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RE: Who is going to be bowl eligible this year?
(10-13-2013 05:43 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  
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(10-13-2013 04:17 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  lol. yes, i'm very aware of that and they've been great games. but it's bound to break sometime....why not this year!

Nah...we'll wait till a few years later for that to happen. I wont delude myself into thinking that this November will be the last football game between our programs.

I really hope it's not. It's possible we could schedule some OOC games down the road but more likely, a New Orleans Bowl game between WKU an ArkSt in the future. That'd be cool.

No offense, but I do not have any interest in playing ASU regular season. I love the series and would be happy to play in a bowl but we need to be more strategic in our ooc schedule. We need to play as many P5 cellar dwellars as possible (UK, ILL, VU, etc) as well as continuing to play army and navy as much as possible (guarantee tv games). I would also like to get some MWC teams on board to get some rep out west. USU, FSU, AFA, etc.

Speaking of scheduling - stAte's AD turned down a home game in 2014 vs. an SEC team - or so he says - because a 3rd SEC team would have gone against our scheduling philosophy since we already play Mizzou at home and @ Tennessee next year.

Rumor has it that it was Vandy, with a return game in 2015.

He's still looking for a FCS opponent instead.


Not sure how I feel about that.

I'd just as soon do a home and home with WKU or North Texas as most MAC schools.

That absolutely kills me if true. Like the poster stated above, stAte should be scheduling as many of the bottom P5 teams as possible
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RE: Who is going to be bowl eligible this year?
(10-13-2013 07:13 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 05:43 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 04:38 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 04:25 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 04:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Nah...we'll wait till a few years later for that to happen. I wont delude myself into thinking that this November will be the last football game between our programs.

I really hope it's not. It's possible we could schedule some OOC games down the road but more likely, a New Orleans Bowl game between WKU an ArkSt in the future. That'd be cool.

No offense, but I do not have any interest in playing ASU regular season. I love the series and would be happy to play in a bowl but we need to be more strategic in our ooc schedule. We need to play as many P5 cellar dwellars as possible (UK, ILL, VU, etc) as well as continuing to play army and navy as much as possible (guarantee tv games). I would also like to get some MWC teams on board to get some rep out west. USU, FSU, AFA, etc.

Speaking of scheduling - stAte's AD turned down a home game in 2014 vs. an SEC team - or so he says - because a 3rd SEC team would have gone against our scheduling philosophy since we already play Mizzou at home and @ Tennessee next year.

Rumor has it that it was Vandy, with a return game in 2015.

He's still looking for a FCS opponent instead.


Not sure how I feel about that.

I'd just as soon do a home and home with WKU or North Texas as most MAC schools.

That absolutely kills me if true. Like the poster stated above, stAte should be scheduling as many of the bottom P5 teams as possible

Don't let it kill you. You will never know the whole story from a message baord. Probably a lot of details you will never know. Mohajir is doing a fantastic job. He knows what we need and frankly, with traveling to Miami and Tennessee, and a very tough Utah St team at home already, the last thing we need is a trip to Vandy. We need a FCS opponent because it will be tough to get to 2-2 ooc.
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RE: Who is going to be bowl eligible this year?
(10-14-2013 11:24 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 07:13 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 05:43 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 04:38 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 04:25 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  I really hope it's not. It's possible we could schedule some OOC games down the road but more likely, a New Orleans Bowl game between WKU an ArkSt in the future. That'd be cool.

No offense, but I do not have any interest in playing ASU regular season. I love the series and would be happy to play in a bowl but we need to be more strategic in our ooc schedule. We need to play as many P5 cellar dwellars as possible (UK, ILL, VU, etc) as well as continuing to play army and navy as much as possible (guarantee tv games). I would also like to get some MWC teams on board to get some rep out west. USU, FSU, AFA, etc.

Speaking of scheduling - stAte's AD turned down a home game in 2014 vs. an SEC team - or so he says - because a 3rd SEC team would have gone against our scheduling philosophy since we already play Mizzou at home and @ Tennessee next year.

Rumor has it that it was Vandy, with a return game in 2015.

He's still looking for a FCS opponent instead.


Not sure how I feel about that.

I'd just as soon do a home and home with WKU or North Texas as most MAC schools.

That absolutely kills me if true. Like the poster stated above, stAte should be scheduling as many of the bottom P5 teams as possible

Don't let it kill you. You will never know the whole story from a message baord. Probably a lot of details you will never know. Mohajir is doing a fantastic job. He knows what we need and frankly, with traveling to Miami and Tennessee, and a very tough Utah St team at home already, the last thing we need is a trip to Vandy. We need a FCS opponent because it will be tough to get to 2-2 ooc.

I screwed up my original post - stAte plays @ Tenn and @ Miami with Utah State at home in 2014 - MIzzou doesn't come to Jonesboro till 2015. So it wasn't 3 SEC games - I would have been 2 plus @ Miami.

Home GAME vs. Vandy in 2014. Return trip in 2015 - IF Vandy was the SEC team. With Vandy playing Temple, UMASS, ODU, and Charleston Southern at home in 2014, I'd say that is a safe assumption.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-14/sec/2...hedule.php
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RE: Who is going to be bowl eligible this year?
(10-13-2013 05:43 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 04:38 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 04:25 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 04:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 04:17 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  lol. yes, i'm very aware of that and they've been great games. but it's bound to break sometime....why not this year!

Nah...we'll wait till a few years later for that to happen. I wont delude myself into thinking that this November will be the last football game between our programs.

I really hope it's not. It's possible we could schedule some OOC games down the road but more likely, a New Orleans Bowl game between WKU an ArkSt in the future. That'd be cool.

No offense, but I do not have any interest in playing ASU regular season. I love the series and would be happy to play in a bowl but we need to be more strategic in our ooc schedule. We need to play as many P5 cellar dwellars as possible (UK, ILL, VU, etc) as well as continuing to play army and navy as much as possible (guarantee tv games). I would also like to get some MWC teams on board to get some rep out west. USU, FSU, AFA, etc.

Speaking of scheduling - stAte's AD turned down a home game in 2014 vs. an SEC team - or so he says - because a 3rd SEC team would have gone against our scheduling philosophy since we already play Mizzou at home and @ Tennessee next year.

Rumor has it that it was Vandy, with a return game in 2015.

He's still looking for a FCS opponent instead.


Not sure how I feel about that.

I'd just as soon do a home and home with WKU or North Texas as most MAC schools.

We play at Miami and host Utah State next year. Mizzou doesn't come in until 2015...when this Freshman phenom they have is a Junior.
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RE: Who is going to be bowl eligible this year?
(10-13-2013 07:13 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 05:43 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 04:38 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 04:25 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 04:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Nah...we'll wait till a few years later for that to happen. I wont delude myself into thinking that this November will be the last football game between our programs.

I really hope it's not. It's possible we could schedule some OOC games down the road but more likely, a New Orleans Bowl game between WKU an ArkSt in the future. That'd be cool.

No offense, but I do not have any interest in playing ASU regular season. I love the series and would be happy to play in a bowl but we need to be more strategic in our ooc schedule. We need to play as many P5 cellar dwellars as possible (UK, ILL, VU, etc) as well as continuing to play army and navy as much as possible (guarantee tv games). I would also like to get some MWC teams on board to get some rep out west. USU, FSU, AFA, etc.

Speaking of scheduling - stAte's AD turned down a home game in 2014 vs. an SEC team - or so he says - because a 3rd SEC team would have gone against our scheduling philosophy since we already play Mizzou at home and @ Tennessee next year.

Rumor has it that it was Vandy, with a return game in 2015.

He's still looking for a FCS opponent instead.


Not sure how I feel about that.

I'd just as soon do a home and home with WKU or North Texas as most MAC schools.

That absolutely kills me if true. Like the poster stated above, stAte should be scheduling as many of the bottom P5 teams as possible

1. Vandy already has 4 non league games scheduled. I thought I remember hearing the story that it was a Big 12 looking to come in.

2. We've got an insanely tough OOC schedule as it is next year. We already get a Senior Chuckie Keeton and Utah State, and have to travel to steadily improving Tennessee and Miami programs. Throwing in yet another P5 school, even a bottom tier one, would have left us ripe for an 0-4 OOC record. That simply could not happen
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RE: Who is going to be bowl eligible this year?
Vandy wasn't on the table. We were negotiating with a "BCS" team to come to JB next year as part of a home and home but it fell through. I am glad. We have two tough road games at Tenn. and Miami and host USU. We need an FCS opponent.
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RE: Who is going to be bowl eligible this year?
(10-14-2013 01:31 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  Vandy wasn't on the table. We were negotiating with a "BCS" team to come to JB next year as part of a home and home but it fell through. I am glad. We have two tough road games at Tenn. and Miami and host USU. We need an FCS opponent.

I heard that too earlier on - assumed it was NIU - Mohajir said that THEY decided they didn't want to play us.

But then Mohajir came on the radio either Friday or Saturday that HE didn't want to schedule this other team, and I'm pretty sure he said SEC, because it would be too much to ask of our program, and it went outside his scheduling philosophy.
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RE: Who is going to be bowl eligible this year?
I believe Vandy plays in a "BCS" conference so it makes them a "BCS" school

we signed a home and home with Vandy I believe starting in 2015

I don't care who you can get unless it's a state BCS school you never over schedule...it can kill fan support. As of now ASU is close to filling their stadium every game so you don't need it for that. A FCS school and a win is more important even if it's 5,000 to 8,000 less fans.


With that as a fan I would hate it if our AD turned down the Vandy home and home
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RE: Who is going to be bowl eligible this year?
Bowl eligible.....lets see Troy could be some how but I don't really know who we are....GSU by 7 with a comeback.....4 turnovers...I count a blocked punt as one to 1.....hard to win down 3 in turnovers and when we are driving get a couple.....so who knows.....I won't hold my breath but for everyone else....ASU, UL, and maybe WKU.....really don't know about TX State yet.....
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(10-13-2013 01:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  South Alabama - Needs 4 of 7. ULL, ULM, Ark State, and Kent State at home. Texas State, Georgia State, and Navy on the road. There is a path, but its not an easy one (the loss to Southern Utah was a bad one). Most likely path to 6 wins... over ULM and Kent at home, over Texas State and Navy on the road. Not seeing it this year. Possible but unlikely.

How is a very possible win over Georgia State not part of your "most likely path to 6 wins"?
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RE: Who is going to be bowl eligible this year?
Never turn down a P5 home game. Four loses or not, the kids you recruit will reward you for this effort.

Looks like the AD was protecting the coaches and the AD.
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(10-14-2013 06:08 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  Never turn down a P5 home game. Four loses or not, the kids you recruit will reward you for this effort.

Looks like the AD was protecting the coaches and the AD.

We have to have 6 home games per year. Had we scheduled this series we would have only had 5 home games in 2015...that wouldn't work.
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(10-14-2013 06:17 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(10-14-2013 06:08 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  Never turn down a P5 home game. Four loses or not, the kids you recruit will reward you for this effort.

Looks like the AD was protecting the coaches and the AD.

We have to have 6 home games per year. Had we scheduled this series we would have only had 5 home games in 2015...that wouldn't work.

While that is true - Mohajir said he had the opportunity a month ago,which was before the Toledo deal was signed I think.
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RE: Who is going to be bowl eligible this year?
(10-14-2013 06:56 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  
(10-14-2013 06:17 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(10-14-2013 06:08 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  Never turn down a P5 home game. Four loses or not, the kids you recruit will reward you for this effort.

Looks like the AD was protecting the coaches and the AD.

We have to have 6 home games per year. Had we scheduled this series we would have only had 5 home games in 2015...that wouldn't work.

While that is true - Mohajir said he had the opportunity a month ago,which was before the Toledo deal was signed I think.

Problem is that we desperately needed a home game for 2016...which Toledo was willing to provide. We had been in negotiation with them for a while working on dates.
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RE: Who is going to be bowl eligible this year?
(10-14-2013 06:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(10-14-2013 06:56 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  
(10-14-2013 06:17 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(10-14-2013 06:08 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  Never turn down a P5 home game. Four loses or not, the kids you recruit will reward you for this effort.

Looks like the AD was protecting the coaches and the AD.

We have to have 6 home games per year. Had we scheduled this series we would have only had 5 home games in 2015...that wouldn't work.

While that is true - Mohajir said he had the opportunity a month ago,which was before the Toledo deal was signed I think.

Problem is that we desperately needed a home game for 2016...which Toledo was willing to provide. We had been in negotiation with them for a while working on dates.

Desperately? Come on. You can get a number of teams to do home and home if you go first. I don't buy that at all.
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RE: Who is going to be bowl eligible this year?
(10-14-2013 07:04 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  
(10-14-2013 06:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(10-14-2013 06:56 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  
(10-14-2013 06:17 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(10-14-2013 06:08 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  Never turn down a P5 home game. Four loses or not, the kids you recruit will reward you for this effort.

Looks like the AD was protecting the coaches and the AD.

We have to have 6 home games per year. Had we scheduled this series we would have only had 5 home games in 2015...that wouldn't work.

While that is true - Mohajir said he had the opportunity a month ago,which was before the Toledo deal was signed I think.

Problem is that we desperately needed a home game for 2016...which Toledo was willing to provide. We had been in negotiation with them for a while working on dates.

Desperately? Come on. You can get a number of teams to do home and home if you go first. I don't buy that at all.

Yes, but was the AQ school in question willing to give a home and home for 2015-2016, That was the real question. If that AQ only had available dates for 2014 and 2015, I could see why we eventually turned them down.

We know that Mohajir had been considering this for months...so my guess is we tried everything possible to make it work.
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RE: Who is going to be bowl eligible this year?
Losing to a P5 school is not as good as win over anyone else. We have a tough OCC schedule next year. We need to schedule for a win now.
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