(01-08-2014 02:35 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 02:27 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 02:10 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 01:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 09:15 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Wasn't the game in a dome? You had your chance and you blew it. ASU has traveled on a Sunday 3 years in a row after the holidays. You don't think it's difficult for people to take off after the holidays? People will always have a excuse of why they failed. You got invited to Detroit and failed. The Cajuns and ASU haven't. Ulm failed. Both f_u's failed when they went. Troy and MTSU have both done well when given the chance.

Don't confuse "attendance" with a SBC school having most of it...

I went to the Go Daddy this year and locals made up over half, well over half of the attendance. As a matter of fact, well opinion, based on what I saw in the 4th qt ASU was lucky to have 6,000 fans at the game. You couldn't tell this till the locals started leaving but I'm fairly sure they weren't Ball St or ASU fans that left in the 4th qt.

Western took 5k to Detroit in a BLIZZARD yes a BLIZZARD not just snow but also 25 to 35 mph winds....5k on a 8 hour drive in good conditions.

Since Western had about 23,000 thousand in Nashville for a regular season game I;m sure that would translate to 35k for a bowl game in Nashville.


But lets not forget, not only has ULL not proved they will travel 7 to 8 hours for a bowl....you also haven't shown you will travel for a bowl game played outside in the elements. Getting 40,000 fans to travel 2 hours is great and no one is saying any different but lets see what those numbers are when you have to travel to a Detroit or 8 hours away and play outside.


My guess is if ULL played in Detroit last year it wouldn't have been close to 5k ULL fans there. Not with a major snow storm being forecast...and turning into a blizzard

We aren't 8 hours from Detroit. If we played in San Antonio, Dallas, Atlanta Birmingham we would brink at least 15k actual people to those cities. Houston, mobile or Shreveport would be 20-25k (houston probably 30k).

https://ragincajuns.shutterfly.com/

So I'm suppose to take your word on this with NOTHING else to back it up on. I don't have a problem with the Huston or Shreveport numbers with 20k but the others will have to be a show me

I'm supposed to take your word on what you would bring to Nashville? With no numbers to back it up? We have something to go on...3 years in a row. I know we wouldn't bring Nola numbers anywhere else but to think we couldn't bring the numbers I mentioned to those places is just being negative. I don't think those numbers are outrageous at all.

I gave you something to base the WKU numbers on....Western had 23k in Nashville for a regular season game. Based on a 50% increase for a bowl game adds up close to the number I projected.

Your past 3 years has nothing to do with traveling 6 to 8 hours and playing outside and maybe on a work day. Believe me those make a huge difference than driving 2 hours and then driving back on the day of the game.

(01-08-2014 02:58 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 02:35 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 02:27 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 02:10 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 01:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Don't confuse "attendance" with a SBC school having most of it...

I went to the Go Daddy this year and locals made up over half, well over half of the attendance. As a matter of fact, well opinion, based on what I saw in the 4th qt ASU was lucky to have 6,000 fans at the game. You couldn't tell this till the locals started leaving but I'm fairly sure they weren't Ball St or ASU fans that left in the 4th qt.

Western took 5k to Detroit in a BLIZZARD yes a BLIZZARD not just snow but also 25 to 35 mph winds....5k on a 8 hour drive in good conditions.

Since Western had about 23,000 thousand in Nashville for a regular season game I;m sure that would translate to 35k for a bowl game in Nashville.


But lets not forget, not only has ULL not proved they will travel 7 to 8 hours for a bowl....you also haven't shown you will travel for a bowl game played outside in the elements. Getting 40,000 fans to travel 2 hours is great and no one is saying any different but lets see what those numbers are when you have to travel to a Detroit or 8 hours away and play outside.


My guess is if ULL played in Detroit last year it wouldn't have been close to 5k ULL fans there. Not with a major snow storm being forecast...and turning into a blizzard

We aren't 8 hours from Detroit. If we played in San Antonio, Dallas, Atlanta Birmingham we would brink at least 15k actual people to those cities. Houston, mobile or Shreveport would be 20-25k (houston probably 30k).

https://ragincajuns.shutterfly.com/

So I'm suppose to take your word on this with NOTHING else to back it up on. I don't have a problem with the Huston or Shreveport numbers with 20k but the others will have to be a show me

I'm supposed to take your word on what you would bring to Nashville? With no numbers to back it up? We have something to go on...3 years in a row. I know we wouldn't bring Nola numbers anywhere else but to think we couldn't bring the numbers I mentioned to those places is just being negative. I don't think those numbers are outrageous at all.

I gave you something to base the WKU numbers on....Western had 23k in Nashville for a regular season game. Based on a 50% increase for a bowl game adds up close to the number I projected.

Your past 3 years has nothing to do with traveling 6 to 8 hours and playing outside and maybe on a work day. Believe me those make a huge difference than driving 2 hours and then driving back on the day of the game.

And Georgia state averaged 15k a game this year. Announced attendance for that game was 24,599. That was announced...I guess wku brought everyone for that game, nobody from UK went, that's why they had it at a neutral site. Yeah...whatever

(01-08-2014 02:39 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 01:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 09:15 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 09:08 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 08:58 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  At least we proved we can travel... Somewhere. Everyone else with exception of ASU has proven they can't travel anywhere. Why was ULM not the Indy's choice this year? They went last year? They were bowl eligible. Did they not impress with their travel? Wku got left out at 8-4...did they not impress in Detroit? You keep talking about if you had a bowl close you would set records, well until you do it...it's just a thought. We have done it, 3 times. Outside of ASU...the rest of league has no proof whatsoever. We almost doubled the previous attendance record (before Cajuns first year) this year. Before anyone even says it... Tulane did help but they should have done a lot better. To only be 6k more than last year with a team from Carolina...sure sounds like we held up our end.

Thanks for making my point. No one is disparaging ULL's obvious turnout or the fact you are the obvious choice for New Orleans. It's a no brainer. You keep mentioning that no one else has proven they can do it. WKU has been bowl eligible for 3 years straight, just like ArkSt and ULL, yet WKU has only been to one Bowl game...Detroit, during a Blizzard the day after Christmas. We've never had a legitimate opportunity to prove anything.

Wasn't the game in a dome? You had your chance and you blew it. ASU has traveled on a Sunday 3 years in a row after the holidays. You don't think it's difficult for people to take off after the holidays? People will always have a excuse of why they failed. You got invited to Detroit and failed. The Cajuns and ASU haven't. Ulm failed. Both f_u's failed when they went. Troy and MTSU have both done well when given the chance.

Don't confuse "attendance" with a SBC school having most of it...

I went to the Go Daddy this year and locals made up over half, well over half of the attendance. As a matter of fact, well opinion, based on what I saw in the 4th qt ASU was lucky to have 6,000 fans at the game. You couldn't tell this till the locals started leaving but I'm fairly sure they weren't Ball St or ASU fans that left in the 4th qt.

Western took 5k to Detroit in a BLIZZARD yes a BLIZZARD not just snow but also 25 to 35 mph winds....5k on a 8 hour drive in good conditions.

Since Western had about 23,000 thousand in Nashville for a regular season game I;m sure that would translate to 35k for a bowl game in Nashville.


But lets not forget, not only has ULL not proved they will travel 7 to 8 hours for a bowl....you also haven't shown you will travel for a bowl game played outside in the elements. Getting 40,000 fans to travel 2 hours is great and no one is saying any different but lets see what those numbers are when you have to travel to a Detroit or 8 hours away and play outside.


My guess is if ULL played in Detroit last year it wouldn't have been close to 5k ULL fans there. Not with a major snow storm being forecast...and turning into a blizzard

I think the final number was roughly 7500 or so. It was less than last year, but not by as many as people think.

Either way, we're 8 hours from Mobile, sort of like you are from Detroit, and the game was played in the rain and sleet. I really cant complain much figuring that several people pulled out at the last minute when they heard the 10 degree forecasts for Jonesboro Monday.

I stayed a few days longer on my trip because of the weather at home. I was planing on heading home from Troy on Jan 4th till I saw -8 degrees in the forecast for Owensboro. So we decided to take in Mobile for a few days and the Go Daddy bowl. I ended up enjoying the game more than I thought I would.

(01-08-2014 12:26 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 11:54 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 11:25 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 10:49 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  How can you claim ULM failed in the Independence Bowl? Using the same criteria that the New Orleans Bowl uses to gauge attendance, they drew 41,853 against a MAC school. If Ohio drew a similar 12,000 that ULL fans claim, then they would have a similar, though not as high as, attendance mark as this years NOB. For comparison, this years Indy with Arizona and Boston College, two P5's, drew 36,917 using the same counting method.

Add in that last years weather was terrible while this years was temperate and it makes the disparity even greater.

Take the chip off your shoulder. No one is saying what the Cajuns did wasn't impressive. But the are legitimate questions as to whether they could do it if they went elsewhere but NO. Since there is no precedent, it heresay one way or the other.

Being that close to Shreveport...they failed. I saw the game. I don't think they sold their first allotment. That's why I say they failed. First d-1 winning season and first bowl game. Monroe is closer to Shreveport than we are New Orleans. There wasn't 42k people at that game. Not even close.

It is an apples-to-apples comparison because the NOB and IB report attendance the same way. Whether less no-show more for one versus the other can be debated, but both counts are compiled using the same method and therefore can be compared.

We sold 3 allotments of over 22k tickets and were told no to a 4th allotment. That's a fact, not debatable...fact. Not claiming ticketmaster, walk ups whatever. Over 22k thru the university.

No where did I say where they came from, so what you typed is irrelevant.

FACT: New Orleans Bowl and Independence Bowl report their attendance the same way.

FACT: NOB reported attendance as 54,728 this year.

FACT: Independence Bowl reported 41,853 last year.

Best Guesstimate: Tulane brought between 12,000-20,000 fans to NOB.

Best Guesstimate: Ohio brought 3,000-6,000 to the IB.

The guesstimate's were taken from this board as well as the MAC's and C-USA's.

[EDIT] No one is questioning the NOB's number. No one is questioning the IB's numbers but the Cajun set. No one is questioning that the Cajuns drew the most. However, only part of the Cajun set is questioning anyone else.[/EDIT]

And as an aside, you Cajun posters are getting ridiculous. In one post, you criticize the SBC posters for trying to diminish your attendance at the NOB, but on the other, you criticize everyone else's bowl attendance. Not all but some of you are the worst cases of the pot calling the kettle black. While you guys make the SBC a good conference, I sometimes wish y'all would get the invite so the hypocrisy level would fall on the board. It is ridiculous. If we don't bow down and say LOUISIANA is the best at everything and no one else can be at their level, some of you get crazy defensive, usually over something that isn't even an insult.

Some just think the best way to deal with it is by burning everyone else's houses to the ground, not realizing we share an aprtment building.

(01-08-2014 05:14 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 12:26 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 11:54 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 11:25 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 10:49 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  How can you claim ULM failed in the Independence Bowl? Using the same criteria that the New Orleans Bowl uses to gauge attendance, they drew 41,853 against a MAC school. If Ohio drew a similar 12,000 that ULL fans claim, then they would have a similar, though not as high as, attendance mark as this years NOB. For comparison, this years Indy with Arizona and Boston College, two P5's, drew 36,917 using the same counting method.

Add in that last years weather was terrible while this years was temperate and it makes the disparity even greater.

Take the chip off your shoulder. No one is saying what the Cajuns did wasn't impressive. But the are legitimate questions as to whether they could do it if they went elsewhere but NO. Since there is no precedent, it heresay one way or the other.

Being that close to Shreveport...they failed. I saw the game. I don't think they sold their first allotment. That's why I say they failed. First d-1 winning season and first bowl game. Monroe is closer to Shreveport than we are New Orleans. There wasn't 42k people at that game. Not even close.

It is an apples-to-apples comparison because the NOB and IB report attendance the same way. Whether less no-show more for one versus the other can be debated, but both counts are compiled using the same method and therefore can be compared.

We sold 3 allotments of over 22k tickets and were told no to a 4th allotment. That's a fact, not debatable...fact. Not claiming ticketmaster, walk ups whatever. Over 22k thru the university.

No where did I say where they came from, so what you typed is irrelevant.

FACT: New Orleans Bowl and Independence Bowl report their attendance the same way.

FACT: NOB reported attendance as 54,728 this year.

FACT: Independence Bowl reported 41,853 last year.

Best Guesstimate: Tulane brought between 12,000-20,000 fans to NOB.

Best Guesstimate: Ohio brought 3,000-6,000 to the IB.

The guesstimate's were taken from this board as well as the MAC's and C-USA's.

[EDIT] No one is questioning the NOB's number. No one is questioning the IB's numbers but the Cajun set. No one is questioning that the Cajuns drew the most. However, only part of the Cajun set is questioning anyone else.[/EDIT]

And as an aside, you Cajun posters are getting ridiculous. In one post, you criticize the SBC posters for trying to diminish your attendance at the NOB, but on the other, you criticize everyone else's bowl attendance. Not all but some of you are the worst cases of the pot calling the kettle black. While you guys make the SBC a good conference, I sometimes wish y'all would get the invite so the hypocrisy level would fall on the board. It is ridiculous. If we don't bow down and say LOUISIANA is the best at everything and no one else can be at their level, some of you get crazy defensive, usually over something that isn't even an insult.

Some just think the best way to deal with it is by burning everyone else's houses to the ground, not realizing we share an aprtment building.

Keep your best guestimate mr blogger, I was there and no way did Tulane have more then 10K-12K in attendance. UL had more fans in attendance then in 2012 when is was estimated that between Ticket Masters and UL ticket sales there 40K Cajun fans in attendance. No way were there less in attendance at this years bowl game.

How many threads on here is going to become a UL New Orleans bowl attendance thread. Good grief.

(01-08-2014 03:02 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 02:58 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 02:35 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 02:27 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 02:10 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  We aren't 8 hours from Detroit. If we played in San Antonio, Dallas, Atlanta Birmingham we would brink at least 15k actual people to those cities. Houston, mobile or Shreveport would be 20-25k (houston probably 30k).

https://ragincajuns.shutterfly.com/

So I'm suppose to take your word on this with NOTHING else to back it up on. I don't have a problem with the Huston or Shreveport numbers with 20k but the others will have to be a show me

I'm supposed to take your word on what you would bring to Nashville? With no numbers to back it up? We have something to go on...3 years in a row. I know we wouldn't bring Nola numbers anywhere else but to think we couldn't bring the numbers I mentioned to those places is just being negative. I don't think those numbers are outrageous at all.

I gave you something to base the WKU numbers on....Western had 23k in Nashville for a regular season game. Based on a 50% increase for a bowl game adds up close to the number I projected.

Your past 3 years has nothing to do with traveling 6 to 8 hours and playing outside and maybe on a work day. Believe me those make a huge difference than driving 2 hours and then driving back on the day of the game.

And Georgia state averaged 15k a game this year. Announced attendance for that game was 24,599. That was announced...I guess wku brought everyone for that game, nobody from UK went, that's why they had it at a neutral site. Yeah...whatever

What the Sam Hell are you talking about and how did GSU get dragged into this. Lol. The WKU / UK game was around 47k

And as for the WKU attendance in Detroit. That was a wild wild drive to make the day after Xmas . We rented a 4x4 SUV and it took us over 10 hours and I counted 15+ accidents while driving through some areas with a foot of snow and almost zero vision. When It comes to big events and traveling ,, WKU fans show up. Most WKU fans planned to drive since it was drivable but never planned on the worst blizzard in years to hit MI,IN and Ohio and still had 5k+

(01-08-2014 08:09 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  And as for the WKU attendance in Detroit. That was a wild wild drive to make the day after Xmas . We rented a 4x4 SUV and it took us over 10 hours and I counted 15+ accidents while driving through some areas with a foot of snow and almost zero vision. When It comes to big events and traveling ,, WKU fans show up. Most WKU fans planned to drive since it was drivable but never planned on the worst blizzard in years to hit MI,IN and Ohio and still had 5k+

You forgot to mention that it was all uphill driving, there and back.

(01-08-2014 08:17 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 08:09 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  And as for the WKU attendance in Detroit. That was a wild wild drive to make the day after Xmas . We rented a 4x4 SUV and it took us over 10 hours and I counted 15+ accidents while driving through some areas with a foot of snow and almost zero vision. When It comes to big events and traveling ,, WKU fans show up. Most WKU fans planned to drive since it was drivable but never planned on the worst blizzard in years to hit MI,IN and Ohio and still had 5k+

You forgot to mention that it was all uphill driving, there and back.

Sorry. It was a uphill drive both ways. We drove home in reverse

(01-08-2014 08:24 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 08:17 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 08:09 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  And as for the WKU attendance in Detroit. That was a wild wild drive to make the day after Xmas . We rented a 4x4 SUV and it took us over 10 hours and I counted 15+ accidents while driving through some areas with a foot of snow and almost zero vision. When It comes to big events and traveling ,, WKU fans show up. Most WKU fans planned to drive since it was drivable but never planned on the worst blizzard in years to hit MI,IN and Ohio and still had 5k+

You forgot to mention that it was all uphill driving, there and back.

Sorry. It was a uphill drive both ways. We drove home in reverse

I'm still trying to erase the image of all those football fans packed into buses and being fed free greasy pizza.