(12-01-2013 02:07 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:54 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:45 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:29 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:08 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  You won. Game over. Act like a ******* adult and ignore people pissed off and quit expecting handjob congratulations. You guys whine your ass off after every loss with a ton of you "quitting" the team after every loss.

And more than one of our fans calls the same couple WKU fans out on it when they did it.


Pissed or not that doesn't mean you have to blame the world on getting beat. And it doesn't change the fact ASU fans are whinning like little babies and why should I ignore them? Or maybe you should have ignored my post? I could care less if any ASU fans gives WKU congratulations....

If you act like a whinny little punk someone needs to tell you so and I haven't seen anyone from you fanbase do it.

Whatever the outcome of that game. A #4 defector should not be jumping a #2 (or possible co-champ) in the bowl selection process for our conference's bowls. In fact, a #4 should not be jumping a #3. The fact that that could happen is an issue. It indicates that the conference has no ability or inclination to even stand up for its #2 or #3 teams (that aren't leaving).

Yes, if WKU is selected over stAte or Troy I will be whiny for a long time. And I'll be completely legitimate in doing so. But it will be absolutely no concern of yours because it's an SBC discussion.

There you go again #4, #3??? what are you taking about? If you are talking about conference standings then you can't even get that right. WKU is in 3rd place or I should say a tie for 3rd.

Let me give you a little news a whinny little baby like yourself has zero say so in it and I'm 100% positive no one making the decision on who gets a bowl and who doesn't really care what you have to say.

surely you understand that but I doubt it....


Whiny little sniffling baby

If stAte doesn't get a bid, I hope like hell they stiff you and give it to a real SBC member like Troy or USA. I'm sure you won't whine.

No I won't whine if ASU gets the bowl instead of WKU....

disappointed but there will be nothing to whine about because a case could be made for a 7-5 ASU team that traveled very well to their last 2 bowl games in Mobile. Now a 6-6 Troy or if ASU was 6-6 and still got the bowl then I might feel Western got the shaft

But the whining being done in this thread isn't about the bowl....

it's being done by fans that want to blame a loss on anything but the true cause...your team and stupid plays at the end of a game

(12-01-2013 02:15 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 02:07 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:54 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:45 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:29 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  And more than one of our fans calls the same couple WKU fans out on it when they did it.


Pissed or not that doesn't mean you have to blame the world on getting beat. And it doesn't change the fact ASU fans are whinning like little babies and why should I ignore them? Or maybe you should have ignored my post? I could care less if any ASU fans gives WKU congratulations....

If you act like a whinny little punk someone needs to tell you so and I haven't seen anyone from you fanbase do it.

Whatever the outcome of that game. A #4 defector should not be jumping a #2 (or possible co-champ) in the bowl selection process for our conference's bowls. In fact, a #4 should not be jumping a #3. The fact that that could happen is an issue. It indicates that the conference has no ability or inclination to even stand up for its #2 or #3 teams (that aren't leaving).

Yes, if WKU is selected over stAte or Troy I will be whiny for a long time. And I'll be completely legitimate in doing so. But it will be absolutely no concern of yours because it's an SBC discussion.

There you go again #4, #3??? what are you taking about? If you are talking about conference standings then you can't even get that right. WKU is in 3rd place or I should say a tie for 3rd.

Let me give you a little news a whinny little baby like yourself has zero say so in it and I'm 100% positive no one making the decision on who gets a bowl and who doesn't really care what you have to say.

surely you understand that but I doubt it....


Whiny little sniffling baby

If stAte doesn't get a bid, I hope like hell they stiff you and give it to a real SBC member like Troy or USA. I'm sure you won't whine.

No I won't whine if ASU gets the bowl instead of WKU....

disappointed but there will be nothing to whine about because a case could be made for a 7-5 ASU team that traveled very well to their last 2 bowl games in Mobile. Now a 6-6 Troy or if ASU was 6-6 and still got the bowl then I might feel Western got the shaft

But the whining being done in this thread isn't about the bowl....

it's being done by fans that want to blame a loss on anything but the true cause...your team and stupid plays at the end of a game

Auburn beat us. Missouri beat us. Memphis(embarrassing) beat us. ULL beat us. WKU did NOT beat us. What I saw tonight in Bowling Green was the biggest piece of bull$hit I have seen in 20 years.

(12-01-2013 02:21 AM)gostAte870 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 02:15 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 02:07 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:54 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:45 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Whatever the outcome of that game. A #4 defector should not be jumping a #2 (or possible co-champ) in the bowl selection process for our conference's bowls. In fact, a #4 should not be jumping a #3. The fact that that could happen is an issue. It indicates that the conference has no ability or inclination to even stand up for its #2 or #3 teams (that aren't leaving).

Yes, if WKU is selected over stAte or Troy I will be whiny for a long time. And I'll be completely legitimate in doing so. But it will be absolutely no concern of yours because it's an SBC discussion.

There you go again #4, #3??? what are you taking about? If you are talking about conference standings then you can't even get that right. WKU is in 3rd place or I should say a tie for 3rd.

Let me give you a little news a whinny little baby like yourself has zero say so in it and I'm 100% positive no one making the decision on who gets a bowl and who doesn't really care what you have to say.

surely you understand that but I doubt it....


Whiny little sniffling baby

If stAte doesn't get a bid, I hope like hell they stiff you and give it to a real SBC member like Troy or USA. I'm sure you won't whine.

No I won't whine if ASU gets the bowl instead of WKU....

disappointed but there will be nothing to whine about because a case could be made for a 7-5 ASU team that traveled very well to their last 2 bowl games in Mobile. Now a 6-6 Troy or if ASU was 6-6 and still got the bowl then I might feel Western got the shaft

But the whining being done in this thread isn't about the bowl....

it's being done by fans that want to blame a loss on anything but the true cause...your team and stupid plays at the end of a game

Auburn beat us. Missouri beat us. Memphis(embarrassing) beat us. ULL beat us. WKU did NOT beat us. What I saw tonight in Bowling Green was the biggest piece of bull$hit I have seen in 20 years.

I think you've made this clear enough for one night...

Wont change my stand on name calling if WKU gets no bid.We have seen money,politics,and bad administrations stick it to various schools in the past.Bowl picking is a very poor system and is rarely "fair".Its probably the worst thing about college football-FBS style.A system that would leave out stAte or WKU is very flawed .

(12-01-2013 02:29 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Wont change my stand on name calling if WKU gets no bid.We have seen money,politics,and bad administrations stick it to various schools in the past.Bowl picking is a very poor system and is rarely "fair".Its probably the worst thing about college football-FBS style.A system that would leave out stAte or WKU is very flawed .

Bowl tie-ins are at least conference based. A defecting school should not jump over a higher or equally placed conference member that is not leaving. That would currently be Troy and stAte.

A bowl is free to do that if its in the rules, but it indicates that the conference really has no influence/ability/motivation to protect its own members interests over those of a defecting school. Troy and stAte would have reason to pitch a fit about this failure.

What happened to MTSU last year might not have been "fair" but it was what should have occurred because a conference, and its bowl tie ins should have an interest in favoring remaining members over departing members.

The fat man (SBC) didn't help WKU last year...getting the Pizza bowl was all on our AD being pro-active when we hit 6 wins.

Lol at Astate!!!

(12-01-2013 08:58 AM)BlueRaider0x0 Wrote:  Lol at Astate!!!

Remember 45-0? So lol at you! Crawl back to your crappy conference. The only reason I'd like to crawl to your crappy conference along with you is because you guys have enough bowl tie-ins to secure a bowl for the number 2 team in the conference. We may become co-champs next week and WKU is still getting a bowl ahead of us

I don't care about last year. The 45-0 game doesn't bother me in the least. What is important is MT will definitely be bowling at 8-4 while you are sweating if you'll go anywhere at 7-5!! After getting spanked by Memphis you really don't deserve it... And CUSA isn't crappy. 8 of 12 teams are bowl eligible.

(11-30-2013 07:52 PM)gostAte870 Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:44 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  WKU officials think so, but we have been fooled before...To all the Ark. St. fans, you are truly showing your ass tonight...GOod lord, what do you guys have to be mad about..You are going bowling regardless..

It ain't about going bowling. We knew all week that we would be number 2 in the conference regardless of tonight, but it's the fact that WE WON TONIGHT and it was taken away from us THREE TIMES!(FOUR TIMES IF YOU COUNT THAT 4th AND LONG PLAY WHEN YOUR GUY CAUGHT THE BALL OUT OF BOUNDS BACK IN YOUR TERRITORY). A-State is really 8-4 and we will forever say that we were 8-4 in the 2013 regular season.

Just stop.

Isn't this fun? Last night's game sucked all the way around. I think stAte got screwed over, but WKU fans would have thought the same thing had the calls not happened.

The truth is that both WKU and stAte deserve bowl bids. The only fair thing to do is to let the best records get the bowl bids. I think stAte, with a better conf. record should get the bid first, but WKU went 8-4 and won head-to-head so they would have a good argument too. The kicker is them leaving the conference and how much that will matter.

Troy at 6-6, should NOT get a bid before WKU and stAte are placed. Hopefully we will get 3 bowl bids and we can all go back to being friends.

Finally, I have been pretty content in the Sun Belt. It's a good fit for stAte as long as we don't get screwed over. If we don't get a bid this year, you can bet that will change.

Everyone chill out. Geez. I have a lot of respect for A-State fans.

If people want to be mad, be mad at SBC refs, not WKU.

Everyone can claim a grievance against SBC officiating.

(12-01-2013 09:59 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  Isn't this fun? Last night's game sucked all the way around. I think stAte got screwed over, but WKU fans would have thought the same thing had the calls not happened.

The truth is that both WKU and stAte deserve bowl bids. The only fair thing to do is to let the best records get the bowl bids. I think stAte, with a better conf. record should get the bid first, but WKU went 8-4 and won head-to-head so they would have a good argument too. The kicker is them leaving the conference and how much that will matter.

Troy at 6-6, should NOT get a bid before WKU and stAte are placed. Hopefully we will get 3 bowl bids and we can all go back to being friends.

Finally, I have been pretty content in the Sun Belt. It's a good fit for stAte as long as we don't get screwed over. If we don't get a bid this year, you can bet that will change.

You are right, WKU fans probably would have felt screwed. Was that block that blatant? Not really. The real issue is that SBC refs often times don't know how to use the no-call and let a game happen. They also sometimes don't know how to make a call so replay can be used properly.

As for Troy picked over us. You can't blame a bowl for being hesitant to take a team 3-years in a row. In fact I wish more of them were hesitant to take a team 3-years in a row. Troy is a member in good standing, they have an exciting offense, they are local. I would be disappointed if they jumped us but it wouldn't stick in my craw.

If stAte gets the bid over WKU, can someone do me a solid and link to some early December threads from last season discussing MT's bowl snub? I'd love to compare the opinions/postings of the Topper faithful.

(12-01-2013 10:43 AM)MiddleTennesseeStater Wrote:  If stAte gets the bid over WKU, can someone do me a solid and link to some early December threads from last season discussing MT's bowl snub? I'd love to compare the opinions/postings of the Topper faithful.

I would not be surprised if the SBC worked overtime to get a bid for a school not leaving the conference. I don't expect SBC to be fighting for WKU. I'm okay with that.

(12-01-2013 10:43 AM)MiddleTennesseeStater Wrote:  If stAte gets the bid over WKU, can someone do me a solid and link to some early December threads from last season discussing MT's bowl snub? I'd love to compare the opinions/postings of the Topper faithful.

WKU fans have almost all expected no Bowl game this year. As I recall from last year, WKU fans weren't the one's giving MTSU hell about not getting a Bowl.

How could anyone blame the conference for working to get Ark.St. a bowl.They are a part of the SBC and will be next year. It just is unfortunate that there are not more bowl slots available.

Not to mention that MTSU Last year had a shot with the Millitary Bowl, and then made the mistake of listening to Karl Benson.

(12-01-2013 10:46 AM)galojah Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 10:43 AM)MiddleTennesseeStater Wrote:  If stAte gets the bid over WKU, can someone do me a solid and link to some early December threads from last season discussing MT's bowl snub? I'd love to compare the opinions/postings of the Topper faithful.

I would not be surprised if the SBC worked overtime to get a bid for a school not leaving the conference. I don't expect SBC to be fighting for WKU. I'm okay with that.

You shouldn't be okay with it. How long has WKU been a member of the Belt? Probably as long as anyone here.

WKU is still a member, no? Did you honor all your game committments? Did you become bowl eligible? Did you beat some of the best of the conference?

If a conference is going to work less for any member because of politicis, a member who has paid their dues like everyone else, then they're a crappy conference. Alternately, just write into the bylaws that the conference admins will do everything humanly possible to see that its member teams are placed in bowl slots UNLESS those member have announced they're going elsewhere the following year. Everyone sign on that dotted line please.

I understand the logic and negative feelings about leaving one's position in a conference, but as long as any team is a member in good standing, then in my opinion they should expect nothing less than full support from the conference main office.

(12-01-2013 10:56 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 10:46 AM)galojah Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 10:43 AM)MiddleTennesseeStater Wrote:  If stAte gets the bid over WKU, can someone do me a solid and link to some early December threads from last season discussing MT's bowl snub? I'd love to compare the opinions/postings of the Topper faithful.

I would not be surprised if the SBC worked overtime to get a bid for a school not leaving the conference. I don't expect SBC to be fighting for WKU. I'm okay with that.

You shouldn't be okay with it. How long has WKU been a member of the Belt? Probably as long as anyone here.

WKU is still a member, no? Did you honor all your game committments? Did you become bowl eligible? Did you beat some of the best of the conference?

If a conference is going to work less for any member because of politicis, a member who has paid their dues like everyone else, then they're a crappy conference. Alternately, just write into the bylaws that the conference admins will do everything humanly possible to see that its member teams are placed in bowl slots UNLESS those member have announced they're going elsewhere the following year. Everyone sign on that dotted line please.

I understand the logic and negative feelings about leaving one's position in a conference, but as long as any team is a member in good standing, then in my opinion they should expect nothing less than full support from the conference main office.

I was still married to my first wife until the divorce was finalized. I carried out my legal obligations to her, but I certainly didn't massage her feet, and I wouldn't have pulled her out of a fire before my sister.

I will fully support Troy, ULM, or TXST getting a conference affiliated bowl bid before WKU.