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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
(10-06-2013 12:49 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote: (10-06-2013 12:45 PM)Big Dee Wrote: (10-06-2013 11:48 AM)stc Wrote: (10-06-2013 05:29 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote: (10-05-2013 10:31 PM)stc Wrote: I love how because our football team isn't good our AD needs to be fired. The health of our athletic department is actually pretty good. Face it, UAB may be the toughest D1 football job in the country.
Really? Attendance in the major sports is terrible. We haven't been to a bowl since 2004 or won an NCAA tournament game since 2005. The perception of UAB athletics is at an all-time low.
But other than that things are great I guess.
Your reply shows everything that's wrong with our fan base. Our athletic department is barely 30 years old yet has won CUSA softball, basketball, & baseball titles in the past three years. Our men's soccer program is one of the best in the country. UAB volleyball has multiple NCAA tournament bids in the last five years. Womens basketball has had three straight winning seasons. Our golf team has played in the national title round multiple times as well. Under Mackins watch we've improved Bartow Arena, built a softball stadium, updated football facilities, added sports (sand volleyball & bowling) & got our baseball team set up to use Regions Park. Your right that basketball has been down (even though we did win a conference title two years ago) but those problems were from a coach Mackin didn't hire. The one he has hired appears to be a steal. While McGee is still building you tell me who would have been a better hire? McGee was the top assistant for a team that played in a BCS bowl game. He was up for the top assistant award in college football. Please try and analyze the entire situation before making a quick response post to a football loss.
I don't think Mackin needs to go, but Green has a point. The best hire has been Haase because his sport has a tradition and his effort. Compare the two Hasse: North Carolina,Roy Williams, USA under 18 teamer, and lowly assistant. McGee: Arkansas, Petrino, former QB. McGee or Johnson was never the top recruiters at Arkansas. Heck McGee has done a whole 360 since his first press conference.
Yep, the ole' "we have everything we need to compete for CUSA titles NOW", and the "we can win a CUSA title with homegrown talent". I think he really meant it too. I haven't given up on McGee, but I feel much better about the Haase hire.
Remember when he first got here he talked about his assistant coaches having NFL experience then a good number left. Now he's hired guys he could trust something I feel XCNC would've done. Ricky Williams is coaching HS football somewhere think RB's wouldn't love to call Ricky coach?
Finally the dust has settle at WR, the reasons I think this offense is inconsistent is QB/WR play. At WR we don't have many big play guys just a solid group of guys. Since McGee got hired on the WR position has explained everything McGee. Why was Sigler canned, and six names can explain why we are where we are.
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
It is the little things not happening on the field that make you wonder WTF.
It is one thing for McGee to eat a little bit of humble pie. It is another for him not to learn from it.
I haven't seen a single thing that made me question Mackin's ability as our AD.
It doesn't take a lot of spunk to follow a program that everyone else follows.
However, I don't think it should take a lot of spunk to follow your alma mater either, in good times or bad.
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
^^^
Agree.
Rice went from 1961 to 2006 without playing in a bowl game. We should have the patience to let the coach try to get us to previously unreachable heights. If he's not the one, rinse and repeat.
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
(10-06-2013 01:21 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: (10-06-2013 01:13 PM)UAB?IAB Wrote: (10-06-2013 01:04 PM)Uncle BLAZER Wrote: Where does he? People only have a problem with him saying that stuff because he has done 0.00 to back it up. He could have kept his mouth shut, Said "ill do my best", or thrown out a "roll tide". Oh wait....
I wonder if players have outside sources in their ears giving them poor advice and bad mouthing their coach.
That happens a lot when you recruit locally.
Usually by people who aren't very bright.
UAB will provide you with an opportunity to pursue a top shelf education, which you'll carry with you long after you're done with football, and if you're good enough for the NFL, they'll find you wherever you play.
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
Precisely. I think it's cool that we are recruiting kids that want to be neurosurgeons. They were talking about this last night during Ohio St/Northwestern. The Northwestern coach tells his recruits, "What will you be doing when you're double your current age? It won't be football."
My education from the [recently renamed] Collat School of Business is invaluable and I wouldn't trade any number of wins for it. LEARNING CAN TAKE YOU ANYWHERE!
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10-06-2013 01:33 PM |
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
Even in a commercial for years after you are gone.
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
(10-06-2013 01:14 PM)Big Dee Wrote: (10-06-2013 12:49 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote: (10-06-2013 12:45 PM)Big Dee Wrote: (10-06-2013 11:48 AM)stc Wrote: (10-06-2013 05:29 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote: Really? Attendance in the major sports is terrible. We haven't been to a bowl since 2004 or won an NCAA tournament game since 2005. The perception of UAB athletics is at an all-time low.
But other than that things are great I guess.
Your reply shows everything that's wrong with our fan base. Our athletic department is barely 30 years old yet has won CUSA softball, basketball, & baseball titles in the past three years. Our men's soccer program is one of the best in the country. UAB volleyball has multiple NCAA tournament bids in the last five years. Womens basketball has had three straight winning seasons. Our golf team has played in the national title round multiple times as well. Under Mackins watch we've improved Bartow Arena, built a softball stadium, updated football facilities, added sports (sand volleyball & bowling) & got our baseball team set up to use Regions Park. Your right that basketball has been down (even though we did win a conference title two years ago) but those problems were from a coach Mackin didn't hire. The one he has hired appears to be a steal. While McGee is still building you tell me who would have been a better hire? McGee was the top assistant for a team that played in a BCS bowl game. He was up for the top assistant award in college football. Please try and analyze the entire situation before making a quick response post to a football loss.
I don't think Mackin needs to go, but Green has a point. The best hire has been Haase because his sport has a tradition and his effort. Compare the two Hasse: North Carolina,Roy Williams, USA under 18 teamer, and lowly assistant. McGee: Arkansas, Petrino, former QB. McGee or Johnson was never the top recruiters at Arkansas. Heck McGee has done a whole 360 since his first press conference.
Yep, the ole' "we have everything we need to compete for CUSA titles NOW", and the "we can win a CUSA title with homegrown talent". I think he really meant it too. I haven't given up on McGee, but I feel much better about the Haase hire.
Remember when he first got here he talked about his assistant coaches having NFL experience then a good number left. Now he's hired guys he could trust something I feel XCNC would've done. Ricky Williams is coaching HS football somewhere think RB's wouldn't love to call Ricky coach?
Finally the dust has settle at WR, the reasons I think this offense is inconsistent is QB/WR play. At WR we don't have many big play guys just a solid group of guys. Since McGee got hired on the WR position has explained everything McGee. Why was Sigler canned, and six names can explain why we are where we are.
Are you suggesting we hire Ricky Williams as a coach?
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
(10-05-2013 08:45 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote: I'm not a fan of firing coaches in the middle of the season, and I'm not even suggesting that McGee needs to be fired immediately after the last game. But serious changes need to be made, publicly, if Mackin wants to maintain any real credibility
This. I'd gotten an unexpected call from someone representing the Blazers' athletic department and marketing about whether or not I was considering renewing my Blazer Boosters membership. I am wrong to assume that this only occurs when such a thing takes place in disturbing numbers? I did tell him for what it's worth, that I'd renewed my season tickets for football and men's basketball.
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
(10-06-2013 02:41 PM)blazers9911 Wrote: (10-06-2013 01:14 PM)Big Dee Wrote: (10-06-2013 12:49 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote: (10-06-2013 12:45 PM)Big Dee Wrote: (10-06-2013 11:48 AM)stc Wrote: Your reply shows everything that's wrong with our fan base. Our athletic department is barely 30 years old yet has won CUSA softball, basketball, & baseball titles in the past three years. Our men's soccer program is one of the best in the country. UAB volleyball has multiple NCAA tournament bids in the last five years. Womens basketball has had three straight winning seasons. Our golf team has played in the national title round multiple times as well. Under Mackins watch we've improved Bartow Arena, built a softball stadium, updated football facilities, added sports (sand volleyball & bowling) & got our baseball team set up to use Regions Park. Your right that basketball has been down (even though we did win a conference title two years ago) but those problems were from a coach Mackin didn't hire. The one he has hired appears to be a steal. While McGee is still building you tell me who would have been a better hire? McGee was the top assistant for a team that played in a BCS bowl game. He was up for the top assistant award in college football. Please try and analyze the entire situation before making a quick response post to a football loss.
I don't think Mackin needs to go, but Green has a point. The best hire has been Haase because his sport has a tradition and his effort. Compare the two Hasse: North Carolina,Roy Williams, USA under 18 teamer, and lowly assistant. McGee: Arkansas, Petrino, former QB. McGee or Johnson was never the top recruiters at Arkansas. Heck McGee has done a whole 360 since his first press conference.
Yep, the ole' "we have everything we need to compete for CUSA titles NOW", and the "we can win a CUSA title with homegrown talent". I think he really meant it too. I haven't given up on McGee, but I feel much better about the Haase hire.
Remember when he first got here he talked about his assistant coaches having NFL experience then a good number left. Now he's hired guys he could trust something I feel XCNC would've done. Ricky Williams is coaching HS football somewhere think RB's wouldn't love to call Ricky coach?
Finally the dust has settle at WR, the reasons I think this offense is inconsistent is QB/WR play. At WR we don't have many big play guys just a solid group of guys. Since McGee got hired on the WR position has explained everything McGee. Why was Sigler canned, and six names can explain why we are where we are.
Are you suggesting we hire Ricky Williams as a coach?
No, looking at McGee's first year assistant coaches compared to this year's. I don't think his safety blanket has helped in coaching our RB's. I haven't seen any improvement out of Reaves, I think a better coach at that spot would help with the talent we have there. I guess McGee got burned by Brohm and Helton so he went the safe route and hired a friend the Callaway approach. Ricky would be one heck on a RB one would think don't know about recruiting though.
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
(10-06-2013 03:05 PM)Big Dee Wrote: (10-06-2013 02:41 PM)blazers9911 Wrote: (10-06-2013 01:14 PM)Big Dee Wrote: (10-06-2013 12:49 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote: (10-06-2013 12:45 PM)Big Dee Wrote: I don't think Mackin needs to go, but Green has a point. The best hire has been Haase because his sport has a tradition and his effort. Compare the two Hasse: North Carolina,Roy Williams, USA under 18 teamer, and lowly assistant. McGee: Arkansas, Petrino, former QB. McGee or Johnson was never the top recruiters at Arkansas. Heck McGee has done a whole 360 since his first press conference.
Yep, the ole' "we have everything we need to compete for CUSA titles NOW", and the "we can win a CUSA title with homegrown talent". I think he really meant it too. I haven't given up on McGee, but I feel much better about the Haase hire.
Remember when he first got here he talked about his assistant coaches having NFL experience then a good number left. Now he's hired guys he could trust something I feel XCNC would've done. Ricky Williams is coaching HS football somewhere think RB's wouldn't love to call Ricky coach?
Finally the dust has settle at WR, the reasons I think this offense is inconsistent is QB/WR play. At WR we don't have many big play guys just a solid group of guys. Since McGee got hired on the WR position has explained everything McGee. Why was Sigler canned, and six names can explain why we are where we are.
Are you suggesting we hire Ricky Williams as a coach?
No, looking at McGee's first year assistant coaches compared to this year's. I don't think his safety blanket has helped in coaching our RB's. I haven't seen any improvement out of Reaves, I think a better coach at that spot would help with the talent we have there. I guess McGee got burned by Brohm and Helton so he went the safe route and hired a friend the Callaway approach. Ricky would be one heck on a RB one would think don't know about recruiting though.
Yes that is exactly what you were inferring. The rest is just to funny to respond to.
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10-06-2013 04:14 PM |
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
(10-06-2013 11:59 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote: (10-06-2013 10:46 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: (10-06-2013 10:43 AM)blazers9911 Wrote: (10-06-2013 10:38 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote: (10-06-2013 10:30 AM)blazers9911 Wrote: You didn't answer my question.
UAB has the same things in place that the Losing-est Coach in History had available. Actually, the campus that McGee recruits to is vastly superior to the one Watson showed to prospects: new weight room, new academic center, new rec center, new cafeteria, new dorms and classrooms. Somehow Brown was able to eek out a few winning seasons, big wins, and draft picks. I have a freshman at UAB so I know exactly how much the campus has changed. It was a DUMP in 2000 compared to how it is now.
These things are nice, but I was talking more along the lines of what did McGee have to work with on the field? Clearly, our defense was nowhere near respectable when he took over. I don't know how you fix that overnight like you want.
You don't. And a new coach or athletic director doesn't fix it. A new OCS doesn't fix it. As I said in another thread, the infrastructure is in place for UAB to be a bad team. I don't see it changing.
You are right. A new coach or athletic director won't fix it. But I disagree and I believe that a new OCS "will" fix it. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Mackin and McGee sold every seat in a new stadium within three months after approval. That, in itself, is also exactly why the BOT is so terrified of. Can you imagine how much deeper UAB could go, as far as recruiting goes?
It's a damn good start in the right direction. The more they continue to lose, the further eroded the already dwindling and disenchanted fan base will be. But that new stadium would go a long way to re-energizing it and selling tickets. I was ready to commit to 3-5 years on season tickets had the proposal been approved, as it (bleeping) well should have been. Yeah, I know, "preaching to the choir"...
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
(10-06-2013 04:14 PM)UAB?IAB Wrote: (10-06-2013 03:05 PM)Big Dee Wrote: (10-06-2013 02:41 PM)blazers9911 Wrote: (10-06-2013 01:14 PM)Big Dee Wrote: (10-06-2013 12:49 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote: Yep, the ole' "we have everything we need to compete for CUSA titles NOW", and the "we can win a CUSA title with homegrown talent". I think he really meant it too. I haven't given up on McGee, but I feel much better about the Haase hire.
Remember when he first got here he talked about his assistant coaches having NFL experience then a good number left. Now he's hired guys he could trust something I feel XCNC would've done. Ricky Williams is coaching HS football somewhere think RB's wouldn't love to call Ricky coach?
Finally the dust has settle at WR, the reasons I think this offense is inconsistent is QB/WR play. At WR we don't have many big play guys just a solid group of guys. Since McGee got hired on the WR position has explained everything McGee. Why was Sigler canned, and six names can explain why we are where we are.
Are you suggesting we hire Ricky Williams as a coach?
No, looking at McGee's first year assistant coaches compared to this year's. I don't think his safety blanket has helped in coaching our RB's. I haven't seen any improvement out of Reaves, I think a better coach at that spot would help with the talent we have there. I guess McGee got burned by Brohm and Helton so he went the safe route and hired a friend the Callaway approach. Ricky would be one heck on a RB one would think don't know about recruiting though.
Yes that is exactly what you were inferring. The rest is just to funny to respond to.
I sure was.
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
(10-05-2013 08:34 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote: The next Head Football Coach needs to be hired by a new Athletics Director. Mackin has had some minor successes but we desperately need new leadership. I think he loves UAB but is simply in over his head.
He can't play defense.
He made two out of the park hires in the same season. We're fine. Our defense is **** but we made a change midseason. That shows someone cares.
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
(10-07-2013 08:36 AM)thebernreuter Wrote: (10-05-2013 08:34 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote: The next Head Football Coach needs to be hired by a new Athletics Director. Mackin has had some minor successes but we desperately need new leadership. I think he loves UAB but is simply in over his head.
He can't play defense.
He made two out of the park hires in the same season. We're fine. Our defense is **** but we made a change midseason. That shows someone cares.
I agree, it's a step in the right direction. Maybe a signal that it's not business-as-usual on the Southside anymore?
I'll hold off on the "out of the park" praise at least until one of those hires produces a winning season.
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10-07-2013 08:42 AM |
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
Posts #16 & #17 are rock solid and absolutely true.
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
(10-07-2013 08:42 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote: (10-07-2013 08:36 AM)thebernreuter Wrote: (10-05-2013 08:34 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote: The next Head Football Coach needs to be hired by a new Athletics Director. Mackin has had some minor successes but we desperately need new leadership. I think he loves UAB but is simply in over his head.
He can't play defense.
He made two out of the park hires in the same season. We're fine. Our defense is **** but we made a change midseason. That shows someone cares.
I agree, it's a step in the right direction. Maybe a signal that it's not business-as-usual on the Southside anymore?
I'll hold off on the "out of the park" praise at least until one of those hires produces a winning season.
It's hard to be down on Haase at this point. The only thing we can complain about with him is a 16-17 record with a thin bench and absolutely no size down low. Everything he has done off the court has been successful to this point, and he appears to have filled our needs in the offseason. Now, if we go 16-17 again with what he has done in the past year and a half, then we would have a reason to complain.
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RE: Mackin Needs To Go
I, for one, think Mackin has done a tremendous job within the constraints he's been placed under administratively (BOT) and financially. Yes, while soccer, volleyball, softball, etc. are "minor" sports, they have all seen vast improvement in performance and facilities the past few years. We could do better; but I'm pleased with their progress. In a few months, we'll see how good his women's basketball coach hire was. I think Haase was a great hire for the men's team.
I am not pleased with McGee's performance so far, but when he was named head coach, I don't recall many people complaining about his pedigree. In fact, on paper, he seemed like a great fit, and most, if not all, of the people on this board were excited about it. Hell, we even thought we were going to lose him as a head coach back to Arkansas before he even coached a game. The same cannot be said about the hiring of Callaway, which was done, if you will recall, when we didn't even have an AD at the time. That was a debacle and disaster from the start.
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