Look at how may threads are actually here!!!! :ownd:

The answer is there is alot of interest in East Carolina. You have greatfans at East Carolina and those that fear our POTENTIAL!!!!!!!

UC has DESTROYED East Carolina the last 3 years, so stop bragging about beating UC years ago. Years ago means nothing. Also, trying to rip UC's football program and attendance is pathetic. UC has been to bowl games 4 of the last 5 years. As for attendance, we draw decently, but the Big East will boost our attendance significantly, that's a fact. UC has scheduled a huge number of Big East and Big Ten schools over the last 2 years and have regularly averaged over 30,000 per game. And now we're bringing in local recruits, and our local high school football is among the elite in the country and regularly draw over 20,000 per game. If just half of them follow their former players to UC games, and they will, they do regularly, UC is pushing into the 40,000 per game range. Easily. Now, UC is headed to the Big East, our basketball program is fine, our football program is fine. Mark Dantonio just out-recruited Illinois, Georgia Tech, Michigan State, and a slew of Big Ten and Pac-10 programs for some top-flight football players. Go to the Cincinnati recruiting board if you don't believe me. Our football program is on the rise. And, as far as the Big East's BCS bid and status, this should answer everything about that. And it should also show you where ECU is on the athletics totem pole. Well below UC:

December 19, 2004 -- While the rest of the college football world may have been questioning the Big East's status as a major player, league commissioner Mike Tranghese wasn't. Turns out he had an ace in the hole.
Tranghese told The Post last week that he'd cut a deal with the BCS to allow the conference to count the ratings of incoming schools — Cincinnati, Louisville and South Florida — in its BCS standings, just as departing Boston College counts toward the ACC.

Louisville (10-1) is ranked No. 10, and that should solidify the Big East's standing.

"We've had that agreement almost from the beginning of the season," Tranghese said.

That's good news, considering a rule had been adopted that could have a league's automatic bid stripped if its champion failed to average a top-12 finish over a four-year span. It was widely referred to as the Big East rule and assumed to pose the biggest threat to that league.

But BCS coordinator Kevin Weiberg said the Big East's bid — and the $14 million windfall that goes with it — was safe for at least three years. Now with this deal, it could be safe for even longer.

"The commitment is in place . . . through next year, and then our process was that we were going to do two years into a new structure [starting 2006] before there'd be an evaluation of conference automatic qualification," Weiberg said.

"It's also important to say that it's not unusual to have a [BCS] team from a conference that's ranked between 10 and 20. That's occurred virtually every year."

Fiesta Bowl-bound Pittsburgh (8-3) won the league crown this year. With a mediocre No. 21 BCS ranking, there would've been huge pressure for the league champion to post top-10 or even top-5 season in 2005 and 2006, but the inclusion of Liberty Bowl-bound Louisville eliminates that worry.

Granted, the criteria will change with the new BCS contract, starting in 2006. But the Big East's champion has finished in the top 10 every year since 1999, when Virginia Tech (now in the ACC) was No. 2. Miami (now in the ACC) was No. 1 in 2002, the Hurricanes No. 9 last year, and incoming Louisville No. 10 this year.

Tranghese also shot down both published reports out of Greenville, N.C., that East Carolina is a possible target for league expansion, and also any notion of a federated ninth, football-only member anytime soon.

One report indicated that, after Memphis and Central Florida had expressed that they would only join as all-sports members, that ECU was willing to jump at a football-only membership, and that an invitation could be extended by New Years.

"There's no truth to that," Tranghese said. "I haven't talked to them, and I haven't heard from them."


So I wouldn't wait by the phone for the SEC or Big East to call anytime soon.



By the way, what bowl is East Carolina going to this year?

Claw your propaganda and misconceptions on reality never cease to amaze me.

It's a moot point, ECU isn't going to the Big East or SEC. Meanwhile, Mark Dantonio is doing a heck of a job at UC, and is bringing in a strong recruiting class next year thanks to Big East affiliation!

We willsee how it all works out there Claw, we will see.

Hope you can have more than 12000 fans at your football games since the Big East is doing so much to help UC.

UC better tighten up or you may not meet Division I attendance requirements.

just a few fact corrections for some of you:

*UNC isn't chicken to play us in baseball -- you're thinking of Duke -- we play UNC twice this season
*while we've gotten kicked around (by EVERYONE) in football lately, we hold a 12-6 edge over Cincinnati ... that doesn't leave you much room to talk about you owning us
*Duke beat ECU a few years ago, at duke ... although it might as well have been a home game for ECU

and finally

*ECU is not in consideration for the SEC. why? we can't fill our stadiums (except for baseball) as it is. of course you can make the argument that if SEC teams were here we'd fill it up, but for how long? bandwagoners would jump off again in a few years when they'd realize we're the SEC doormat (kind of like now, only we're the C-USA doormat). many other schools would fill their stadiums and would have more success than ECU would. ECU has the potential (and has shown flashes of it in the past, particularly in the 1990's) to be something great, and it may get back to good soon (hopefully), but right now we offer absolutely nothing except baseball. if you can't see that, then please shut your computer down and see your doctor -- he can surgically remove the purple colored glasses for you

william146 Wrote:just a few fact corrections for some of you:

*UNC isn't chicken to play us in baseball -- you're thinking of Duke -- we play UNC twice this season
*while we've gotten kicked around (by EVERYONE) in football lately, we hold a 12-6 edge over Cincinnati ... that doesn't leave you much room to talk about you owning us
*Duke beat ECU a few years ago, at duke ... although it might as well have been a home game for ECU

and finally

*ECU is not in consideration for the SEC. why? we can't fill our stadiums (except for baseball) as it is. of course you can make the argument that if SEC teams were here we'd fill it up, but for how long? bandwagoners would jump off again in a few years when they'd realize we're the SEC doormat (kind of like now, only we're the C-USA doormat). many other schools would fill their stadiums and would have more success than ECU would. ECU has the potential (and has shown flashes of it in the past, particularly in the 1990's) to be something great, and it may get back to good soon (hopefully), but right now we offer absolutely nothing except baseball. if you can't see that, then please shut your computer down and see your doctor -- he can surgically remove the purple colored glasses for you

I'll tell you there partner, you must be one of those Logan-nites. With fans like you it's no wonder ECU has a hard time getting respect.

definitely not a loganite, but i'm not unrealistic either ... i'd love for it to happen, but it won't

My sources say the NFL is looking at ECU!With a fan base like they have it is amazing
they only had 20K for the Memphis game.NOBODY WANTS ECU(not even C-USA) :bang:
Why don't you try winning at something(anything)
THe Sunbelt is where you belong :wave:

We know who owns who in football there buddy. ECU dominates the series with UC.

So move along now.........

You have gotten your ****** kicked by UC the last 3 years by an average of 19 points (42-26, 40-3, and, I believe, 24-19 was the score of the last game with UC taking a knee on ECU's 2 yard line) and you're talking about domination? We've beaten you twice on your home field including wrapping up a conference title on it and taking a knee on your 2 yard line this year to stop from running up the score and you're talking about dominating? You're looking at the series, I'm looking at what is important, the last 3 years. The Cincinnati program is on the upswing, and ECU is what? But, to make you feel better, a little recruiting news for the ECU fans who are still convinced that ECU is a national "power" and "own" Cincinnati. And, keep this in mind, Coach Dantonio, who has a national championship and recruiting ties in the Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10 and Big 12 recruiting areas is just getting started. In his first year he is 7-5 with a bowl win and a road win against a Top 25 program. Oh, but ECU beat Cincinnati 4 years ago. Ok. LOL! Read the article like a good little ECU fan and move on! :D



A happy end to the recruiting trail
UC coach Dantonio has hauled in talented class with Ohio flavor

By Bill Koch
Enquirer staff writer

With a week to go before the national signing date, University of Cincinnati football coach Mark Dantonio and his staff have virtually wrapped up recruiting for this year's class.

And indications are that the Bearcats' move to the Big East next season is already paying dividends.

Coming off a 7-5 season and a victory in the Fort Worth Bowl in Dantonio's first season, the Bearcats have landed a class that's heavy on Ohio talent and features 12 players who are either defensive linemen or linebackers.

There are also three quarterbacks, including one from junior college, who will compete to succeed career passing leader Gino Guidugli.

UC also picked up four local players, including Colerain defensive lineman Terrill Byrd, the Enquirer's Player of the Year, and quarterback Dominick Goodman and linebacker Andre Revels, his teammates on the Division I state champions.

The other local player is Elder quarterback Craig Carey.

"I think it's a pretty good class," said Max Emfinger of the National Blue Chips Recruiting Service. "I'd probably rate it somewhere in the top 50. I think it's a big step in the right direction for them."

"This is a very competitive class," said Tom Lemming of ESPN.com, "the first one they've had for a while. It's a very good group.

"The old staff wasn't a great recruiting staff. This one might be."

Dantonio, prohibited by NCAA rules from talking about players until they sign letters of intent, did talk about his approach to recruiting and what he was looking for as he attempts to bolster a roster that loses 25 seniors from last season.

He said he expects to sign 25 or 26 players, beginning next Wednesday, which is national letter-of-intent day. Fourteen of those players are from Ohio.

"We will always start with the Cincinnati area," Dantonio said, "and then move outside of that to the Ohio area and then outside the state. We want to do the very best we can in this area. The high school football is good and very well supported. If we can be successful with those people, we'll have a very good football team."

Recruiting classes don't prove their mettle until they show what they can do on the field, so it's premature to place too much stock in what the analysts say.

But the Bearcats appear to be competing more successfully with schools from other Bowl Championship Series conferences.

Among the top players are:

• Kazeem Alli, a 6-4, 225-pound tight end from the St. Louis area who chose UC over Illinois, Missouri, Michigan State and Georgia Tech. "He's an outstanding tight end," Lemming said, "a great catch for them. I really like him a lot."

• Carey, the Elder quarterback who chose UC over Pitt. "He's got a very strong arm and played for a really good program," Emfinger said.

• Leighton Morgan, a junior-college linebacker who runs a 4.6 40.

• Cedric Tober, a running back from Xenia who runs a 4.4 40.

• Patrick Mimms, a 6-2, 260-pound defensive end from Maryland. "He's a steal," Emfinger said.

• Brad Jones, a cornerback from Canton with 4.4 speed. "He's an outstanding catch," Lemming said.

• Curtis Smith, a 6-2, 241-pound defensive end from Cleveland who had an offer from Michigan State.

"I think there's a big awareness that we're in the Big East," Dantonio said. "We've become a BCS school. That puts us at another level. Then they've come down and seen the facilities that are being built."

For the first time in years, UC has kept its entire coaching staff intact, a major accomplishment for a program that went through 55 assistants in 10 years under Rick Minter, the previous head coach.

And unlike last year, when Dantonio and his staff had only a few weeks to recruit after getting the UC job Dec. 23, this class reflects the labor of a year of recruiting.


I know exactly how ECU fans felt after reading that article!

RIVER CITY PIRATE Wrote:We willsee how it all works out there Claw, we will see.

Hope you can have more than 12000 fans at your football games since the Big East is doing so much to help UC.

UC better tighten up or you may not meet Division I attendance requirements.

Our attendance is just fine. Hope you can win more then 3 or 4 games in a year sometimes in the next 10 years though. I hope you read the article on UC recruiting after laughing about the Big East affiliation!

william146 Wrote:just a few fact corrections for some of you:

*UNC isn't chicken to play us in baseball -- you're thinking of Duke -- we play UNC twice this season
*while we've gotten kicked around (by EVERYONE) in football lately, we hold a 12-6 edge over Cincinnati ... that doesn't leave you much room to talk about you owning us
*Duke beat ECU a few years ago, at duke ... although it might as well have been a home game for ECU

and finally

*ECU is not in consideration for the SEC. why? we can't fill our stadiums (except for baseball) as it is. of course you can make the argument that if SEC teams were here we'd fill it up, but for how long? bandwagoners would jump off again in a few years when they'd realize we're the SEC doormat (kind of like now, only we're the C-USA doormat). many other schools would fill their stadiums and would have more success than ECU would. ECU has the potential (and has shown flashes of it in the past, particularly in the 1990's) to be something great, and it may get back to good soon (hopefully), but right now we offer absolutely nothing except baseball. if you can't see that, then please shut your computer down and see your doctor -- he can surgically remove the purple colored glasses for you

Lets see, UC has beaten you 3 straight years by an average of 19 ppg and beating your twice on your home field. I would say that that is owning somebody. It's just like basketball, it's like saying a team owns you after they have beaten you 8 of the last 9 times just because you hold a 30-21 edge in a series.

Claw,

I am not going to start fussing back and forth with you on wins and losses between UC and ECU. The reason is recently you have posted some pro-ECU posts. So I can see that you do indeed have respect for our program. So with that being said I will refrain from making anti-UC posts in honor of your recent acts.

But the other UC posters who make statements like they do, I will have to respond. But with you Claw I will call a truce.

You got your @sses whipped by UC the last 3 yearsm get over it. You don't own anybody. UC is moving into the Big East with a Top 50 recruiting class. Period. As for attendance, UC averages 30,000+ fans per game against Big East schools over the last 7 years (Syracuse, West Virginia, Temple), and our high school football games are among the most attended in the country, in the 15,000 to 20,000 range many times. We just brought in a ton of big time local athletes, and fans will follow them. That alone will build the local fan base and move UC's attendance into the 30,000s, along with the Big East factor. Get over it ECU fans, god you're making idiots out of yourself. I'm laughing at you, SEC fans are laughing at you, ACC fans have been laughing at you and Big East fans are laughing at you. You're a power in your own mind. And you own a team when they have beaten you by an average of 19 ppg over the last 3 years. Now be a good little boy and move on before you embarass yourself and East Carolina more then you already have.

Cat's_Claw Wrote:You got your @sses whipped by UC the last 3 yearsm get over it. You don't own anybody. UC is moving into the Big East with a Top 50 recruiting class. Period. As for attendance, UC averages 30,000+ fans per game against Big East schools over the last 7 years (Syracuse, West Virginia, Temple), and our high school football games are among the most attended in the country, in the 15,000 to 20,000 range many times. We just brought in a ton of big time local athletes, and fans will follow them. That alone will build the local fan base and move UC's attendance into the 30,000s, along with the Big East factor. Get over it ECU fans, god you're making idiots out of yourself. I'm laughing at you, SEC fans are laughing at you, ACC fans have been laughing at you and Big East fans are laughing at you. You're a power in your own mind. And you own a team when they have beaten you by an average of 19 ppg over the last 3 years. Now be a good little boy and move on before you embarass yourself and East Carolina more then you already have.

Damn Claw I thought maybe we were calling a truce here buddy.

River City, stop embarrassing yourself and ECU. I think I've proven my point about UC and disproven your point about ECU. UC is going to the Big East so I'm not going to concern myself with ECU. Just move along, nobody is taking you or ECU seriously in this debate. :snore:

Cat's_Claw Wrote:River City, stop embarrassing yourself and ECU. I think I've proven my point about UC and disproven your point about ECU. UC is going to the Big East so I'm not going to concern myself with ECU. Just move along, nobody is taking you or ECU seriously in this debate. :snore:

Claw,

Embarrassing ECU? You my friend are comical. You are in such a dream world about UC. ECU owns you in football. We dominate the series. And as far as last year if you could not beat us by more than 7 it was an embarrassment for your program. I am not worried about the last two years buddy. We will be back. ECU's potential is so huge and it wil be recognized very soon.

Man, I am sitting here trying to compliment you and you simply go nuts. You must be some kind of lunatic Claw. The last two posts I have made on this have been simple. I was trying to be courteous to you but apparently you are to stupid to recognize that.

You go on supporting UC and I will go on supporting ECU. We both think our programs are the best and that is the way it should be.

Oh and as far as moving UC's attendance into the 30,000s once you get in the Big East and all that crap we are already there and have been for years. It is not unusual to see 40,000 plus in dowdy Ficklen on a Saturday. Hell we average more with a losing team than UC does with a bowl team.

You care about UC football there Cat but apparently not many others in cinncy do.

Stop embarrassing yourself. You are posting about your school getting to 30,000 on an SEC board. That is embarrassing. The SEC schools have 50, 60 , 70 right on up to 100,000 fans for football and you are sitting there posting how now that UC is in the BE and all this recruiting hoopla that you'll will now finally get to over 30,000 fans. Man that is embarrassing.