(12-11-2013 02:05 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 01:04 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 12:53 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 12:07 PM)ATX Bobcat Wrote:  I dont know much about EKU. However, i think the most important factors should be geographical footprint, large student body and/or fanbase, and the desire to be in the Sun Belt. Id gladly take a school like EKU, Missouri State, heck even Liberty (maybe), over a school like JMU that really wants nothing to do with the conference, and will bolt at the first opportunity its given.

I dunno about JMU bolting. It's been like pulling teeth to get the admin to even discuss leaving the CAA. Plus, Harrisonburg isn't a big market. If JMU goes Sun Belt, the only way you'll see them leave is if the Sun Belt disbands.

Would like to have JMU in the Sun Belt, but anyone reading the MAC board can see the same attitude that JMU administrators seem to have about academics being much more of a consideration than most conferences would be concerned with. Makes a lot of people think that JMU will go MAC if they ever decide to expand.

JMU will not be going to the MAC. The only option for JMU is the Sun Belt and it doesn't look like the admin wants to do that despite many fans insisting to just join an FBS conference already. I actually think JMU is going to keep holding out hoping for an offer that will not be coming. In a few years, JMU might not even be in these discussions anymore.

That's the impression I get from JMU folkos I hear from. A lot are worried that they will miss the SBC window and no other options will come along.

(12-11-2013 11:50 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 02:05 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 01:04 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 12:53 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 12:07 PM)ATX Bobcat Wrote:  I dont know much about EKU. However, i think the most important factors should be geographical footprint, large student body and/or fanbase, and the desire to be in the Sun Belt. Id gladly take a school like EKU, Missouri State, heck even Liberty (maybe), over a school like JMU that really wants nothing to do with the conference, and will bolt at the first opportunity its given.

I dunno about JMU bolting. It's been like pulling teeth to get the admin to even discuss leaving the CAA. Plus, Harrisonburg isn't a big market. If JMU goes Sun Belt, the only way you'll see them leave is if the Sun Belt disbands.

Would like to have JMU in the Sun Belt, but anyone reading the MAC board can see the same attitude that JMU administrators seem to have about academics being much more of a consideration than most conferences would be concerned with. Makes a lot of people think that JMU will go MAC if they ever decide to expand.

JMU will not be going to the MAC. The only option for JMU is the Sun Belt and it doesn't look like the admin wants to do that despite many fans insisting to just join an FBS conference already. I actually think JMU is going to keep holding out hoping for an offer that will not be coming. In a few years, JMU might not even be in these discussions anymore.

That's the impression I get from JMU folkos I hear from. A lot are worried that they will miss the SBC window and no other options will come along.

Had you experienced the last 5 years of blunders and utter incompetence from the higher ups at JMU's athletic department, you would feel the same way.

Here we are in the middle of December with no coach for close to three weeks now and the only rumor of a potential new coach has been Shane Beamer so far.

wow didn't realize JMU was in such a bad spot for a new HC. Good luck, but whoever gets the job better take off running on the recruiting trail.

(12-12-2013 09:56 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  wow didn't realize JMU was in such a bad spot for a new HC. Good luck, but whoever gets the job better take off running on the recruiting trail.

JMU hired Carr Consulting to do their coaching search (because I guess it's too hard?) and apparently couldn't legally hire a coach (public university in VA) until after the official job posting date, which was yesterday. Not sure how UVA and VT got around that one seeing how both of their basketball coaches were hired within one week....again, internal incompetence seems to be the name of the game around there.

(12-11-2013 11:50 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 02:05 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 01:04 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 12:53 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 12:07 PM)ATX Bobcat Wrote:  I dont know much about EKU. However, i think the most important factors should be geographical footprint, large student body and/or fanbase, and the desire to be in the Sun Belt. Id gladly take a school like EKU, Missouri State, heck even Liberty (maybe), over a school like JMU that really wants nothing to do with the conference, and will bolt at the first opportunity its given.

I dunno about JMU bolting. It's been like pulling teeth to get the admin to even discuss leaving the CAA. Plus, Harrisonburg isn't a big market. If JMU goes Sun Belt, the only way you'll see them leave is if the Sun Belt disbands.

Would like to have JMU in the Sun Belt, but anyone reading the MAC board can see the same attitude that JMU administrators seem to have about academics being much more of a consideration than most conferences would be concerned with. Makes a lot of people think that JMU will go MAC if they ever decide to expand.

JMU will not be going to the MAC. The only option for JMU is the Sun Belt and it doesn't look like the admin wants to do that despite many fans insisting to just join an FBS conference already. I actually think JMU is going to keep holding out hoping for an offer that will not be coming. In a few years, JMU might not even be in these discussions anymore.

That's the impression I get from JMU folkos I hear from. A lot are worried that they will miss the SBC window and no other options will come along.

There is a strong chance of that happening IMO. Everyone agrees that JMU would be a great get, but I'm sure that patience is running out.

Any mention of FGCU is many years down the road.
And by that time who knows what the conference affiliations will be?
However, I believe FGCU will be a viable and good addition for some conference. It is located in a football-crazy state, it is located in a relatively wealthy area which should help with funding, it is at least 2 hours from any other football playing universities (USF, FIU, FAU, UM) and is enjoying pretty good support for its current sports from the community. Also, there a lot of very good local area athletes within 50 miles of campus. Not saying that they would have chosen FGCU over their current schools if they had the choice, but when you have talent like MacKenzie Alexander, Sammy Watkins, Mike Heuerman, Jayron Kearse, Dallas Crawford, Deadrin Senat, Mario Pender and Jordan Diggs, to name a few, in your backyard, you have the chance to do well.
FGCU to SBC in 2020

(12-11-2013 02:25 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 02:18 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 09:39 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(12-09-2013 08:21 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(12-09-2013 05:59 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  I will state it again: I think our best options for expansion are:

1. UTA football (already a member)
2. Missouri State (They just announced a stadium expansion and other facilty upgrades)

3. Florida Gulf Coast (should announce football intentions next year and ready to play by 2017)

4. Kennesaw State

5. UNF (will have to add football after FGCU announces football. It would be the only university in state without football.

Go back and read the threads when I mentioned Ga State and Ga Southern as candidates.

If youre comparing KSU to Georgia State and Georgia Southern...LOL! Um...no. Kennesaw State is what people accuse Georgia State of being but what we havent been since the 1980's. Kennesaw State is a commuter school that draws most of its enrollment from the Western and Northwestern Metro Atlanta counties. This is the school that pushed back its startup for football 3 times. Money will be an issue. Alumni support will be an issue. Like I said, Mercer announced way after Kennesaw and has since left them in the dust.

We heard the argument for years that South Alabama and Georgia State were "commuter schools". So now you want to use the same argument against KSU.

Mercer is a private school with 8300 students. No thank you.

Kennesaw State is the choice or are you worried that would be one more loss on the GA State schedule. Come on there is room for one more.

Argument vs truth. Big difference fella. And I am not proposing Mercer either. I am saying, how can you propose a program that is < Mercer. LOL.

I am not worried about Kennesaw. By the time we are done with a couple of recruiting classes, building our football weight room and IPF, Kennesaw will be trying to figure out how to get to 15k seats. Not in the same category as us in any way shape or fashion.

I can safely say that some of the Ga State folks are some of the most delusional fans i've ever come across.

(12-12-2013 02:24 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  I can safely say that some of the Ga State folks are some of the most delusional fans i've ever come across.

Explain what I have said that is delusional?

(12-12-2013 12:01 PM)Jacque Wrote:  Any mention of FGCU is many years down the road.
And by that time who knows what the conference affiliations will be?
However, I believe FGCU will be a viable and good addition for some conference. It is located in a football-crazy state, it is located in a relatively wealthy area which should help with funding, it is at least 2 hours from any other football playing universities (USF, FIU, FAU, UM) and is enjoying pretty good support for its current sports from the community. Also, there a lot of very good local area athletes within 50 miles of campus. Not saying that they would have chosen FGCU over their current schools if they had the choice, but when you have talent like MacKenzie Alexander, Sammy Watkins, Mike Heuerman, Jayron Kearse, Dallas Crawford, Deadrin Senat, Mario Pender and Jordan Diggs, to name a few, in your backyard, you have the chance to do well.
FGCU to SBC in 2020

FGCU may be in a "relatively wealthy area" but its also located in the foreclosure capital of the Eastern US filled with aging retirees from the Midwest who are not being replaced by new retirees. Cape Coral (across the river from Ft Myers) is the dumpiest "nice" town I've ever been to - filled with blocks and blocks of abandoned homes, vacant lots, and squatters; with an entire economy based on out of work construction workers and senior health care workers.

Well I am sold.

(12-12-2013 02:57 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(12-12-2013 12:01 PM)Jacque Wrote:  Any mention of FGCU is many years down the road.
And by that time who knows what the conference affiliations will be?
However, I believe FGCU will be a viable and good addition for some conference. It is located in a football-crazy state, it is located in a relatively wealthy area which should help with funding, it is at least 2 hours from any other football playing universities (USF, FIU, FAU, UM) and is enjoying pretty good support for its current sports from the community. Also, there a lot of very good local area athletes within 50 miles of campus. Not saying that they would have chosen FGCU over their current schools if they had the choice, but when you have talent like MacKenzie Alexander, Sammy Watkins, Mike Heuerman, Jayron Kearse, Dallas Crawford, Deadrin Senat, Mario Pender and Jordan Diggs, to name a few, in your backyard, you have the chance to do well.
FGCU to SBC in 2020

FGCU may be in a "relatively wealthy area" but its also located in the foreclosure capital of the Eastern US filled with aging retirees from the Midwest who are not being replaced by new retirees. Cape Coral (across the river from Ft Myers) is the dumpiest "nice" town I've ever been to - filled with blocks and blocks of abandoned homes, vacant lots, and squatters; with an entire economy based on out of work construction workers and senior health care workers.

" filled with blocks and blocks of abandoned homes, vacant lots, and squatters; with an entire economy based on out of work construction workers and senior health care workers."

You just described the national economy.

(12-13-2013 04:52 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(12-12-2013 02:57 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(12-12-2013 12:01 PM)Jacque Wrote:  Any mention of FGCU is many years down the road.
And by that time who knows what the conference affiliations will be?
However, I believe FGCU will be a viable and good addition for some conference. It is located in a football-crazy state, it is located in a relatively wealthy area which should help with funding, it is at least 2 hours from any other football playing universities (USF, FIU, FAU, UM) and is enjoying pretty good support for its current sports from the community. Also, there a lot of very good local area athletes within 50 miles of campus. Not saying that they would have chosen FGCU over their current schools if they had the choice, but when you have talent like MacKenzie Alexander, Sammy Watkins, Mike Heuerman, Jayron Kearse, Dallas Crawford, Deadrin Senat, Mario Pender and Jordan Diggs, to name a few, in your backyard, you have the chance to do well.
FGCU to SBC in 2020

FGCU may be in a "relatively wealthy area" but its also located in the foreclosure capital of the Eastern US filled with aging retirees from the Midwest who are not being replaced by new retirees. Cape Coral (across the river from Ft Myers) is the dumpiest "nice" town I've ever been to - filled with blocks and blocks of abandoned homes, vacant lots, and squatters; with an entire economy based on out of work construction workers and senior health care workers.

" filled with blocks and blocks of abandoned homes, vacant lots, and squatters; with an entire economy based on out of work construction workers and senior health care workers."

You just described the national economy.

Plenty of places where that isnt true.

(12-12-2013 02:57 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(12-12-2013 12:01 PM)Jacque Wrote:  Any mention of FGCU is many years down the road.
And by that time who knows what the conference affiliations will be?
However, I believe FGCU will be a viable and good addition for some conference. It is located in a football-crazy state, it is located in a relatively wealthy area which should help with funding, it is at least 2 hours from any other football playing universities (USF, FIU, FAU, UM) and is enjoying pretty good support for its current sports from the community. Also, there a lot of very good local area athletes within 50 miles of campus. Not saying that they would have chosen FGCU over their current schools if they had the choice, but when you have talent like MacKenzie Alexander, Sammy Watkins, Mike Heuerman, Jayron Kearse, Dallas Crawford, Deadrin Senat, Mario Pender and Jordan Diggs, to name a few, in your backyard, you have the chance to do well.
FGCU to SBC in 2020

FGCU may be in a "relatively wealthy area" but its also located in the foreclosure capital of the Eastern US filled with aging retirees from the Midwest who are not being replaced by new retirees. Cape Coral (across the river from Ft Myers) is the dumpiest "nice" town I've ever been to - filled with blocks and blocks of abandoned homes, vacant lots, and squatters; with an entire economy based on out of work construction workers and senior health care workers.

The economy down there is picking up again. Foreclosures to a large extent were based on failures of banks, not necesarrily failure of individuals. But that is another topic for another day. All retirees are aging but the movement south slowed several years ago.
A family friend is in the business of designing and installing commercial kitchens in restaurants and is currently swamped so apparently business is picking up in the area.
One thing about an economy built on retirees is there are a lot of doctors and lawyers who have disposable income.
I did not want to get into a discussion about the economy of SW FL, however, I like the fact that you know a little of what you are talking about as so many posters spout rumors and cliches that they heard at the barber shop.
As I lived within 60 miles of Ft Myers for over 50 years, I to have a little knowledge of the area as well.

(12-13-2013 04:54 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-13-2013 04:52 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(12-12-2013 02:57 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(12-12-2013 12:01 PM)Jacque Wrote:  Any mention of FGCU is many years down the road.
And by that time who knows what the conference affiliations will be?
However, I believe FGCU will be a viable and good addition for some conference. It is located in a football-crazy state, it is located in a relatively wealthy area which should help with funding, it is at least 2 hours from any other football playing universities (USF, FIU, FAU, UM) and is enjoying pretty good support for its current sports from the community. Also, there a lot of very good local area athletes within 50 miles of campus. Not saying that they would have chosen FGCU over their current schools if they had the choice, but when you have talent like MacKenzie Alexander, Sammy Watkins, Mike Heuerman, Jayron Kearse, Dallas Crawford, Deadrin Senat, Mario Pender and Jordan Diggs, to name a few, in your backyard, you have the chance to do well.
FGCU to SBC in 2020

FGCU may be in a "relatively wealthy area" but its also located in the foreclosure capital of the Eastern US filled with aging retirees from the Midwest who are not being replaced by new retirees. Cape Coral (across the river from Ft Myers) is the dumpiest "nice" town I've ever been to - filled with blocks and blocks of abandoned homes, vacant lots, and squatters; with an entire economy based on out of work construction workers and senior health care workers.

" filled with blocks and blocks of abandoned homes, vacant lots, and squatters; with an entire economy based on out of work construction workers and senior health care workers."

You just described the national economy.

Plenty of places where that isnt true.

Including Ft Myers and Naples. Anyone who thinks the economy of SW FL is doomed to failure is insane.

(12-12-2013 10:53 AM)txstatebobcat Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 11:50 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 02:05 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 01:04 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 12:53 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  I dunno about JMU bolting. It's been like pulling teeth to get the admin to even discuss leaving the CAA. Plus, Harrisonburg isn't a big market. If JMU goes Sun Belt, the only way you'll see them leave is if the Sun Belt disbands.

Would like to have JMU in the Sun Belt, but anyone reading the MAC board can see the same attitude that JMU administrators seem to have about academics being much more of a consideration than most conferences would be concerned with. Makes a lot of people think that JMU will go MAC if they ever decide to expand.

JMU will not be going to the MAC. The only option for JMU is the Sun Belt and it doesn't look like the admin wants to do that despite many fans insisting to just join an FBS conference already. I actually think JMU is going to keep holding out hoping for an offer that will not be coming. In a few years, JMU might not even be in these discussions anymore.

That's the impression I get from JMU folkos I hear from. A lot are worried that they will miss the SBC window and no other options will come along.

There is a strong chance of that happening IMO. Everyone agrees that JMU would be a great get, but I'm sure that patience is running out.

"everyone" doesnt agree any such thing..they would be better than nothing to just ok.

I can assure you that when we are in a position to move, the stadium renovations will happen, arena renovations WILL happen., and will probably happen anyway.
All the wku nay sayers have no idea what we can/will do. A lot of the negativity is EKU hating.
We now have a progressive President and Board of Regents that are behind this and over all improvement of the university (we have had presidents for the past 25 who have done nothing).

Get Ur Done, then call.