The people who need to understand this sit in offices in William & Mary Hall. Scheduling DIII and NAIA does little to get quasi fan interested. There has to be a way to get a name school to come and play a game here. Each year others schools on our level seem find a way to attract a big name play on their court.
Having a parking lot with many of the Athletic Dept.vans parked in The Hall's parking lot along with construction equipment scattered about. Before the Elon game I saw this going on and it made wonder if or how many fans gave up and went home. I parked where I do for football games.
The game atmosphere has really been nicely ramped up with all the time out contests.

Besides Michigan St going to NU (hockey deal), who else in the CAA has brought a P5 program in to play on their home court in recent years?

The DIII games are needed for the team to scrape the rust off after the exam break. No need to schedule a likely loss. Otherwise, I think the slate of home games is decent and there are a ton of compelling CAA matchups given the strength and balance in the league this year.

I like they are routinely scheduling a couple P5 schools on the road per year. I just don't see where our AD has any realistic shot of getting a P5 school to come to the Hall without giving up the farm.


Agree that its tough to get P5 schools to come to the Hall, but a few CAA schools have been able to get P5 schools in their buildings.

UVA played at JMU recently, and LSU visited CofC this year. It's tough for us to even get an A10 school to come play us at the Kap.
01-26-2016 01:36 PM
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UVA played at JMU last season...how they did this I do not know! And LSU played at C of C this season (and Charleston beat LSU & Simmons to boot!)..again, how they got LSU there is unknown.

I do know we've offered the farm--two or three road games in exchange for one visit to Kaplan---to UVA,
North Carolina, and Georgetown. But no takers. We couldn't even have UNC come to Kaplan for the NIT
when that Tribe team was ranked higher and the NIT somehow assigned the game to Chapel Hill! Va Tech
was supposed to play at Kaplan this season but pulled out. Tony, with all his UNC connections, has been
unable to get the Tarheels here to Kaplan.

I believe Richmond owes us a home game next year and regular home and away games for these two old rivals still in the works. Also an irregular occasional one and one series with VCU is being worked on.

I'd like to see us work out schedules, too, with teams that might play us here...old rivals like GMU, Davidson,
and George Washington. Easy travel for all schools and competitive games. Or how about trying schools like Butler, Wichita State, Northern Iowa, etc. for home and homes?

We also need to have a neutral floor holiday classic appearance where we get a shot at high ranked powers on neutral courts. CAA teams like Drexel (they beat Alabama last year on a neutral court tourney), Hofstra,
and, I believe, Northeastern have done this in recent years. We used to play in these decades ago fairly regularly.

Frankly, many Tribe fans are tired of the High Points, Libertys, Woffords and Howards et al. Crowds are almost always small and most of the time we gain little by winning and it's a misery when we lose.
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I'm glad someone brought up the parking. I usually have a pass for the Yates lot. However, I drove separately from the family for the Elon game. I got there like 15-20 minutes before tip. The Hall parking lot was a complete and total disaster. I ended up having to park parallel along the road next to the IM field. I understand students park there and there's not much you can do about that. But the trailers and vans and etc are a serious problem. If we want to get Kaplan with more people, how are we going to do that? I agree with Tribe Fan - I think there HAD to be people that came and just turned around and left because there was just nowhere to park.
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I once remember a member of the athletic department going on an extended rant about the construction equipment in the parking lot. He clearly wanted it gone as much as I did

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(01-26-2016 03:21 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  I once remember a member of the athletic department going on an extended rant about the construction equipment in the parking lot. He clearly wanted it gone as much as I did

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Well, this buried thread about Shaver has been resurrected, only to be turned into squabbling about construction equipment in a parking lot. I think that settles it...Shaver is the new Laycock.
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