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(11-05-2013 07:04 PM)SeaBlue Wrote:  None of this can be true...

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Per http://www.bluegoldsports.com/oliver-luc...ent-place/

Contacts have told our Jeremy Simon that an agreement has been reached between current West Virginia University athletic director Oliver Luck, and the University of Texas. 04-jawdrop

Updated Oct 26th. Go to espn.com and check out the current story.
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I thought Luck was getting the job
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In all honesty the LHN is one of those things that will only really fail because everybody else hates the idea of it. I'm looking at you Tech, Ole Miss, and everybody else in the conference but Kansas.
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(11-05-2013 08:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  In all honesty the LHN is one of those things that will only really fail because everybody else hates the idea of it. I'm looking at you Tech, Ole Miss, and everybody else in the conference but Kansas.

well to be fair its not so much that texas has a conf. network but that went out of their way to be total jackas.es about having one
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(11-05-2013 03:25 PM)john01992 Wrote:  could this be a possible hint as too future conf. realignment?
I have no need to go much further into another stupid thread, john. Let's break this down in simple terms.

1. Patterson has spent almost a whole 2 years at ASU. So he's a P12 guy through and through?
2. He has no power to make that decision - The President and Regents do.
3. Why would the decision makers at Texas do complete 180 after turning down the PAC not long ago to salvage the B12, where they are the undisputed King?
4. Will Texas politicians suddenly promise to make the move a whole lot easier, so that Texas has no need to bring along undesired Texas programs?

You tend to leap to such ignorant conclusions at times. I wish that sometimes you would stop and think a bit before posting. It would prevent all those instances of open mouth, insert foot, that you have a history of.
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(11-05-2013 08:27 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  4. Will Texas politicians suddenly promise to make the move a whole lot easier, so that Texas has no need to bring along undesired Texas programs?

Just curious, who do you think the undesired Texas programs are?
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For the P12? Every program in Texas, except Texas and A&M. That should have been obvious.
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The undesired programs are Tech and Baylor, just saying.
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(11-05-2013 08:57 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  For the P12? Every program in Texas, except Texas and A&M. That should have been obvious.

The liberals in California would have laughed the aggy band all the way back to Texas and I'm a conservative. Aggy wants nothing to do with the PAC 12.
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(11-05-2013 08:58 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The undesired programs are Tech and Baylor, just saying.

3rd largest fan supported school in a state with 26 million people won't be left behind.
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The only schools with a shot at joining the PAC are the Texoma 4: Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma St.
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(11-05-2013 09:06 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 08:58 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The undesired programs are Tech and Baylor, just saying.

3rd largest fan supported school in a state with 26 million people won't be left behind.

That's right, a distant third.

There is nothing wrong with Tech but it wont be going along with Texas anywhere, and it isn't up to grade for the PAC.

It would fit in great with the AAC.
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(11-05-2013 04:38 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 04:28 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 04:22 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 04:20 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 04:15 PM)john01992 Wrote:  thats not necessarily true. the p12 doesnt have a true national network by 7 individual regional networks. so a big chunk of the LHN can be kept & incorporated into the p12 network as the 8th regional network however its gonna need a name change, and it must be subjected to equal revenue sharing by the other pac12 schools.

the car will be gutted, but the body of the car can be kept.

So yeah, change the parameters, the revenue stream, and the name, but it's still the same thing? Get real. And the PAC-12 Network is alive and well (I know because I have it on my cable system in Florida), but it does have issues with carriage nationally, but like the LHN, that will change.

dude the LHN doesnt have a shot at picking things up. if they cant get rolling in year 3 its time to throw in the towel on it being a successful network

The LHN is on major carriers now. They are working on adding Comcast, Dish & DirectTV. The already have Fios, TWC (and subsidiaries), and other smaller cable companies. It's moving to what ESPN had envisioned it to be.

they have been working on adding them for years, TWC was the first true major carrier to pick em up and that was a desperation move on twc's part because they just dropped cbs sports and need sports programming quick. fios TV has only 4.4 million cable subscribers, comcast has 30 million cable subscribers.

the LHN is way behind the curve, networks that dont do this well in year 3 dont really succeed.

Not that dissimilar from the Big 10 Network at this stage.
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(11-05-2013 09:20 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 09:06 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 08:58 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The undesired programs are Tech and Baylor, just saying.

3rd largest fan supported school in a state with 26 million people won't be left behind.

That's right, a distant third.

There is nothing wrong with Tech but it wont be going along with Texas anywhere, and it isn't up to grade for the PAC.

It would fit in great with the AAC.

Yeah and they had a 50 year head start on Tech. As for where Tech and Texas end up, let the decisions makers in TEXAS and the PAC 12 make that decision. Texas isn't leaving Tech and we would stick out like a sore thumb in the aac.
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AUSTIN -- The agent for coach Nick Saban told Texas officials in January that Texas was the only school he would consider leaving Alabama for, and his success with the Crimson Tide had put him under “special pressure,” The Associated Press has learned.

The agent, Jimmy Sexton, made the comments during a 45-minute call with former Texas Regent Tom Hicks and current Regent Wallace Hall. Hicks detailed the call in a Sept. 24 email that was obtained Tuesday by the AP through an open-records request.

“Sexton confirmed that UT is the only job Nick would possibly consider leaving Alabama for, and that his success there created special pressure for him,” Hicks wrote.
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How much can a college coach make? Power play?
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(11-05-2013 09:32 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 09:20 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 09:06 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 08:58 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The undesired programs are Tech and Baylor, just saying.

3rd largest fan supported school in a state with 26 million people won't be left behind.

That's right, a distant third.

There is nothing wrong with Tech but it wont be going along with Texas anywhere, and it isn't up to grade for the PAC.

It would fit in great with the AAC.

Yeah and they had a 50 year head start on Tech. As for where Tech and Texas end up, let the decisions makers in TEXAS and the PAC 12 make that decision. Texas isn't leaving Tech and we would stick out like a sore thumb in the aac.

Well, at least you understand the decision makers are at "TEXAS" and not Tech.
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(11-05-2013 09:25 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 04:38 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 04:28 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 04:22 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 04:20 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  So yeah, change the parameters, the revenue stream, and the name, but it's still the same thing? Get real. And the PAC-12 Network is alive and well (I know because I have it on my cable system in Florida), but it does have issues with carriage nationally, but like the LHN, that will change.

dude the LHN doesnt have a shot at picking things up. if they cant get rolling in year 3 its time to throw in the towel on it being a successful network

The LHN is on major carriers now. They are working on adding Comcast, Dish & DirectTV. The already have Fios, TWC (and subsidiaries), and other smaller cable companies. It's moving to what ESPN had envisioned it to be.

they have been working on adding them for years, TWC was the first true major carrier to pick em up and that was a desperation move on twc's part because they just dropped cbs sports and need sports programming quick. fios TV has only 4.4 million cable subscribers, comcast has 30 million cable subscribers.

the LHN is way behind the curve, networks that dont do this well in year 3 dont really succeed.

Not that dissimilar from the Big 10 Network at this stage.

not at all. the b10 was 10x more successful than the LHN at every stage.

they had a couple of regional carriers carrying it at launch, its first national carrier in week #1, and was picked up by every major carrier within a few months. the BTN did more in 3 months than what the LHN has done in 3 years. and given how radical & risky the BTN was at the time you simply can not compare. the BTN network literally broke a hole in the cement wall which allowed the sec & p12 networks to run through, meanwhile texas can barely the hole. A LOT changes over the course of 4 years
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(11-05-2013 09:06 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 08:58 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The undesired programs are Tech and Baylor, just saying.
3rd largest fan supported school in a state with 26 million people won't be left behind.
Without the help of Texas, TT will never get an invite from the P12. That's a fact of life, dude. They didn't want Oklahoma without Texas, and Oklahoma is a brand name that's instantly recognizable across the nation. TT is small potatoes by comparison. It's that simple.

Stating that TT has the 3rd largest fanbase in Texas means absolutely nothing to those who make the decisions for the P12. They want the biggest program in Texas, and would be willing to accept TT to get them. But that doesn't mean they want TT. They'd much prefer Texas without them. They don't want Oklahoma without Texas. The Longhorns are the big attraction. The rest would be grudgingly accepted to get the big attraction. And that's a fact, whether you like it or not.
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The LHN and Dish does not seem very viable unless ESPN is willing to charge nowhere near the original price that was first quoted. I still do not get ESPNU and the ESPN News in HD along with a majority of the ABC owned channels.
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