When you drive through Troy, you don't really see the city, its downtown or the charm of its homes and buildings, nor the campus. I'd take a traditional college town campus over a city campus any day.

(10-24-2013 09:50 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:20 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:15 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:11 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:02 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  Correct...two rural counties and Dothan, Houston County.

I figured Montgomery, which is much larger and a few miles closer would be the city of choice for Troy.

Both cities have a ton of Troy presence... And Montgomery is a little closer. But Montgomery is also close to auburn with a lot of alumni.

Dothan is MUCH more Troy friendly (large Troy campus there) a lot of the restaurants have the Troy games on tv. Troy stuff on the walls, billboards everywhere. I've always called Dothan more our home than Montgomery.

That makes sense. When I went to the WKU/Troy game in Troy last year we drove up from vacation in Florida and then after the game drove back through Montgomery on the way to Kentucky. We didn't get to see Dothan but I remember thinking about how small the city of Troy was and what do these college students do for fun, shopping, eating, entertainment. I assumed they went to Montgomery.

Most do go to Montgomery which is about a 35-40min drive (depending on how fast you drive) and Dothan which has similar stuff as Montgomery is more like 45-50mins south.

Troy is very small. There is a movie theater. But for the most part the kids drive or ride the bus up to Montgomery.

Troy city has about 18k residents I believe. But for a lot of the Troy kids The city of Troy is one of the larger city's in south alabama so it's a bump up for them.

I was stunned when I went to Troy. It is a small sleepy poor southern town. The university seems out of place. I've been to Mobile many times. It's a nice city. If I was a kid shopping for a college, I would rather spend four years in Mobile than Troy any day of the week. Is there some hidden charm about the town or university? I imagine USA will be cutting into Troy's recruiting.

The university has very good people. The town isn't that bad as you make it seem. There's several things to do.... I'm not worried about USA cutting into Troys recruits.... You might want to be in a larger city but for some kids they want to be in a smaller town.

Our facilities are very good and the campus is beautiful. Ask a USA fan about our basketball arena.

(10-24-2013 10:57 PM)BMarkey Wrote:  When you drive through Troy, you don't really see the city, its downtown or the charm of its homes and buildings, nor the campus. I'd take a traditional college town campus over a city campus any day.

This.... There's more to Troy than what you see on HWY 231

It's called the 231 Bypass for a reason.

(10-24-2013 10:59 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 10:57 PM)BMarkey Wrote:  When you drive through Troy, you don't really see the city, its downtown or the charm of its homes and buildings, nor the campus. I'd take a traditional college town campus over a city campus any day.

This.... There's more to Troy than what you see on HWY 231

(10-24-2013 10:55 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 09:27 PM)Usajags Wrote:  We've got to get the Troy-USA game moved to the end of the season. To a traditional rival weekend.

Agreed!!

Saturday before the Iron Bowl would be ideal.

(10-24-2013 10:47 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 10:37 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  We beat USA and UAB we are #3 till proven otherwise

Can't argue with logic.

Neither can I. Enjoy one last year on that perch. See you in Mobile next year.

(10-24-2013 09:50 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:20 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:15 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:11 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:02 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  Correct...two rural counties and Dothan, Houston County.

I figured Montgomery, which is much larger and a few miles closer would be the city of choice for Troy.

Both cities have a ton of Troy presence... And Montgomery is a little closer. But Montgomery is also close to auburn with a lot of alumni.

Dothan is MUCH more Troy friendly (large Troy campus there) a lot of the restaurants have the Troy games on tv. Troy stuff on the walls, billboards everywhere. I've always called Dothan more our home than Montgomery.

That makes sense. When I went to the WKU/Troy game in Troy last year we drove up from vacation in Florida and then after the game drove back through Montgomery on the way to Kentucky. We didn't get to see Dothan but I remember thinking about how small the city of Troy was and what do these college students do for fun, shopping, eating, entertainment. I assumed they went to Montgomery.

Most do go to Montgomery which is about a 35-40min drive (depending on how fast you drive) and Dothan which has similar stuff as Montgomery is more like 45-50mins south.

Troy is very small. There is a movie theater. But for the most part the kids drive or ride the bus up to Montgomery.

Troy city has about 18k residents I believe. But for a lot of the Troy kids The city of Troy is one of the larger city's in south alabama so it's a bump up for them.

I was stunned when I went to Troy. It is a small sleepy poor southern town. The university seems out of place. I've been to Mobile many times. It's a nice city. If I was a kid shopping for a college, I would rather spend four years in Mobile than Troy any day of the week. Is there some hidden charm about the town or university
y? I imagine USA will be cutting into Troy's recruiting.

We are cutting into Troy's recruiting, but much more so into Southern Miss's (USM is 80 mins from USA).

But I think for most players, where the school is minor. Playing time and relationships with coaches matter the most.

(10-25-2013 12:14 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 10:47 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 10:37 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  We beat USA and UAB we are #3 till proven otherwise

Can't argue with logic.

Neither can I. Enjoy one last year on that perch. See you in Mobile next year.

Bring it... Besides QB (which silvers and Tidwell will fill nicely) we will be a better more experienced team next year.

(10-24-2013 01:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:10 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:02 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 12:58 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  People hate the best. LOL!

Back on topic...

If I were a Trojan there would be a level of concern that USA would 'jump' Troy. USA has all the built in advantages to be better than Troy.

There may be some concern here but I believe it should be a "pride" thing only. I don't see Troy and USA competing head-to-head for a lot of recruits (some, but not all; maybe I am not looking hard enough)
Troy and USA are different institutions in different areas that service somewhat different goals.

Other schools bearing more similarity to USA, which shall not be named, should be more concerned.

I don't know. Here in Montgomery the two sides seem to give each other plenty of crap and neither side likes one another. I see both of them getting into it as time goes on because you both are south Alabama schools.

Both south Alabama schools, but 3.5 hours away from each other in completely different settings. South is coastal, Troy is agricultural.

Have you ever actually been on Troy's campus? What about Troy is agricultural besides the locals that have no thing to do with the University? I'm not even sure Troy has agriculture as a major to be honest.

Alabama Agricultural & Mechanical University is in the most advanced city in Alabama home to some of the entire countries most advanced technology. And it has farms on the campus. But long story short your wrong for calling Troy country because the city is poor. There are farms EVERYWHERE in Alabama even Huntsville.

(10-25-2013 01:17 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:10 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:02 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 12:58 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  People hate the best. LOL!

Back on topic...

If I were a Trojan there would be a level of concern that USA would 'jump' Troy. USA has all the built in advantages to be better than Troy.

There may be some concern here but I believe it should be a "pride" thing only. I don't see Troy and USA competing head-to-head for a lot of recruits (some, but not all; maybe I am not looking hard enough)
Troy and USA are different institutions in different areas that service somewhat different goals.

Other schools bearing more similarity to USA, which shall not be named, should be more concerned.

I don't know. Here in Montgomery the two sides seem to give each other plenty of crap and neither side likes one another. I see both of them getting into it as time goes on because you both are south Alabama schools.

Both south Alabama schools, but 3.5 hours away from each other in completely different settings. South is coastal, Troy is agricultural.

Have you ever actually been on Troy's campus? What about Troy is agricultural besides the locals that have no thing to do with the University? I'm not even sure Troy has agriculture as a major to be honest.

Alabama Agricultural & Mechanical University is in the most advanced city in Alabama home to some of the entire countries most advanced technology. And it has farms on the campus. But long story short your wrong for calling Troy country because the city is poor. There are farms EVERYWHERE in Alabama even Huntsville.

Wouldn't you say USA's campus is urban? I never drove through it but my daughter went to Spring Hill so I passed it up many times. I know Orange Beach isn't far which is an attraction for some kids.

This whole argument is stupid, some years your team will be up and sometimes down. Arguing about who is the third best, in a state where they will never overtake the number one and two, is like arguing over who the tallest midget is. Honestly I'm glad USA is finally doing something that they can brag about, besides beating high school teams. The problem with south and its fans is that they put the horse before the cart, and after a decent season they think they are world beaters (your fans thought you were world beaters when going undefeated against high schools). If the only thing you are worried about is beating Troy, then then you guys are very small minded. So here's the real issue and the way I see things. Until USA moves on to a better conference, wins a national championship, or does something completely out of the ordinary for the lower FBS; we are on the same level D: Yeah I said it, we are equals until proven otherwise. There will be a day when south beats Troy its inevitable, and when that day comes the only thing that will be remembered is that south won a sunbelt game and improved their conference standing by one game. One thing ppl forget is that the two big teams in Alabama won't be losing their crown anytime soon, so if your content fighting for scraps at the bottom then that's fine. We are in the same boat and both sides are far enough apart that we can reap the benefits of being FBS in Alabama. Troy has a good history and I don't consider beating USA a huge deal in our timeline, just another conference game tbh. So how about you guys focus on making yourselves some history to be proud of, instead of fighting for scraps. I love Troy, but I am also happy for USA doing well and building a great program.

(10-24-2013 10:57 PM)BMarkey Wrote:  When you drive through Troy, you don't really see the city, its downtown or the charm of its homes and buildings, nor the campus. I'd take a traditional college town campus over a city campus any day.

Just to be clear, USA is a traditional college campus, not a metropolitan college campus. It is not near downtown and has very expansive, wide open grounds. With all the new buildings and improvements that have been made, I'd wager it's one of the most, if not the most, impressive campus in the Sun Belt.And, yes, I do know other universities have been making improvements as well.

(10-25-2013 01:17 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:10 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:02 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 12:58 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  People hate the best. LOL!

Back on topic...

If I were a Trojan there would be a level of concern that USA would 'jump' Troy. USA has all the built in advantages to be better than Troy.

There may be some concern here but I believe it should be a "pride" thing only. I don't see Troy and USA competing head-to-head for a lot of recruits (some, but not all; maybe I am not looking hard enough)
Troy and USA are different institutions in different areas that service somewhat different goals.

Other schools bearing more similarity to USA, which shall not be named, should be more concerned.

I don't know. Here in Montgomery the two sides seem to give each other plenty of crap and neither side likes one another. I see both of them getting into it as time goes on because you both are south Alabama schools.

Both south Alabama schools, but 3.5 hours away from each other in completely different settings. South is coastal, Troy is agricultural.

Have you ever actually been on Troy's campus? What about Troy is agricultural besides the locals that have no thing to do with the University? I'm not even sure Troy has agriculture as a major to be honest.

Alabama Agricultural & Mechanical University is in the most advanced city in Alabama home to some of the entire countries most advanced technology. And it has farms on the campus. But long story short your wrong for calling Troy country because the city is poor. There are farms EVERYWHERE in Alabama even Huntsville.

He was talking about the setting and the culture of the area, not commenting about the universities at all.

(10-25-2013 08:35 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(10-25-2013 01:17 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:10 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:02 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  There may be some concern here but I believe it should be a "pride" thing only. I don't see Troy and USA competing head-to-head for a lot of recruits (some, but not all; maybe I am not looking hard enough)
Troy and USA are different institutions in different areas that service somewhat different goals.

Other schools bearing more similarity to USA, which shall not be named, should be more concerned.

I don't know. Here in Montgomery the two sides seem to give each other plenty of crap and neither side likes one another. I see both of them getting into it as time goes on because you both are south Alabama schools.

Both south Alabama schools, but 3.5 hours away from each other in completely different settings. South is coastal, Troy is agricultural.

Have you ever actually been on Troy's campus? What about Troy is agricultural besides the locals that have no thing to do with the University? I'm not even sure Troy has agriculture as a major to be honest.

Alabama Agricultural & Mechanical University is in the most advanced city in Alabama home to some of the entire countries most advanced technology. And it has farms on the campus. But long story short your wrong for calling Troy country because the city is poor. There are farms EVERYWHERE in Alabama even Huntsville.

He was talking about the setting and the culture of the area, not commenting about the universities at all.

That is true, I was talking about the surroundings, not the school. It's not like I said Troy is a cow college and South is marine biologist wet dream.. Silly Troy fans, can't read and comprehend very well.

(10-24-2013 02:11 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:02 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:01 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:58 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:21 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  True.

Troy can get to Ga State faster than USA

Dothan is our town. (City of about 150,000) and theirs nearly 20-30 bill boards around that town advertising "Trojan territory" or "it's T time"

Dude......Dothan, Alabama has about 65,000 people, not 150,000, and the county it's in only has 103,000.

Dothan metro has 145k

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dothan,_A...litan_area

Correct...two rural counties and Dothan, Houston County.

I figured Montgomery, which is much larger and a few miles closer would be the city of choice for Troy.

Both cities have a ton of Troy presence... And Montgomery is a little closer. But Montgomery is also close to auburn with a lot of alumni.

Dothan is MUCH more Troy friendly (large Troy campus there) a lot of the restaurants have the Troy games on tv. Troy stuff on the walls, billboards everywhere. I've always called Dothan more our home than Montgomery.

I must live in a different Dothan...

People here care about Troy about as much as anywhere else. I can think of one or two billboards and one of those is the screen downtown which changes constantly.

There isn't much Troy stuff anywhere else here either.

Btw, the population of Dothan is closer to 75,000.

Also, the "large" campus you referred to is three buildings.

(10-25-2013 05:42 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(10-25-2013 01:17 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:10 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 01:02 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  There may be some concern here but I believe it should be a "pride" thing only. I don't see Troy and USA competing head-to-head for a lot of recruits (some, but not all; maybe I am not looking hard enough)
Troy and USA are different institutions in different areas that service somewhat different goals.

Other schools bearing more similarity to USA, which shall not be named, should be more concerned.

I don't know. Here in Montgomery the two sides seem to give each other plenty of crap and neither side likes one another. I see both of them getting into it as time goes on because you both are south Alabama schools.

Both south Alabama schools, but 3.5 hours away from each other in completely different settings. South is coastal, Troy is agricultural.

Have you ever actually been on Troy's campus? What about Troy is agricultural besides the locals that have no thing to do with the University? I'm not even sure Troy has agriculture as a major to be honest.

Alabama Agricultural & Mechanical University is in the most advanced city in Alabama home to some of the entire countries most advanced technology. And it has farms on the campus. But long story short your wrong for calling Troy country because the city is poor. There are farms EVERYWHERE in Alabama even Huntsville.

Wouldn't you say USA's campus is urban? I never drove through it but my daughter went to Spring Hill so I passed it up many times. I know Orange Beach isn't far which is an attraction for some kids.

No. The only only two schools in this state I would consider urban are Alabama State and UAB. But also this depends on what your definition of urban is.