bitcruncher Wrote:You might as well say that Georgia's Governor is going to make UGA play Georgia Southern every year if they move up to Division 1A. Get serious folks.

Your point is? If WVU is the superior team then they will handle Marshall regardless. I'm just saying there shouldn't be any complaining from the WVU camp about having to play Marshall, if the mountaineers are better than they will win regardless. To me its just another game on the schedule, Marshall looks like a better opponent then some of the teams you are playing OOC. I'd much rather see marshall on my schedule than Eastern Washington. I gave my opinion on why I think the series is good, but its signed and sealed so game on.

As a outside observer who has family and friends from both universities, this is a rivalry.....and a BIG one.

I have no problem with either school and in fact have tremendous respect for both.

The fact that this game has been played only 5 times is down right unforntunate. It will be tremendous for both schools. It will be a big day in the state of WV. WVU fans saying that this game is not big is just not true. There has been more discussion about this upcoming game than this seasons Pitt game. The fact that a WVU student was spying on a Marshall practice only adds a little fuel. I do not remember a student being caught at Pitt???

These are the only 2 D-1 teams in the state. Everyone just needs to enjoy it. It will be good for everyone.

Jackson1011 Wrote:

Quote:WVU vs Marshall series is a no-brainer.

Guarantees an annual ESPN Game for both teams.

-- Don't be so sure.....the game next fall is not scheduled to be televised out of state....and the last game between the two schools which had a host of future NFL players was also not televised by an TV station outside the state of WV


Jackson

Duh...that was in 1997...Marshall's first year in Div I-A Football (again) and before all of their MAC Titles and Bowl Victories.

Landscape has changed slightly since 1997...especially for Marshall.

Sorry you don't understand the difference in this series from 1997 (First year back in I-A Football for Marshall)...before Marshall's 5 MAC Championships...and before Marshall ever played in ANY Bowl Game. (FYI...since 1997, Marshall has played in 7 Bowl Games in that short span of time).

Next time...spend $200....buy a vowel...and get a clue!

KL

Quote:There has been more discussion about this upcoming game than this seasons Pitt game.

The fact that it's the season opener might have something to do with that. When we opened with Wisconsin, we talked a lot more about Wisconsin than we did Pitt. When we opened with ECU in the hyped up 04 season, there was more talk about ECU than Pitt.

The series will get a lot of in-state attention since we have just renewed the game, but don't expect this 'hype' in any of the following years.

Quote:The fact that a WVU student was spying on a Marshall practice only adds a little fuel. I do not remember a student being caught at Pitt???

Keyword is 'caught' there.

Quote:Next time...spend $200....buy a vowel...and get a clue!

I don't really see a need for the insulting zingers to end your posts... anyways, this game is not currently scheduled by ESPN despite WVU being preseason top 10. It's early, but I've heard no indication that ESPN has any desire to air this game.

I would certainly prefer it be national, but this is by no means a 'guaranteed ESPN appearance every year.'

How exactly do you define a rivalry anyway? It's an in-state game, so from that angle it's a rivalry. It's not a historical game, so from that angle it's not a rivalry. Despite the delusions of Herd fans, they are not our equal, so it's not a rivalry from that perspective. From the hate perspective, they certainly envy us, I'll admit, and they've left a very sour taste in my mouth ever since Luther has been calling us out for the past decade. Call it whatever you want, I'm going to enjoy handing them their collective rears on September 2nd.

KnightLight Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:

Quote:WVU vs Marshall series is a no-brainer.

Guarantees an annual ESPN Game for both teams.

-- Don't be so sure.....the game next fall is not scheduled to be televised out of state....and the last game between the two schools which had a host of future NFL players was also not televised by an TV station outside the state of WV


Jackson

Duh...that was in 1997...Marshall's first year in Div I-A Football (again) and before all of their MAC Titles and Bowl Victories.

Landscape has changed slightly since 1997...especially for Marshall.

Sorry you don't understand the difference in this series from 1997 (First year back in I-A Football for Marshall)...before Marshall's 5 MAC Championships...and before Marshall ever played in ANY Bowl Game. (FYI...since 1997, Marshall has played in 7 Bowl Games in that short span of time).

Next time...spend $200....buy a vowel...and get a clue!

KL

Marshall went to 7 bowl games since they moved up to Division 1A. That is true. But the truth is that Marshall went from dominating Division 1-AA to dominating the MAC. There wasn't that much difference between the 2 at the time. Marshall would have dominated the MAC while they were dominating Division 1-AA. Marshall doesn't have quite the talent level they had then. There are no Pennington's or Leftwich's leading the Herd down the field. Their linemen are about equal, but the skill positions are downgrades from their glory years.

KL, when discussing how that $200 is spent try spending it on yourself for lessons on semantics and logic.

I have no objection to the Herd playing WVU, but I don't think that the Governor should have gotten involved in the matter. It's a decision between the Athletic Depts. of WVU and Marshall, and not a political decision. And when politicians start getting involved with anything it's only a matter of time before it's so screwed up that God himself couldn't fix it.

kardphan Wrote:I'd much rather see marshall on my schedule than Eastern Washington.

Eastern Washingtom had a better RPI than moou last season.

WVU82 Wrote:

kardphan Wrote:I'd much rather see marshall on my schedule than Eastern Washington.

Eastern Washingtom had a better RPI than moou last season.

My point exactly. So true.

One thing about Pastilong that I do like is that he at least gets good 1-AAs. I know the help in the computers is minimal from it, but Eastern Washington and James Madison and Wofford are at least top notch 1-AAs.

KnightLight Wrote:Next time...spend $200....buy a vowel...and get a clue!

lmfao That's the worst smack I have ever read on this board - and there has been some bad smack. Very bad.

but this is priceless!!! lmfao

wvucrazed Wrote:

KnightLight Wrote:Next time...spend $200....buy a vowel...and get a clue!

lmfao That's the worst smack I have ever read on this board - and there has been some bad smack. Very bad.

but this is priceless!!! lmfao

Ignorance can be educated away, but stupid is forever.

KnightLight Wrote:Landscape has changed slightly since 1997...especially for Marshall.

This is even crazier....

WVU82 Wrote:

KnightLight Wrote:Landscape has changed slightly since 1997...especially for Marshall.

This is even crazier....

Try and think...try and think WVU82....you can do it!

Think...before I-A Conference Championships...and after.

Think...before playing in 7 Bowl Games (winning 5) and after.

There, there...you can do it!!

KnightLight Wrote:Try and think...try and think WVU82....you can do it!

Think...before I-A Conference Championships...and after.

Think...before playing in 7 Bowl Games (winning 5) and after.

There, there...you can do it!!

it's still moou, that's what you don't understand...

I just think it's funny that these experts who think the series is a good thing apparently know more than the WVU administration.

According to these folks, Eddie Pastilong must be the worst AD in America. After all - - - here is is sitting on this apparently extraordinarily positive game, that is good for all parties AND the state - - - but he stubbornly refused to schedule the series.

Hmm..... wait a minute. Could it be that the series ISN'T good for WVU, and that's why WVU had to be forced into it?


Nah. That can't be right. The internet experts have spoken. Let's play ball!

WVU82 Wrote:

KnightLight Wrote:Try and think...try and think WVU82....you can do it!

Think...before I-A Conference Championships...and after.

Think...before playing in 7 Bowl Games (winning 5) and after.

There, there...you can do it!!

it's still moou, that's what you don't understand...

Is that the same "moou" that has beaten WVU's ranked Basketball Team the last 2 years?

I get all the "moous" mixed up.

KL

Quote:Duh...that was in 1997...Marshall's first year in Div I-A Football (again) and before all of their MAC Titles and Bowl Victories.

Landscape has changed slightly since 1997...especially for Marshall.

Sorry you don't understand the difference in this series from 1997 (First year back in I-A Football for Marshall)...before Marshall's 5 MAC Championships...and before Marshall ever played in ANY Bowl Game. (FYI...since 1997, Marshall has played in 7 Bowl Games in that short span of time).

Next time...spend $200....buy a vowel...and get a clue!

-- I didn't realize that MAC titles added to one's value in football ;-) ....anyway...the cold truth is Marshall was much more attractive in 1997 then it is today because of Randy Moss....in '97 MU had perhaps the best player in the country on their roster...and not only was he the best player he was brash, agressive and perfect for TV....MU today is nothing more then no name players playing for a program that has had a hard time getting to .500 the last few yrs

-- However...if you choose to disagree with me on that...its fine...but let me make this clear again KnightLight since reading is not your strongest quality....The WVU / Marshall game is not scheduled to be on any kind of national or regional coverage this yr .....In other words ESPN sees that Rutgers/Uconn game has having more football value then MU/WVU.....RU/Uconn is already signed, sealed and delivered for national TV


Jackson

KnightLight Wrote:

WVU82 Wrote:

KnightLight Wrote:Try and think...try and think WVU82....you can do it!

Think...before I-A Conference Championships...and after.

Think...before playing in 7 Bowl Games (winning 5) and after.

There, there...you can do it!!

it's still moou, that's what you don't understand...

Is that the same "moou" that has beaten WVU's ranked Basketball Team the last 2 years?

I get all the "moous" mixed up.

KL

I still have yet to figure out what basketball has to do with football. If you could enlighten me I'd appreciate it.

KnightLight Wrote:Is that the same "moou" that has beaten WVU's ranked Basketball Team the last 2 years?

Yes WVU owns a 24-10 series bball lead and lost the past two seasons to moou. Alas, WVU went to the Final-8 & Sweet-16 the past two seasons also. So yeah, chalk up a moou loss every year for a Sweet-16 trip for me.

I think that it's a real shame that SOME of the students and fans of WVU don't take this game seriously.

But honestly it's kind of funny when they don't take any type of in state rivalry seriously and they get their butts handed to them. (i.e. 2006 Toyota Capital Classic between WVU & MU in basketball) Clearly WVU was the better program last season but simply didn't take the game seriously and was dealt a hard loss to swallow.

If the WVU football program is so much stronger than Marshall's why are their still critics complaining that the game is being played instead of letting things be settled on the field?

When making an apples to apples comparison there is really every reason in the world why the two teams should be playing:

-The strength of schedules are comparible this year (for instance check out Marshall's OOC schedule)
-The two schools are the only Div. 1-A schools in the state.
-Marshall has realized tremendous success after making the jump to Div. 1-A. (1 good season is luck but 8-10 good seasons is a strong program)
-Both programs have had a number of seasons over the .500 mark for the last several years.
-Both programs love to hate each other....if you don't think so check out Pat Forde's quote from ESPN.com "you have a hard time getting the senior class to talk about anything other than wvu's opening opponent: hated in state rival Marshall"


That's the thing about it:
-an ESPN writer sees the game as important
-Marshall players and fans see the game as important
-WVU players see the game as important
-the Governor sees the game as important

it's time for wvu's fans to wake up to the fact that it is in fact an important game. [/i]

Quote:Clearly WVU was the better program last season but simply didn't take the game seriously and was dealt a hard loss to swallow.

Yeah buddy, that Marshall loss sure was detrimental to our Sweet Sixteen campaign. ;-)

Quote:it's time for wvu's fans to wake up to the fact that it is in fact an important game.

Every game is important when you are shooting for an unbeaten season.

But please, don't insult WVU by comparing them to some midget league team that's been 1-A for 10 years and can't sell out a 38k seat stadium to save their lives.