(01-08-2014 03:28 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 01:36 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 12:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I would have simply told the child, discreetly, that "You've done nothing wrong, but we need to pass these out later". Then I would find out what kind of wacko parent would send a child to school to promote their relgion to their public school classmates without the other parents consent.

Either way, the child's parents were most at fault here.

I see no reason to discipline the teacher. But perhaps we could do some training as to how to deal with kids with whacked out parents who insist on using their kids to promote their religion in violation of school district policy.

You won't see this reply since you have me blocked, but others will. Your subliminal jabs at this kid's parents is ridiculous, and very hypocritical of you.

"Whacked out parents" is subliminal? I'm thinking more like overt.

Bottom line - schools today are afraid to allow ANYTHING that isn't 100% PC certified - for fear of lawsuits. It's tough to keep the parents of 2000 kids all happy - and when the parents aren't happy, 1st thing they threaten is "lawsuit".

It's all about protection from being sued.

If the parents are sending their kids to school with gifts designed to promote Christianity to other kids (6 year olds), then I think its a sign of wacko behavior. Its rude to the other kids and disrespectful of their parents' wishes.

I went to schools in Alabama where this sh*t went on constantly. It was deeply resented by many of us who were at school for an education, not a church service. If you want to share Jesus, do it outside of school. Or send your kids to a religious school.

(01-08-2014 03:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 03:28 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 01:36 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 12:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I would have simply told the child, discreetly, that "You've done nothing wrong, but we need to pass these out later". Then I would find out what kind of wacko parent would send a child to school to promote their relgion to their public school classmates without the other parents consent.

Either way, the child's parents were most at fault here.

I see no reason to discipline the teacher. But perhaps we could do some training as to how to deal with kids with whacked out parents who insist on using their kids to promote their religion in violation of school district policy.

You won't see this reply since you have me blocked, but others will. Your subliminal jabs at this kid's parents is ridiculous, and very hypocritical of you.

"Whacked out parents" is subliminal? I'm thinking more like overt.

Bottom line - schools today are afraid to allow ANYTHING that isn't 100% PC certified - for fear of lawsuits. It's tough to keep the parents of 2000 kids all happy - and when the parents aren't happy, 1st thing they threaten is "lawsuit".

It's all about protection from being sued.

If the parents are sending their kids to school with gifts designed to promote Christianity to other kids (6 year olds), then I think its a sign of wacko behavior. Its rude to the other kids and disrespectful of their parents' wishes.

I went to schools in Alabama where this sh*t went on constantly. It was deeply resented by many of us who were at school for an education, not a church service. If you want to share Jesus, do it outside of school. Or send your kids to a religious school.

I tend to agree.

(01-08-2014 03:28 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 01:36 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 12:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I would have simply told the child, discreetly, that "You've done nothing wrong, but we need to pass these out later". Then I would find out what kind of wacko parent would send a child to school to promote their relgion to their public school classmates without the other parents consent.

Either way, the child's parents were most at fault here.

I see no reason to discipline the teacher. But perhaps we could do some training as to how to deal with kids with whacked out parents who insist on using their kids to promote their religion in violation of school district policy.

You won't see this reply since you have me blocked, but others will. Your subliminal jabs at this kid's parents is ridiculous, and very hypocritical of you.

"Whacked out parents" is subliminal? I'm thinking more like overt.

Bottom line - schools today are afraid to allow ANYTHING that isn't 100% PC certified - for fear of lawsuits. It's tough to keep the parents of 2000 kids all happy - and when the parents aren't happy, 1st thing they threaten is "lawsuit".

It's all about protection from being sued.

No, he's calling them whacked out because they are religious, but he's not coming right out and saying it.

There is something wrong with a parent that would want to do this to their child.

(01-08-2014 03:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is something wrong with a parent that would want to do this to their child.

Teach them the symbolism behind a candy cane?

(01-08-2014 03:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 03:28 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 01:36 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 12:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I would have simply told the child, discreetly, that "You've done nothing wrong, but we need to pass these out later". Then I would find out what kind of wacko parent would send a child to school to promote their relgion to their public school classmates without the other parents consent.

Either way, the child's parents were most at fault here.

I see no reason to discipline the teacher. But perhaps we could do some training as to how to deal with kids with whacked out parents who insist on using their kids to promote their religion in violation of school district policy.

You won't see this reply since you have me blocked, but others will. Your subliminal jabs at this kid's parents is ridiculous, and very hypocritical of you.

"Whacked out parents" is subliminal? I'm thinking more like overt.

Bottom line - schools today are afraid to allow ANYTHING that isn't 100% PC certified - for fear of lawsuits. It's tough to keep the parents of 2000 kids all happy - and when the parents aren't happy, 1st thing they threaten is "lawsuit".

It's all about protection from being sued.

If the parents are sending their kids to school with gifts designed to promote Christianity to other kids (6 year olds), then I think its a sign of wacko behavior. Its rude to the other kids and disrespectful of their parents' wishes.

I went to schools in Alabama where this sh*t went on constantly. It was deeply resented by many of us who were at school for an education, not a church service. If you want to share Jesus, do it outside of school. Or send your kids to a religious school.

Why don't you take me off of block so we can have a conversation without a third party. There was nothing rude about sending the kid to school with a message about the significance of the candy cane and it's origin, furthermore, it was the kid's sister who helped him put the message out after she'd heard the story behind it. It's nothing the poor deprived, offended, belittled, demeanored, mentally murdered children couldn't throw away. And if the parents didn't like it, they could throw it away if the kid came home with it. It's not a hard decision to make.

@ Fitbud - If my kids came home with muslim whatevers, I would just throw them away if my kids didn't. Being in Sunday School and church every Sunday, they know to toss stuff like that away. As a parent, it's my job to teach my kids what I want my kids to know and what I want my kids to understand and what I want my kids to believe in. That's part of being a parent, and relying on public educators to do my job isn't my bag. I teach them what's right and what's wrong by my standards and my tradition because that's my God given right. It's not hard to throw away something they bring home that is against their religion, and it's not like it's a course they're taking there. It's a freaking candy cane.

(01-08-2014 03:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is something wrong with a parent that would want to do this to their child.

To do what?

Actually, there is something wrong with a parent that would want to do THIS to a child.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse


There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with your child having faith that by believing Jesus died for our sins will take us to streets of gold after our physical life is over. To think that is a bad thing is mentally f*cked in the head. What do you want, to lay blacked out in a box while worms eat you?

(01-08-2014 04:01 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 03:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is something wrong with a parent that would want to do this to their child.

To do what?

To be their messenger. Parents should not be using their kids to promote their agenda, religion, or otherwise.