Someone correct this if it is wrong. 9 bowl eligible teams in SBC next year. 3 guaranteed bowls: Camelia, New Orleans and GoDaddy.

Is there any back up bowl for next year?

Not unless the Pizza Bowl still exists. I'm less concerned about placing bowl eligible teams next year. More bowls = more access. And there will 10 more spots available.

(12-05-2013 01:05 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Someone correct this if it is wrong. 9 bowl eligible teams in SBC next year. 3 guaranteed bowls: Camelia, New Orleans and GoDaddy.

Is there any back up bowl for next year?

Get used to this:
ULL - New Orleans Bowl (all they need is 6 wins)
ASU,Troy, USA - Mobile (regardless of record, 6 wins or more)
Everyone else + 2 from Mobile pool, will play for 1 spot

Have fun App St, Ga Southern...

(12-05-2013 08:57 PM)CrushMI Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 01:05 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Someone correct this if it is wrong. 9 bowl eligible teams in SBC next year. 3 guaranteed bowls: Camelia, New Orleans and GoDaddy.

Is there any back up bowl for next year?

Get used to this:
ULL - New Orleans Bowl (all they need is 6 wins)
ASU,Troy, USA - Mobile (regardless of record, 6 wins or more)
Everyone else + 2 from Mobile pool, will play for 1 spot

Have fun App St, Ga Southern...

Go Daddy is not just going to take one of three teams. That bowl is actually well run. If another school can sell tickets, they'll get a chance at the game.

Yup, I gotta say that the situation regarding teams going to the same bowl year after year is concerning. I don't care what the greedy bowls want, the SBC's job should be to reward the best performing team in the postseason.

(12-05-2013 09:04 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Yup, I gotta say that the situation regarding teams going to the same bowl year after year is concerning. I don't care what the greedy bowls want, the SBC's job should be to reward the best performing team in the postseason.

My guess is that there will be a push to change the by laws for next season so this issue doesn't happen again. We'll go to a more sensible system where Go Daddy and New Orleans will rotate who gets the first pick. That's closer to the way the MAC runs things. Only their champ is guaranteed a bowl, but they rotate the top pick amongst different bowls so you don't run into a situation where teams always go to the same place.

Throw in that we'll have more bowls next year, so this year's crazy 7 teams aren't going to bowls scenario wont happen again.

Not to mention I think the playoff craze is going to catch on very quickly, I know the current playoff contract is through 2025. I will personally be VERY surprised if it doesn't expand before then once if not twice to allow for spots for G5 teams, which will change the bowl landscape a bit too. Only time will tell.

It becomes concerning with so many new teams that haven't been to a Bowl and, therefore, they haven't a clue how tickets sales would go.
If they don't invite "worthy" teams to find out how they fare something had better change.

(12-05-2013 09:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 09:04 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Yup, I gotta say that the situation regarding teams going to the same bowl year after year is concerning. I don't care what the greedy bowls want, the SBC's job should be to reward the best performing team in the postseason.

My guess is that there will be a push to change the by laws for next season so this issue doesn't happen again. We'll go to a more sensible system where Go Daddy and New Orleans will rotate who gets the first pick. That's closer to the way the MAC runs things. Only their champ is guaranteed a bowl, but they rotate the top pick amongst different bowls so you don't run into a situation where teams always go to the same place.

Throw in that we'll have more bowls next year, so this year's crazy 7 teams aren't going to bowls scenario wont happen again.

Yeah its great that UL can sell tickets in their backyard but if they don't finish top 3 (since 3 bowls next year) then they should only get at large.

(12-05-2013 09:46 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 09:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 09:04 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Yup, I gotta say that the situation regarding teams going to the same bowl year after year is concerning. I don't care what the greedy bowls want, the SBC's job should be to reward the best performing team in the postseason.

My guess is that there will be a push to change the by laws for next season so this issue doesn't happen again. We'll go to a more sensible system where Go Daddy and New Orleans will rotate who gets the first pick. That's closer to the way the MAC runs things. Only their champ is guaranteed a bowl, but they rotate the top pick amongst different bowls so you don't run into a situation where teams always go to the same place.

Throw in that we'll have more bowls next year, so this year's crazy 7 teams aren't going to bowls scenario wont happen again.

Yeah its great that UL can sell tickets in their backyard but if they don't finish top 3 (since 3 bowls next year) then they should only get at large.

I don't mind leaving the option for one of the three primaries to take a non Top three team...but the idea that 2nd place could get left out is pretty concerning.

I guess regional bowls make sense. Its why Texas St will get shots at HOD and Armed Forces if they are open.

(12-05-2013 08:57 PM)CrushMI Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 01:05 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Someone correct this if it is wrong. 9 bowl eligible teams in SBC next year. 3 guaranteed bowls: Camelia, New Orleans and GoDaddy.

Is there any back up bowl for next year?

Get used to this:
ULL - New Orleans Bowl (all they need is 6 wins)
ASU,Troy, USA - Mobile (regardless of record, 6 wins or more)
Everyone else + 2 from Mobile pool, will play for 1 spot

Have fun App St, Ga Southern...

Not next year.

Next year, we have 3 tie ins for 9 fully bowl eligible teams. Bowls in Mobile, Montgomery and New Orleans. Additionally, with 10 extra slots beyond the Montgomery bowl, its pretty much a lock for every bowl eligible team to go bowling.

I'll have to see the way the trading around the ESPN bowls works out but it looks like the SBC just got an upgrade in their bowl situation.

Nice try.

(12-05-2013 09:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 09:04 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Yup, I gotta say that the situation regarding teams going to the same bowl year after year is concerning. I don't care what the greedy bowls want, the SBC's job should be to reward the best performing team in the postseason.

My guess is that there will be a push to change the by laws for next season so this issue doesn't happen again. We'll go to a more sensible system where Go Daddy and New Orleans will rotate who gets the first pick. That's closer to the way the MAC runs things. Only their champ is guaranteed a bowl, but they rotate the top pick amongst different bowls so you don't run into a situation where teams always go to the same place.

Throw in that we'll have more bowls next year, so this year's crazy 7 teams aren't going to bowls scenario wont happen again.

The GDB doesn't want to have the same team over and over again. In this case, I'm glad they took ASU over WKU.

(12-05-2013 09:53 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 08:57 PM)CrushMI Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 01:05 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Someone correct this if it is wrong. 9 bowl eligible teams in SBC next year. 3 guaranteed bowls: Camelia, New Orleans and GoDaddy.

Is there any back up bowl for next year?

Get used to this:
ULL - New Orleans Bowl (all they need is 6 wins)
ASU,Troy, USA - Mobile (regardless of record, 6 wins or more)
Everyone else + 2 from Mobile pool, will play for 1 spot

Have fun App St, Ga Southern...

Not next year.

Next year, we have 3 tie ins for 9 fully bowl eligible teams. Bowls in Mobile, Montgomery and New Orleans. Additionally, with 10 extra slots beyond the Montgomery bowl, its pretty much a lock for every bowl eligible team to go bowling.

I'll have to see the way the trading around the ESPN bowls works out but it looks like the SBC just got an upgrade in their bowl situation.

Nice try.

That is worth noting. We have only 9 eligible next year, and odds are that Ga State, NMSU, and Idaho will have a hard time getting 6 wins anyway. That means the other 6 teams will have improved bowl odds.

While its not great, it gives the conference time to possibly find another bowl for 2015.

(12-05-2013 09:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 09:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 09:04 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Yup, I gotta say that the situation regarding teams going to the same bowl year after year is concerning. I don't care what the greedy bowls want, the SBC's job should be to reward the best performing team in the postseason.

My guess is that there will be a push to change the by laws for next season so this issue doesn't happen again. We'll go to a more sensible system where Go Daddy and New Orleans will rotate who gets the first pick. That's closer to the way the MAC runs things. Only their champ is guaranteed a bowl, but they rotate the top pick amongst different bowls so you don't run into a situation where teams always go to the same place.

Throw in that we'll have more bowls next year, so this year's crazy 7 teams aren't going to bowls scenario wont happen again.

The GDB doesn't want to have the same team over and over again. In this case, I'm glad they took ASU over WKU.

The only bowl that appears comfortable taking the same team over and over is New Orleans. I am glad the Go Daddy took ASU this year, but at some point we're going to go somewhere else.

Hence why I think we should go ahead and re work our by laws so New Orleans is not always the first pick. At least give another bowl a chance to take the Cajuns before NO can pick. Especially since NO is trading us out in 2019 for a bit anyway, and Go Daddy has not once traded us.

(12-05-2013 09:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 09:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 09:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 09:04 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Yup, I gotta say that the situation regarding teams going to the same bowl year after year is concerning. I don't care what the greedy bowls want, the SBC's job should be to reward the best performing team in the postseason.

My guess is that there will be a push to change the by laws for next season so this issue doesn't happen again. We'll go to a more sensible system where Go Daddy and New Orleans will rotate who gets the first pick. That's closer to the way the MAC runs things. Only their champ is guaranteed a bowl, but they rotate the top pick amongst different bowls so you don't run into a situation where teams always go to the same place.

Throw in that we'll have more bowls next year, so this year's crazy 7 teams aren't going to bowls scenario wont happen again.

The GDB doesn't want to have the same team over and over again. In this case, I'm glad they took ASU over WKU.

The only bowl that appears comfortable taking the same team over and over is New Orleans. I am glad the Go Daddy took ASU this year, but at some point we're going to go somewhere else.

Hence why I think we should go ahead and re work our by laws so New Orleans is not always the first pick. At least give another bowl a chance to take the Cajuns before NO can pick. Especially since NO is trading us out in 2019 for a bit anyway, and Go Daddy has not once traded us.

ESPN decided to switch around some of the matchups on the bowls they own. I don't think it represents some sort of snub by them.

(12-05-2013 10:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 09:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 09:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 09:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 09:04 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Yup, I gotta say that the situation regarding teams going to the same bowl year after year is concerning. I don't care what the greedy bowls want, the SBC's job should be to reward the best performing team in the postseason.

My guess is that there will be a push to change the by laws for next season so this issue doesn't happen again. We'll go to a more sensible system where Go Daddy and New Orleans will rotate who gets the first pick. That's closer to the way the MAC runs things. Only their champ is guaranteed a bowl, but they rotate the top pick amongst different bowls so you don't run into a situation where teams always go to the same place.

Throw in that we'll have more bowls next year, so this year's crazy 7 teams aren't going to bowls scenario wont happen again.

The GDB doesn't want to have the same team over and over again. In this case, I'm glad they took ASU over WKU.

The only bowl that appears comfortable taking the same team over and over is New Orleans. I am glad the Go Daddy took ASU this year, but at some point we're going to go somewhere else.

Hence why I think we should go ahead and re work our by laws so New Orleans is not always the first pick. At least give another bowl a chance to take the Cajuns before NO can pick. Especially since NO is trading us out in 2019 for a bit anyway, and Go Daddy has not once traded us.

ESPN decided to switch around some of the matchups on the bowls they own. I don't think it represents some sort of snub by them.

I didn't realize ESPN owned New Orleans. I thought the GNOSF still owned it.

Either Way, we need to be nurturing the Go Daddy bowl as best as possible. Keep bringing strong crowds, and we'll get an extension in 2017. They are a rarity. A healthy G5 bowl that is not run by ESPN.

It is a good thing that the SBC has seen a big increase in the number of bowl eligible teams the last 2 years. It has sort of outstripped the bowl opportunities. But I agree with Chiefsfan next year there are 10 more bowl spots and we are adding the 3rd guaranteed bowl for a SBC team and the problem of lack of opportunity for SBC bowl-eligible teams will be largely eliminated.

If you think of it in the not-to-distant past the SBC has had so few bowl eligible teams that the guaranteed spots were very low and there really was not that much need for backup deals. I am very glad that is changing.

Starting in 2015 with 11 teams (and possibly 12) I think it is a very safe bet that the SBC will have at least 5 eligible teams every year and possibly 7-8. So if we can get 1 more guaranteed bowl to get to 4 and have a couple of backups we probably are going to be in good shape.