UL has great fan support and the NO Bowl has in the last 2 years experienced a shock wave from the Cajuns being there---can you imagine going from about 22K to almost 50K, which by the way, was probably 95% Cajun fans----a University selling more than most of the BIG 5 conferences in the country of their ticket allotment-----If the right team would have been guaranteed for the Indy Bowl we might have taken it but with the date, the possible weather conditions, and S-Port compared to NO---It surely becomes the classic NO BRAINER---Add to this that last year and I imagine this year, the Cajuns wouldn't be compensated for their extra fans ticket sales or given the type of seating that the NO Bowl gives us---Can you possibly see our point???? Also add that the money that UL generates was shared by covering your asses of expense occurred!!! Please tell me where selfishness stars or ends and common sense prevails!!!!

(12-01-2013 01:00 PM)exflash Wrote:  UL has great fan support and the NO Bowl has in the last 2 years experienced a shock wave from the Cajuns being there---can you imagine going from about 22K to almost 50K, which by the way, was probably 95% Cajun fans----a University selling more than most of the BIG 5 conferences in the country of their ticket allotment-----If the right team would have been guaranteed for the Indy Bowl we might have taken it but with the date, the possible weather conditions, and S-Port compared to NO---It surely becomes the classic NO BRAINER---Add to this that last year and I imagine this year, the Cajuns wouldn't be compensated for their extra fans ticket sales or given the type of seating that the NO Bowl gives us---Can you possibly see our point???? Also add that the money that UL generates was shared by covering your asses of expense occurred!!! Please tell me where selfishness stars or ends and common sense prevails!!!!

We don't really see the logic of it. But that doesn't matter. You have clinched a share, you beat the #2 team in their place. You have the right to figure out what's best for your own program even if we can't see the reason in it. You don't have to justify it to anyone. Congrats and enjoy.

(12-01-2013 09:27 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Yeah, well I heard Miss Universe has the hots for me but I'm not quite sure I should believe the rumor yet.

Again, instead of getting all twisted off at the Cajuns, wouldn't it be more productive for stAte fans to encourage their team to win more games so that they didn't have to depend on anyone else to assure them a bowl game? Just sayin'.

If what you heard was true... Miss Universe has some splaining to do to me! She's been ALL over my... pews.

In regards to the bowl situation... I hate it. Being basically the outlier (I discount NMSU & Idaho because I honestly believe it will take them several years to get their house in order to compete for eligibility), we're hosed every year.

Makes total sense for the NOLA bowl to want the Cajuns. They are close. They travel great to the bowl. They always make it a fun time. I can't blame them for wanting the Cajuns, regardless of the conference champ.

The Go Daddy Bowl is a similar deal for Troy and USA. While USA doesn't have a history of traveling well, it will stand to reason that they will given their closeness to the bowl, and solid attendance at home.

That leaves Texas State kinda the odd man out where our most promising shot at a bowl is winning conference.

Given the strength of the conference, it's a tough road for us. Other teams as well, but I'm concerned with us right now.

Having said all that, we don't deserve a bowl (didn't really deserve a bowl even if we had beat Troy either) so for this year, it's kinda moot.

(12-01-2013 01:00 PM)exflash Wrote:  UL has great fan support and the NO Bowl has in the last 2 years experienced a shock wave from the Cajuns being there---can you imagine going from about 22K to almost 50K, which by the way, was probably 95% Cajun fans----a University selling more than most of the BIG 5 conferences in the country of their ticket allotment-----If the right team would have been guaranteed for the Indy Bowl we might have taken it but with the date, the possible weather conditions, and S-Port compared to NO---It surely becomes the classic NO BRAINER---Add to this that last year and I imagine this year, the Cajuns wouldn't be compensated for their extra fans ticket sales or given the type of seating that the NO Bowl gives us---Can you possibly see our point???? Also add that the money that UL generates was shared by covering your asses of expense occurred!!! Please tell me where selfishness stars or ends and common sense prevails!!!!

We see the point, and no one is questioning that you are the champ and all that, although I think it looks a little silly that it seems like ULL has their own bowl. I just thought we had each other's backs, that's all, instead I see ULL fans supporting a defector. Yeah, yeah, I know, we'd all jump at the chance yada yada. I for one have supported ULL all along, saying you deserved all the accolades and represented the Belt well. I've even called your sorry a**es Louisiana, like you wanted. Yeah, you wanted us to lose so you'd have sole possession of 1st place. Got it. But you all come over here making a public display of supporting WKU and have been all along. I hope you do get an invite to a watered-down CUSA and join your buddies, then ASU, ULM, Troy, USA, and the rest of us can get on with trying to make OUR conference what we all know it can be.

It's not all of the ULL fans.....just a few knuckleheads.

(12-01-2013 01:31 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  It's not all of the ULL fans.....just a few knuckleheads.

Ok, I digress. But from now on, as far as I'm concerned, UL is in Monroe! Take that Cajuns!

(12-01-2013 12:18 PM)slappycajun Wrote:  Can someone please tell me how and when we turned down the New Orleans bowl, and how that screws stAte.

And, if the I-Bowl was willing to take the Cajuns, why aren't they willing to take stAte?

I've had multiple sources tied to both ULL and ASU tell me the same story. When Florida lost last week, the Independence Bowl was released by the SEC contingent on a 2nd BCS team being placed. Latest BCS Standings showed 3 SEC Teams in the top 5...and games against each other ensured that at least two would stay there.

When that happened, The Independence Bowl called ULL to tell the Cajuns they were the front runner, and to check interest. Hudspeth wanted to play in the Independence Bowl, but Farmer went with the wishes of a good portion of the Cajun fan base and withdrew their name from I Bowl consideration.

When that happened, the sponsporship for the bowl decided on picking up an open PAC 12 team if one is available for better TV ratings. The bowl would have taken ULL over TV ratings because of the crazy high ticket sales potential...but that same guarantee does not exist for ASU.

UL has no obligation to overrule their own desires to cover for us. Would we turn down a Liberty Bowl invite to go to GoDaddy instead if it would help UL? Hell no.

They want to go to New Orleans, they chose New Orleans. They deserve to go where they want.

(12-01-2013 02:17 AM)gostAte870 Wrote:  Wonder if our Cajun "brothers" at least put a good word in for us as they shut the door in the faces of the Indy Bowl reps

Here's an honest question for you, what exactly did UL turn down? They were not offered anything concrete in discussions on seating and payout. So please by all means give us something specific that UL has supposedly turned down?

(12-01-2013 01:46 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 12:18 PM)slappycajun Wrote:  Can someone please tell me how and when we turned down the New Orleans bowl, and how that screws stAte.

And, if the I-Bowl was willing to take the Cajuns, why aren't they willing to take stAte?

I've had multiple sources tied to both ULL and ASU tell me the same story. When Florida lost last week, the Independence Bowl was released by the SEC contingent on a 2nd BCS team being placed. Latest BCS Standings showed 3 SEC Teams in the top 5...and games against each other ensured that at least two would stay there.

When that happened, The Independence Bowl called ULL to tell the Cajuns they were the front runner, and to check interest. Hudspeth wanted to play in the Independence Bowl, but Farmer went with the wishes of a good portion of the Cajun fan base and withdrew their name from I Bowl consideration.

When that happened, the sponsporship for the bowl decided on picking up an open PAC 12 team if one is available for better TV ratings. The bowl would have taken ULL over TV ratings because of the crazy high ticket sales potential...but that same guarantee does not exist for ASU.

Were they willing to make an official offer last night when the NO Bowl was in place?

(12-01-2013 01:25 PM)The Howling Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:00 PM)exflash Wrote:  UL has great fan support and the NO Bowl has in the last 2 years experienced a shock wave from the Cajuns being there---can you imagine going from about 22K to almost 50K, which by the way, was probably 95% Cajun fans----a University selling more than most of the BIG 5 conferences in the country of their ticket allotment-----If the right team would have been guaranteed for the Indy Bowl we might have taken it but with the date, the possible weather conditions, and S-Port compared to NO---It surely becomes the classic NO BRAINER---Add to this that last year and I imagine this year, the Cajuns wouldn't be compensated for their extra fans ticket sales or given the type of seating that the NO Bowl gives us---Can you possibly see our point???? Also add that the money that UL generates was shared by covering your asses of expense occurred!!! Please tell me where selfishness stars or ends and common sense prevails!!!!

We see the point, and no one is questioning that you are the champ and all that, although I think it looks a little silly that it seems like ULL has their own bowl. I just thought we had each other's backs, that's all, instead I see ULL fans supporting a defector. Yeah, yeah, I know, we'd all jump at the chance yada yada. I for one have supported ULL all along, saying you deserved all the accolades and represented the Belt well. I've even called your sorry a**es Louisiana, like you wanted. Yeah, you wanted us to lose so you'd have sole possession of 1st place. Got it. But you all come over here making a public display of supporting WKU and have been all along. I hope you do get an invite to a watered-down CUSA and join your buddies, then ASU, ULM, Troy, USA, and the rest of us can get on with trying to make OUR conference what we all know it can be.

Okay, this is where I draw the line. UL is supposed to have ASU's back? I'm sorry, I find this statement ironic when your program wasn't concerned about our request to call us Louisiana. I can understand State fans disappointment, but this really is a load of crap in my book. Have your backs, when a large number of your fans support ULM over UL at every opportunity? We've gotten a first hand look how State has our back, joining ULM in sticking a knife in it.

(12-01-2013 01:59 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:46 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 12:18 PM)slappycajun Wrote:  Can someone please tell me how and when we turned down the New Orleans bowl, and how that screws stAte.

And, if the I-Bowl was willing to take the Cajuns, why aren't they willing to take stAte?

I've had multiple sources tied to both ULL and ASU tell me the same story. When Florida lost last week, the Independence Bowl was released by the SEC contingent on a 2nd BCS team being placed. Latest BCS Standings showed 3 SEC Teams in the top 5...and games against each other ensured that at least two would stay there.

When that happened, The Independence Bowl called ULL to tell the Cajuns they were the front runner, and to check interest. Hudspeth wanted to play in the Independence Bowl, but Farmer went with the wishes of a good portion of the Cajun fan base and withdrew their name from I Bowl consideration.

When that happened, the sponsporship for the bowl decided on picking up an open PAC 12 team if one is available for better TV ratings. The bowl would have taken ULL over TV ratings because of the crazy high ticket sales potential...but that same guarantee does not exist for ASU.

Were they willing to make an official offer last night when the NO Bowl was in place?

They appeared to have the same timeline as the NO Bowl. Could have offered officially after the Iron Bowl ended.

(12-01-2013 02:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:59 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:46 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 12:18 PM)slappycajun Wrote:  Can someone please tell me how and when we turned down the New Orleans bowl, and how that screws stAte.

And, if the I-Bowl was willing to take the Cajuns, why aren't they willing to take stAte?

I've had multiple sources tied to both ULL and ASU tell me the same story. When Florida lost last week, the Independence Bowl was released by the SEC contingent on a 2nd BCS team being placed. Latest BCS Standings showed 3 SEC Teams in the top 5...and games against each other ensured that at least two would stay there.

When that happened, The Independence Bowl called ULL to tell the Cajuns they were the front runner, and to check interest. Hudspeth wanted to play in the Independence Bowl, but Farmer went with the wishes of a good portion of the Cajun fan base and withdrew their name from I Bowl consideration.

When that happened, the sponsporship for the bowl decided on picking up an open PAC 12 team if one is available for better TV ratings. The bowl would have taken ULL over TV ratings because of the crazy high ticket sales potential...but that same guarantee does not exist for ASU.

Were they willing to make an official offer last night when the NO Bowl was in place?

They appeared to have the same timeline as the NO Bowl. Could have offered officially after the Iron Bowl ended.

Appeared?...But you are not certain right? You see, I know Farmer is a complete F$%^up, but I still see no evidence that the Indy was ready to make an official offer Saturday. Also, I've heard nothing specific as to what UL was offered in seating or payout.

(12-01-2013 02:05 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:25 PM)The Howling Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:00 PM)exflash Wrote:  UL has great fan support and the NO Bowl has in the last 2 years experienced a shock wave from the Cajuns being there---can you imagine going from about 22K to almost 50K, which by the way, was probably 95% Cajun fans----a University selling more than most of the BIG 5 conferences in the country of their ticket allotment-----If the right team would have been guaranteed for the Indy Bowl we might have taken it but with the date, the possible weather conditions, and S-Port compared to NO---It surely becomes the classic NO BRAINER---Add to this that last year and I imagine this year, the Cajuns wouldn't be compensated for their extra fans ticket sales or given the type of seating that the NO Bowl gives us---Can you possibly see our point???? Also add that the money that UL generates was shared by covering your asses of expense occurred!!! Please tell me where selfishness stars or ends and common sense prevails!!!!

We see the point, and no one is questioning that you are the champ and all that, although I think it looks a little silly that it seems like ULL has their own bowl. I just thought we had each other's backs, that's all, instead I see ULL fans supporting a defector. Yeah, yeah, I know, we'd all jump at the chance yada yada. I for one have supported ULL all along, saying you deserved all the accolades and represented the Belt well. I've even called your sorry a**es Louisiana, like you wanted. Yeah, you wanted us to lose so you'd have sole possession of 1st place. Got it. But you all come over here making a public display of supporting WKU and have been all along. I hope you do get an invite to a watered-down CUSA and join your buddies, then ASU, ULM, Troy, USA, and the rest of us can get on with trying to make OUR conference what we all know it can be.

Okay, this is where I draw the line. UL is supposed to have ASU's back? I'm sorry, I find this statement ironic when your program wasn't concerned about our request to call us Louisiana. I can understand State fans disappointment, but this really is a load of crap in my book. Have your backs, when a large number of your fans support ULM over UL at every opportunity? We've gotten a first hand look how State has our back, joining ULM in sticking a knife in it.

UL has no obligation to put aside their own bowl preference to help ASU. I can assure you that we would not pass on a Liberty Bowl offer just to help UL get a bowl.

You don't have to justify your bowl preferences to ANYONE. Congrats and enjoy.

(12-01-2013 02:05 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:25 PM)The Howling Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:00 PM)exflash Wrote:  UL has great fan support and the NO Bowl has in the last 2 years experienced a shock wave from the Cajuns being there---can you imagine going from about 22K to almost 50K, which by the way, was probably 95% Cajun fans----a University selling more than most of the BIG 5 conferences in the country of their ticket allotment-----If the right team would have been guaranteed for the Indy Bowl we might have taken it but with the date, the possible weather conditions, and S-Port compared to NO---It surely becomes the classic NO BRAINER---Add to this that last year and I imagine this year, the Cajuns wouldn't be compensated for their extra fans ticket sales or given the type of seating that the NO Bowl gives us---Can you possibly see our point???? Also add that the money that UL generates was shared by covering your asses of expense occurred!!! Please tell me where selfishness stars or ends and common sense prevails!!!!

We see the point, and no one is questioning that you are the champ and all that, although I think it looks a little silly that it seems like ULL has their own bowl. I just thought we had each other's backs, that's all, instead I see ULL fans supporting a defector. Yeah, yeah, I know, we'd all jump at the chance yada yada. I for one have supported ULL all along, saying you deserved all the accolades and represented the Belt well. I've even called your sorry a**es Louisiana, like you wanted. Yeah, you wanted us to lose so you'd have sole possession of 1st place. Got it. But you all come over here making a public display of supporting WKU and have been all along. I hope you do get an invite to a watered-down CUSA and join your buddies, then ASU, ULM, Troy, USA, and the rest of us can get on with trying to make OUR conference what we all know it can be.

Okay, this is where I draw the line. UL is supposed to have ASU's back? I'm sorry, I find this statement ironic when your program wasn't concerned about our request to call us Louisiana. I can understand State fans disappointment, but this really is a load of crap in my book. Have your backs, when a large number of your fans support ULM over UL at every opportunity? We've gotten a first hand look how State has our back, joining ULM in sticking a knife in it.

If this is true, than someone other than ASU is going to get screwed. Texas State, Troy, ULM and potentially USA are likely to be left out of the bowl scenario because of the conferences two current bowl tie-ins when a third would have been available if the Indy Bowl did indeed offer the Cajuns.

(12-01-2013 02:09 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 02:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:59 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:46 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 12:18 PM)slappycajun Wrote:  Can someone please tell me how and when we turned down the New Orleans bowl, and how that screws stAte.

And, if the I-Bowl was willing to take the Cajuns, why aren't they willing to take stAte?

I've had multiple sources tied to both ULL and ASU tell me the same story. When Florida lost last week, the Independence Bowl was released by the SEC contingent on a 2nd BCS team being placed. Latest BCS Standings showed 3 SEC Teams in the top 5...and games against each other ensured that at least two would stay there.

When that happened, The Independence Bowl called ULL to tell the Cajuns they were the front runner, and to check interest. Hudspeth wanted to play in the Independence Bowl, but Farmer went with the wishes of a good portion of the Cajun fan base and withdrew their name from I Bowl consideration.

When that happened, the sponsporship for the bowl decided on picking up an open PAC 12 team if one is available for better TV ratings. The bowl would have taken ULL over TV ratings because of the crazy high ticket sales potential...but that same guarantee does not exist for ASU.

Were they willing to make an official offer last night when the NO Bowl was in place?

They appeared to have the same timeline as the NO Bowl. Could have offered officially after the Iron Bowl ended.

Appeared?...But you are not certain right? You see, I know Farmer is a complete F$%^up, but I still see no evidence that the Indy was ready to make an official offer Saturday. Also, I've heard nothing specific as to what UL was offered in seating or payout.

It has to do with odds. The Independence Bowl would be a lock to be open if MSU had lost Thursday, or if the Iron Bowl ended in a close game.

Had ULL said they were interested midweek,...my guess is that you would then have entered the negotiation stage and finalized payout and everything. No Negotiations were entered because you guys said no.

Assuming nothing screwy happened in the SEC this week and the negotiations between the school, league,. and bowl didn't fall apart before Saturday, they would have been on hand to send an invite after the game.

(12-01-2013 02:11 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 02:05 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:25 PM)The Howling Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:00 PM)exflash Wrote:  UL has great fan support and the NO Bowl has in the last 2 years experienced a shock wave from the Cajuns being there---can you imagine going from about 22K to almost 50K, which by the way, was probably 95% Cajun fans----a University selling more than most of the BIG 5 conferences in the country of their ticket allotment-----If the right team would have been guaranteed for the Indy Bowl we might have taken it but with the date, the possible weather conditions, and S-Port compared to NO---It surely becomes the classic NO BRAINER---Add to this that last year and I imagine this year, the Cajuns wouldn't be compensated for their extra fans ticket sales or given the type of seating that the NO Bowl gives us---Can you possibly see our point???? Also add that the money that UL generates was shared by covering your asses of expense occurred!!! Please tell me where selfishness stars or ends and common sense prevails!!!!

We see the point, and no one is questioning that you are the champ and all that, although I think it looks a little silly that it seems like ULL has their own bowl. I just thought we had each other's backs, that's all, instead I see ULL fans supporting a defector. Yeah, yeah, I know, we'd all jump at the chance yada yada. I for one have supported ULL all along, saying you deserved all the accolades and represented the Belt well. I've even called your sorry a**es Louisiana, like you wanted. Yeah, you wanted us to lose so you'd have sole possession of 1st place. Got it. But you all come over here making a public display of supporting WKU and have been all along. I hope you do get an invite to a watered-down CUSA and join your buddies, then ASU, ULM, Troy, USA, and the rest of us can get on with trying to make OUR conference what we all know it can be.

Okay, this is where I draw the line. UL is supposed to have ASU's back? I'm sorry, I find this statement ironic when your program wasn't concerned about our request to call us Louisiana. I can understand State fans disappointment, but this really is a load of crap in my book. Have your backs, when a large number of your fans support ULM over UL at every opportunity? We've gotten a first hand look how State has our back, joining ULM in sticking a knife in it.

UL has no obligation to put aside their own bowl preference to help ASU. I can assure you that we would not pass on a Liberty Bowl offer just to help UL get a bowl.

You don't have to justify your bowl preferences to ANYONE. Congrats and enjoy.

My Bowl preference was to play the ACC opponent in the Indy Bowl just like Hudspeth. The problem is, the Indy doesn't have to pay the $1.5 Mil or open up some of the corporate seating. So my question remains, what exactly was UL offered and no one seems to have specifics on that question.

(12-01-2013 02:17 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 02:11 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 02:05 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:25 PM)The Howling Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:00 PM)exflash Wrote:  UL has great fan support and the NO Bowl has in the last 2 years experienced a shock wave from the Cajuns being there---can you imagine going from about 22K to almost 50K, which by the way, was probably 95% Cajun fans----a University selling more than most of the BIG 5 conferences in the country of their ticket allotment-----If the right team would have been guaranteed for the Indy Bowl we might have taken it but with the date, the possible weather conditions, and S-Port compared to NO---It surely becomes the classic NO BRAINER---Add to this that last year and I imagine this year, the Cajuns wouldn't be compensated for their extra fans ticket sales or given the type of seating that the NO Bowl gives us---Can you possibly see our point???? Also add that the money that UL generates was shared by covering your asses of expense occurred!!! Please tell me where selfishness stars or ends and common sense prevails!!!!

We see the point, and no one is questioning that you are the champ and all that, although I think it looks a little silly that it seems like ULL has their own bowl. I just thought we had each other's backs, that's all, instead I see ULL fans supporting a defector. Yeah, yeah, I know, we'd all jump at the chance yada yada. I for one have supported ULL all along, saying you deserved all the accolades and represented the Belt well. I've even called your sorry a**es Louisiana, like you wanted. Yeah, you wanted us to lose so you'd have sole possession of 1st place. Got it. But you all come over here making a public display of supporting WKU and have been all along. I hope you do get an invite to a watered-down CUSA and join your buddies, then ASU, ULM, Troy, USA, and the rest of us can get on with trying to make OUR conference what we all know it can be.

Okay, this is where I draw the line. UL is supposed to have ASU's back? I'm sorry, I find this statement ironic when your program wasn't concerned about our request to call us Louisiana. I can understand State fans disappointment, but this really is a load of crap in my book. Have your backs, when a large number of your fans support ULM over UL at every opportunity? We've gotten a first hand look how State has our back, joining ULM in sticking a knife in it.

UL has no obligation to put aside their own bowl preference to help ASU. I can assure you that we would not pass on a Liberty Bowl offer just to help UL get a bowl.

You don't have to justify your bowl preferences to ANYONE. Congrats and enjoy.

My Bowl preference was to play the ACC opponent in the Indy Bowl just like Hudspeth. The problem is, the Indy doesn't have to pay the $1.5 Mil or open up some of the corporate seating. So my question remains, what exactly was UL offered and no one seems to have specifics on that question.

Whatever it was, it shouldn't matter to us. UL made a decision based on their own analysis of what's best for UL. I find that hard to criticize.

I can criticize the conference bowl selection process and rules, but I can't criticize UL for doing what they think is best for UL within those rules just because it isn't best for stAte.

(12-01-2013 12:27 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 11:40 AM)The Howling Wrote:  I've enjoyed coming to this forum because of the comraderie (sp?) with other fans of SBC teams, but I had no idea ASU was so hated in the SBC.....ULL fans congratulating WKU, fans of CUSA schools who were former SBC who are in good shape for a bowl enjoying our screw job, when you were in no better shape than ASU to be picked by CUSA. It's time for ASU to leave this screwed up conference some way, somehow, and not to CUSA either. Benson couldn't believe it when he was booed by our fans last year. I know no other conference wants us either, but anything would be better than being under a de-commissioner that allows our leading bowl tie in to have a preferential school every year, and would allow a departing member to be picked for the other. If Troy gets picked for GoDaddy, then they deserve it, they're a darn good team, a staying member, and one of the backbone schools of the conference. I wish them well. But not any school that bolts for not-so-greener pastures. Find a way to get us out, Mohajir, and let's leave this stinking conference that would screw one of its leading members. I hope App. State and Ga. southern know what they got themselves into.

I'm shocked by the board, some of our fans, some of WKU fans, and the fact there are some pathetic MTSU fans over here gloating over this ongoing fiasco.

FWIW...I found out from the CUSA board (specifically Toppersontop), that our fans were hunting down WKU fans after the game, looking for fights. I was late getting out with my elderly parents, and I saw nothing remotely of that sort.

Also, our team took "multiple" cheap shots on their team. Yeah....I have a few pics to share at a later date. It doesn't quite match up to his take of it.

As for leaving the conference....nah.....I like it here. We have 2 of the best 1-AA schools out there joining us, and I can't wait to watch them develop.

I left when the clock hit 00:00 and I was sure no flags were on the field. I usually stick around for a few minutes but last night we had a basketball game 1.5 hours after the football game ended. So we left to get something to eat. So I don't have a clue on what did or didn't take place after the game.

The ASU fans I talked to during the game were like most fans of every school that travel to see their team play... good diehard fans. ASU had a good amount of fans at this game...about what we brought to ASU last year. Western had more at Jonesboro...we took our band but "fans" looked to be about the same.

As far as "cheap shots" I saw a few by your offensive line on a number of plays. That's part of the game...or maybe I should say part of the emotion that goes with big bodies hitting each other (troy freaking st is the only "true" dirty team I saw in the SBC). I'm sure you have some great pictures but that's exactly what they are...pictures. A picture shows nothing but the moment it was captured. So it can not "show a cheap shot" no matter why you captured at that moment.

(12-01-2013 02:05 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:25 PM)The Howling Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:00 PM)exflash Wrote:  UL has great fan support and the NO Bowl has in the last 2 years experienced a shock wave from the Cajuns being there---can you imagine going from about 22K to almost 50K, which by the way, was probably 95% Cajun fans----a University selling more than most of the BIG 5 conferences in the country of their ticket allotment-----If the right team would have been guaranteed for the Indy Bowl we might have taken it but with the date, the possible weather conditions, and S-Port compared to NO---It surely becomes the classic NO BRAINER---Add to this that last year and I imagine this year, the Cajuns wouldn't be compensated for their extra fans ticket sales or given the type of seating that the NO Bowl gives us---Can you possibly see our point???? Also add that the money that UL generates was shared by covering your asses of expense occurred!!! Please tell me where selfishness stars or ends and common sense prevails!!!!

We see the point, and no one is questioning that you are the champ and all that, although I think it looks a little silly that it seems like ULL has their own bowl. I just thought we had each other's backs, that's all, instead I see ULL fans supporting a defector. Yeah, yeah, I know, we'd all jump at the chance yada yada. I for one have supported ULL all along, saying you deserved all the accolades and represented the Belt well. I've even called your sorry a**es Louisiana, like you wanted. Yeah, you wanted us to lose so you'd have sole possession of 1st place. Got it. But you all come over here making a public display of supporting WKU and have been all along. I hope you do get an invite to a watered-down CUSA and join your buddies, then ASU, ULM, Troy, USA, and the rest of us can get on with trying to make OUR conference what we all know it can be.

Okay, this is where I draw the line. UL is supposed to have ASU's back? I'm sorry, I find this statement ironic when your program wasn't concerned about our request to call us Louisiana. I can understand State fans disappointment, but this really is a load of crap in my book. Have your backs, when a large number of your fans support ULM over UL at every opportunity? We've gotten a first hand look how State has our back, joining ULM in sticking a knife in it.

YOU are drawing the line? I don't know the politics you are talking about, but that's the best you can come up with, what we call your school? I for one have always supported you being called UL because I thought it was better for the conference. I didn't know ASU had done anything to stick you in the back, and I hope to heck someday the state of Louisiana will dub you guys UL so you can feel legit!