JIM15068 Wrote:UCF will have a nice team this year and may even get a BCS victory in an upset. Never the less, if it occurs, it will be an upset. It seems to me that a lot of UCF fans are doing a lot of premature chest thumping. Just to bring y'all back to earth a little, here's a history lesson. By the way UCF does already have one BCS victory, in 2000 vs. Alabama.

UCF VS. BCS CONFERENCES:
Conference
Win Loss Tie Pct.
Atlantic Coast Conference
0
8
0
0.000
Big 12 Conference
0
1
0
0.000
Big East Conference
0
7
0
0.000
Big Ten Conference
0
5
0
0.000
Pacific-10 Conference
0
1
0
0.000
Southeastern Conference
1
11
0
0.083

Good luck on your season except when you play the BIGEAST. I think you might do as well as 10-3 this year.

Jim

UCF

1-33 vs the BCS. That Alabama win was by 2 points over a 3-8 Bama team.

L-yes Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:

WVU82 Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:3 are rivalry games, and the other Pitt vs. UCF is a pretty even match up.

WVU vs Marsha a rivalry ?? you've got to be kidding...

Two games ago in the WVU vs moou 'rivalry', it was 1923.


Pitt vs UCF EVEN...dude, what are you smoking ?


I'll tell 'ya how bad CUSA is...
When 0-11 and 4-8 teams from the previous season are playing for your conference championship...YOU SUCK !!! BAD!!!

JIM, UCF only played two BCS teams last year. We lost a close one to South Carolina, and then played terrible and got killed at USF. Both those games were at the beginning of the season before UCF really got rolling anyway.

Its funny how you can 'get rolling' when Rice and Tulane show up on the ole schedule. Its kind of like Memphis suddenly winning CUSA basketball.

That's funny stuff, L-Yes. Memphis was destined to win the conference this year no matter who was or wasn't in the conference. Even you know that. I simply regret the timing.

Gray Avenger Wrote:

Quote:[quote="kardphan"][quote="L-yes"] Rice, SMU, Tulane, are gawd awful and I'm sure there are more I haven't named yet. IF you can't pick up some easy victories playing those three teams then I don't know what to say.

I am proud to have such fine academic institutions as Rice, SMU and Tulane in C-USA and these traditon-rich programs won't always be easy wins. Keep in mind also that:

(1) Rice played a very tough OOC schedule which included Texas and UCLA. The Owls gave UCF and UTEP all they wanted.

(2) SMU narrowly lost to Oklahoma and gave TCU their only loss of the season, probably knocking them out of a BCS bowl

(3) Tulane deserves tons of credit for even keeping their athletic program intact after Hurricane Katrina (they played all games on the road)

The road to mediocrity is paved with moral victories.

3601 Wrote:

L-yes Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:

WVU82 Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:3 are rivalry games, and the other Pitt vs. UCF is a pretty even match up.

WVU vs Marsha a rivalry ?? you've got to be kidding...

Two games ago in the WVU vs moou 'rivalry', it was 1923.


Pitt vs UCF EVEN...dude, what are you smoking ?


I'll tell 'ya how bad CUSA is...
When 0-11 and 4-8 teams from the previous season are playing for your conference championship...YOU SUCK !!! BAD!!!

JIM, UCF only played two BCS teams last year. We lost a close one to South Carolina, and then played terrible and got killed at USF. Both those games were at the beginning of the season before UCF really got rolling anyway.

Its funny how you can 'get rolling' when Rice and Tulane show up on the ole schedule. Its kind of like Memphis suddenly winning CUSA basketball.

That's funny stuff, L-Yes. Memphis was destined to win the conference this year no matter who was or wasn't in the conference. Even you know that. I simply regret the timing.

It is what it is.

No Louisville, no UC, no Marquette, no Depaul, no Charlotte = Memphis CUSA title.

Quote:[quote="L-yes"]
No Louisville, no UC, no Marquette, no Depaul, no Charlotte = Memphis CUSA title.

I am confident that Houston, Tulsa, UTEP and UAB, among others, will provide plenty of basketball competition in the near future. I am damned glad that we are no longer affiliated with the likes of Marquette, DePaul and Charlotte. It's very refreshing to belong to an all-sports conference.

Gray Avenger Wrote:

Quote:[quote="L-yes"]
No Louisville, no UC, no Marquette, no Depaul, no Charlotte = Memphis CUSA title.

I am confident that Houston, Tulsa, UTEP and UAB, among others, will provide plenty of basketball competition in the near future. I am damned glad that we are no longer affiliated with the likes of Marquette, DePaul and Charlotte. It's very refreshing to belong to an all-sports conference.

Good for you but that's beside the point.

Its obvious that the second tier programs of old CUSA are now the cream of nCUSA. Not saying that Memphis was second tier but UAB and Houston were aside from an anomoly or two.

I'm curious how you would have ranked the old CUSA basketball programs. MU, UofL, UC and UNCC are all certainly in my top 5.

L-yes Wrote:

3601 Wrote:

L-yes Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:

WVU82 Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:3 are rivalry games, and the other Pitt vs. UCF is a pretty even match up.

WVU vs Marsha a rivalry ?? you've got to be kidding...

Two games ago in the WVU vs moou 'rivalry', it was 1923.


Pitt vs UCF EVEN...dude, what are you smoking ?


I'll tell 'ya how bad CUSA is...
When 0-11 and 4-8 teams from the previous season are playing for your conference championship...YOU SUCK !!! BAD!!!

JIM, UCF only played two BCS teams last year. We lost a close one to South Carolina, and then played terrible and got killed at USF. Both those games were at the beginning of the season before UCF really got rolling anyway.

Its funny how you can 'get rolling' when Rice and Tulane show up on the ole schedule. Its kind of like Memphis suddenly winning CUSA basketball.

That's funny stuff, L-Yes. Memphis was destined to win the conference this year no matter who was or wasn't in the conference. Even you know that. I simply regret the timing.

It is what it is.

No Louisville, no UC, no Marquette, no Depaul, no Charlotte = Memphis CUSA title.

Wouldn't have mattered. We both know that. That was proven by our non-conference play and our NCAA tournament play. Ask Cincinnati what it was like playing Memphis this past year. They know. Pitino is a smart man. He knew better. I don't blame him.

WVU82 Wrote:Will the BEast put up 200 points on CUSA this fall ?

Pitt vs UCF

USF vs UCF

WVU vs Marsha

WVU vs ECU

I say Hell yeah...WVU might do 120 by itself...

15-20 last season was all WV could muster on ECU. In fact we only gave up 300 yards of total offense.

L-yes Wrote:

3601 Wrote:

L-yes Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:

WVU82 Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:3 are rivalry games, and the other Pitt vs. UCF is a pretty even match up.

WVU vs Marsha a rivalry ?? you've got to be kidding...

Two games ago in the WVU vs moou 'rivalry', it was 1923.


Pitt vs UCF EVEN...dude, what are you smoking ?


I'll tell 'ya how bad CUSA is...
When 0-11 and 4-8 teams from the previous season are playing for your conference championship...YOU SUCK !!! BAD!!!

JIM, UCF only played two BCS teams last year. We lost a close one to South Carolina, and then played terrible and got killed at USF. Both those games were at the beginning of the season before UCF really got rolling anyway.

Its funny how you can 'get rolling' when Rice and Tulane show up on the ole schedule. Its kind of like Memphis suddenly winning CUSA basketball.

That's funny stuff, L-Yes. Memphis was destined to win the conference this year no matter who was or wasn't in the conference. Even you know that. I simply regret the timing.

It is what it is.

No Louisville, no UC, no Marquette, no Depaul, no Charlotte = Memphis CUSA title.

We'd have won the BE title this year.... NIT boy. ;-)

NIT Boy is your coaches name.

:domokun:

WVU82 Wrote:Will the BEast put up 200 points on CUSA this fall ?

Pitt vs UCF

USF vs UCF

WVU vs Marsha

WVU vs ECU

I say Hell yeah...WVU might do 120 by itself...

2-2 or 3-1 in favor of CUSA. I think UCF wins both of their games, and I think that ECU COULD pull of an upset against WVU.

I think UCF will jump up and bite USF and Pitt just like that bullet "bit" Forrest Gump --- and in the same place. UCF should be very good next year. Their entire offensive line returns, they have a three year starter at QB, they return over 75% of their lettermen, and all of those highly skilled neew comers from last year aren't 'newcomers' any longer. You can't teach them the speed they had last year but you sure can make 'em a heck of a lot stonger in a year.

kardphan Wrote:

st932253 Wrote:

CardinalJim Wrote:I say the Big East takes out the BCS broom and sweeps .......

Central Florida has NEVER beat a BCS opponent at home. Matter of fact its no surprise that Central Florida lost all their games last season to BCS....yada....BCS....yada

CJ

Dude - you're putting a LOT of stock in the speed and strength of that BCS contract. It's a legally binding document, not a lineman. But hey, its' yours 2nd year in the conference, so I guess you're like the 16 year old who just started driving....doesn't matter what the car looks like.

If we beat USF or Pitt - it will be a good win for UCF against a BCS team. However, that doesn't mean too much for me other than the value of a "W" or bragging rights. In the big picture, I hope we win our conference games and shock the world against Florida - a team that is in a power conference.

Heck, Temple, Duke, Kentucky, Vandy, UNC, Arizona and Northwestern were all BCS teams that we could have beaten. Wouldn't have meant jack. If we had played them and beaten them and used that record as bragging rights - you guys would be rolling on the floor laughing.

Man thats pretty cocky to say for a UCF fan. So Pitt wouldn't be considered a great victory for a program that really hasn't done jack sh!t? I could of sworn Pitt was considered one of the 25 best football programs of all time. Arizona and Northwestern are bad examples to use because I believe you would get smacked in the mouth by those schools.

When we destroyed UNC last year I looked at that as a very solid victory for UofL, because for one its an "ACC" team, we recruit Virgina and North Carolina. Not only that but UNC has knocked off some solid ACC powers over the years. UNC, Zona, N'western aren't bad every year. Some of you guys talk out of the side of your mouths as if you have been winning forever(being consistent would help your argument). UofL sure doesn't have the right to act as if beating any BCS team is meaning less(Even beating UK). Beating any team from a BCS league regardless of what team you are beating is a good win. You always want to beat the BCS schools you have an opportunity of beating first especially if you come from the ranks of the have nots. Instead of being cocky and overlooking a "possible" solid victory over Pitt as if its meaningless. Beating UCF does nothing for Pitt, losing to them hurts. What will a victory over UCF do for the morale of the Pitt program? NOthing, a victory over Pitt does way more for your program than it does for Pitt beating you.

Pitt hasnt been great in a long time... the did get the bcs game 2 years ago... but they were far from great. Pitt has a tendency to lose to teams that they should beat...IE USF a few years ago... and Ohio last year.. I would consider a win over pitt as a good win... not a great one... the only real signature win possible on our schedule is UF... Pitt would be a notch above USF... and USF about = to USM....

CollegeCard Wrote:

Sir Galahad Wrote:And USF has never beaten a BCS team not in the Big East, your point?

Talk about spinning something. I think the 2001 USF win over 7-5 Tangerine Bowl Champion Pitt certainly counts as a BCS win.

I suspect if USF had beaten Pitt and for the sake of argument South Carolina, you would have just said, "USF has never beaten a BCS team not in the Big East or SEC".

Thanks for the qualifiers.

I memory is correct when U played pit they were something like 1-3 or 0-2...they caught fire late and had a winning season... but when u played them they had no confidence and were playing badly..

L-yes Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:

WVU82 Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:3 are rivalry games, and the other Pitt vs. UCF is a pretty even match up.

WVU vs Marsha a rivalry ?? you've got to be kidding...

Two games ago in the WVU vs moou 'rivalry', it was 1923.


Pitt vs UCF EVEN...dude, what are you smoking ?


I'll tell 'ya how bad CUSA is...
When 0-11 and 4-8 teams from the previous season are playing for your conference championship...YOU SUCK !!! BAD!!!

JIM, UCF only played two BCS teams last year. We lost a close one to South Carolina, and then played terrible and got killed at USF. Both those games were at the beginning of the season before UCF really got rolling anyway.

Its funny how you can 'get rolling' when Rice and Tulane show up on the ole schedule. Its kind of like Memphis suddenly winning CUSA basketball.

We'll never know, of course, that is why you can make your arrogant statement;but my guess is Memphis would've won C-USA this past year in any form of extistence. Heck they would have had a shot at winning the BE. They were one of a handful of teams that could have won the whole thing.

Tigers2B1 Wrote:I think UCF will jump up and bite USF and Pitt just like that bullet "bit" Forrest Gump --- and in the same place. UCF should be very good next year. Their entire offensive line returns, they have a three year starter at QB, they return over 75% of their lettermen, and all of those highly skilled neew comers from last year aren't 'newcomers' any longer. You can't teach them the speed they had last year but you sure can make 'em a heck of a lot stonger in a year.

They just so happen to be playing two of the better "defensive" teams in the big east. Wanny may not be a special coach, but he would have to be clueless not to win with the talent at his disposal. USF has a few questions on offense to answer but other than that, they return quite a few players and there defense basically remains intact. I will give UCF credit for being improved and also having the home field advantage. Unless Pitt falls asleep at the wheel and if USF just lays a golden egg, its hard for me to imagine either of those teams losing. At the same time, Pitt has dropped the ball against teams they are clearly better than and USF is a heated rival. I can see why UCF fans would be confident and I'm certainly not saying they should be. I'm just looking at the game from a different perspective. I just don't think anybody in CUSA has a better defense than Pitt or USF, thats just my opinion.

Tigeer Wrote:

L-yes Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:

WVU82 Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:3 are rivalry games, and the other Pitt vs. UCF is a pretty even match up.

WVU vs Marsha a rivalry ?? you've got to be kidding...

Two games ago in the WVU vs moou 'rivalry', it was 1923.


Pitt vs UCF EVEN...dude, what are you smoking ?


I'll tell 'ya how bad CUSA is...
When 0-11 and 4-8 teams from the previous season are playing for your conference championship...YOU SUCK !!! BAD!!!

JIM, UCF only played two BCS teams last year. We lost a close one to South Carolina, and then played terrible and got killed at USF. Both those games were at the beginning of the season before UCF really got rolling anyway.

Its funny how you can 'get rolling' when Rice and Tulane show up on the ole schedule. Its kind of like Memphis suddenly winning CUSA basketball.

We'll never know, of course, that is why you can make your arrogant statement;but my guess is Memphis would've won C-USA this past year in any form of extistence. Heck they would have had a shot at winning the BE. They were one of a handful of teams that could have won the whole thing.

Last I checked Memphis was a 1 seed that flamed out in the round of 8.

Tigeer Wrote:

L-yes Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:

WVU82 Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:3 are rivalry games, and the other Pitt vs. UCF is a pretty even match up.

WVU vs Marsha a rivalry ?? you've got to be kidding...

Two games ago in the WVU vs moou 'rivalry', it was 1923.


Pitt vs UCF EVEN...dude, what are you smoking ?


I'll tell 'ya how bad CUSA is...
When 0-11 and 4-8 teams from the previous season are playing for your conference championship...YOU SUCK !!! BAD!!!

JIM, UCF only played two BCS teams last year. We lost a close one to South Carolina, and then played terrible and got killed at USF. Both those games were at the beginning of the season before UCF really got rolling anyway.

Its funny how you can 'get rolling' when Rice and Tulane show up on the ole schedule. Its kind of like Memphis suddenly winning CUSA basketball.

We'll never know, of course, that is why you can make your arrogant statement;but my guess is Memphis would've won C-USA this past year in any form of extistence. Heck they would have had a shot at winning the BE. They were one of a handful of teams that could have won the whole thing.

nm

L-yes Wrote:

Tigeer Wrote:

L-yes Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:

WVU82 Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:3 are rivalry games, and the other Pitt vs. UCF is a pretty even match up.

WVU vs Marsha a rivalry ?? you've got to be kidding...

Two games ago in the WVU vs moou 'rivalry', it was 1923.


Pitt vs UCF EVEN...dude, what are you smoking ?


I'll tell 'ya how bad CUSA is...
When 0-11 and 4-8 teams from the previous season are playing for your conference championship...YOU SUCK !!! BAD!!!

JIM, UCF only played two BCS teams last year. We lost a close one to South Carolina, and then played terrible and got killed at USF. Both those games were at the beginning of the season before UCF really got rolling anyway.

Its funny how you can 'get rolling' when Rice and Tulane show up on the ole schedule. Its kind of like Memphis suddenly winning CUSA basketball.

We'll never know, of course, that is why you can make your arrogant statement;but my guess is Memphis would've won C-USA this past year in any form of extistence. Heck they would have had a shot at winning the BE. They were one of a handful of teams that could have won the whole thing.

Last I checked Memphis was a 1 seed that flamed out in the round of 8.

Same as Villanova and UConn? Villanova lost to the #3 seed in their region. It was Florida who ended up winning the national championship. I'm sure that many UConn fans are still upset about losing to George Mason, but it's the NCAA tourney and these things happen.

Memphis lost to #2 seed UCLA while playing in front of a very pro-UCLA crowd in Oakland. Do I wish that we had made the Final Four again? Of course. Do I think we "flamed out"? Absolutely not. Being a preseaon Top 10 team and then going to the NIT is flaming out. Not making the Elite Eight.

L-yes Wrote:

Tigeer Wrote:

L-yes Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:

WVU82 Wrote:

Jugnaut Wrote:3 are rivalry games, and the other Pitt vs. UCF is a pretty even match up.

WVU vs Marsha a rivalry ?? you've got to be kidding...

Two games ago in the WVU vs moou 'rivalry', it was 1923.


Pitt vs UCF EVEN...dude, what are you smoking ?


I'll tell 'ya how bad CUSA is...
When 0-11 and 4-8 teams from the previous season are playing for your conference championship...YOU SUCK !!! BAD!!!

JIM, UCF only played two BCS teams last year. We lost a close one to South Carolina, and then played terrible and got killed at USF. Both those games were at the beginning of the season before UCF really got rolling anyway.

Its funny how you can 'get rolling' when Rice and Tulane show up on the ole schedule. Its kind of like Memphis suddenly winning CUSA basketball.

We'll never know, of course, that is why you can make your arrogant statement;but my guess is Memphis would've won C-USA this past year in any form of extistence. Heck they would have had a shot at winning the BE. They were one of a handful of teams that could have won the whole thing.

Last I checked Memphis was a 1 seed that flamed out in the round of 8.

Flamed out?